[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Decockers (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/23/2016 12:15:31 AM EDT
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Yeah, I know how they work. I've taken them apart and understand them.
But I don't give a shit, I still cringe a little when I flip the lever... and when doing so inside I purposely pick out a good place where it won't damage anything/anyone should something not work as designed. Call me paranoid, IDGAF. Am I alone here? |
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone.
Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. |
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I've never had a reason to distrust em. Carried a sig 226 on duty for a while and still carry an FNX off duty.
I can't knock ya for pointing it in a safe direction while decocking it though. I've even know people to fill up a 5 gallon bucket of sand and that's what they aim at when they decock/unload their carry guns. |
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Quoted: Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. |
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. ^^ what he said. |
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. Bet you point loaded guns at a lot of things you don't want to shoot, even when simply walking around. I mean, I don't want to shoot a hole in my carpet or flooring... surely not the air handler in my crawlspace, nor my plumbing... ultimately kind of unavoidable when simply walking with a holstered gun. When decocking, I find a suitable backstop. |
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. ^^ what he said. What they said. |
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Bet you point loaded guns at a lot of things you don't want to shoot, even when simply walking around. I mean, I don't want to shoot a hole in my carpet or flooring... surely not the air handler in my crawlspace, nor my plumbing... ultimately kind of unavoidable when simply walking with a holstered gun. When decocking, I find a suitable backstop. Quoted:
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. Bet you point loaded guns at a lot of things you don't want to shoot, even when simply walking around. I mean, I don't want to shoot a hole in my carpet or flooring... surely not the air handler in my crawlspace, nor my plumbing... ultimately kind of unavoidable when simply walking with a holstered gun. When decocking, I find a suitable backstop. You know what I mean. Or you don't. Whichever. |
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Not me.
First pistol I bought over 20 years ago was a Sig and ever since, a decocker is the only safety I want on a pistol, which is why most of my pistols are Sigs. Their decockers work really nicely and are less abrupt than many. Full confidence in them. Of course, I always keep a loaded pistol pointed in a safe direction regardless. |
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Considering the only time I use a decocker is when I'm not intentionally trying to shoot the gun, no you are not alone. Point in a safe direction (floor at home, down range when out shooting), hit the lever. I don't know if it's so much a "I don't trust the decocker to not do its job" thing as it is a "don't fucking point guns at things you don't want to shoot" thing for me. Bet you point loaded guns at a lot of things you don't want to shoot, even when simply walking around. I mean, I don't want to shoot a hole in my carpet or flooring... surely not the air handler in my crawlspace, nor my plumbing... ultimately kind of unavoidable when simply walking with a holstered gun. When decocking, I find a suitable backstop. You know what I mean. Or you don't. Whichever. When in a typical residence, every direction has something you typically don't want to shoot, more so for condo/apartment/townhome dwellers where there really is no such thing as a truly "safe direction." Point I'm trying to convey is that when decocking you are at more of a risk for a discharge and additional vigilance is warranted, at least in my mind. |
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Yeah, I know how they work. I've taken them apart and understand them. But I don't give a shit, I still cringe a little when I flip the lever... and when doing so inside I purposely pick out a good place where it won't damage anything/anyone should something not work as designed. Call me paranoid, IDGAF. Am I alone here? Decocking what? They all work differently. |
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I use the decocker, but I still ride the hammer. Manually deckocking a handgun is a good way to put a hole in something eventually. Quoted:
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I usually ride the hammer down. On a handgun with a decocker? I use the decocker, but I still ride the hammer. Manually deckocking a handgun is a good way to put a hole in something eventually. Gotcha, I thought you meant you were foregoing the decocker. |
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I've never had a reason to distrust em. Carried a sig 226 on duty for a while and still carry an FNX off duty. I can't knock ya for pointing it in a safe direction while decocking it though. I've even know people to fill up a 5 gallon bucket of sand and that's what they aim at when they decock/unload their carry guns. I had a 226 & 220 for a long time and always used the decocker. no issues. My dad carried one for years for Texas DPS before they moved to the Sig in .357 sig. Cannot remember the model off the top of my head. Only handgun I would keep cocked and locked would be a 1911. For Double/Single if a decocker personally I use the decocker if there is no safety. If safety then what every you want to do. |
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I've never had a reason to distrust em. Carried a sig 226 on duty for a while and still carry an FNX off duty. I can't knock ya for pointing it in a safe direction while decocking it though. I've even know people to fill up a 5 gallon bucket of sand and that's what they aim at when they decock/unload their carry guns. I use a smaller bucket that is 6" deep with sand. "Know your target and beyond" and all that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| The only decocker I don't trust is my CZ-52 because it's a flawed design and I deleted the firing pin block. All of my other decocker guns immobilize the firing pin. Thumbing the hammer is the only option on my 80's vintage PT-92. Never have a problem doing it at the range, but I would really hate to do it in the house. |
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Quoted: What? A USP? There is an international stop that prevents the hammer from ever touching the firing pin, then there is a firing pin stop. So 2 safeties would have to fail simultaneously Quoted: Quoted: Sigs decock pretty slow, but the HKs make me nervous What? A USP? There is an international stop that prevents the hammer from ever touching the firing pin, then there is a firing pin stop. So 2 safeties would have to fail simultaneously |
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The 92SB I had made me nervous when you decocked it, my Sig's don't at all. Is it the same as an FS where the entire back section of the firing pin rotates out of the way? Plus it has a firing pin block. Seriously, do people not even bother to see how what they buy functions? |
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I never thought to not trust a decocker.
Back when I carried a P2000 I always remember thinking that it was a bit fucky that the decocker had a lighter, crisper break than the damn trigger! The time I ND'd a CZ 75 while manually decocking was the very last time I touched a TDA without a decocker. Last time I touched a CZ too. If they don't see the problem with an inverted slide rail that gets oil all over your fingers, and a hammer that has to be manually lowered.... |
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What? A USP? There is an international stop that prevents the hammer from ever touching the firing pin, then there is a firing pin stop. So 2 safeties would have to fail simultaneously Quoted:
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Sigs decock pretty slow, but the HKs make me nervous What? A USP? There is an international stop that prevents the hammer from ever touching the firing pin, then there is a firing pin stop. So 2 safeties would have to fail simultaneously My P30 snaps like a mouse trap. A little unnerving at first, but you get used to it. |
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No matter how often I watch the mechanisms work on an empty chamber, unless I'm at the range, it's one of those times where you know the hammer is dropping, and nothing will happen, but you still think it might.
Only decocker I own is a Ruger P95 I picked up cheap. Shoots great, makes an awesome truck pistol on road trips, and a great gun to stash in the bathroom. |
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I don't like decockers, but this isn't about that.
I was in the Army during the changeover from the 1911 to the M9. One night, going on duty I watched an MPI guy load his M9 for the first time for carry on duty. He loaded a mag, racked the slide and put on the safety. When the hammer fell it scared him so badly he dropped the gun. Hilarious. |
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My P30 snaps like a mouse trap. A little unnerving at first, but you get used to it. Quoted:
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Sigs decock pretty slow, but the HKs make me nervous What? A USP? There is an international stop that prevents the hammer from ever touching the firing pin, then there is a firing pin stop. So 2 safeties would have to fail simultaneously My P30 snaps like a mouse trap. A little unnerving at first, but you get used to it. I'm not too familiar with the P30 but I'd put money on there being an internal hammer stop as well. Easy enough to find out. Does the hammer stop short of the firing pin when decocking? |
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No matter how often I watch the mechanisms work on an empty chamber, unless I'm at the range, it's one of those times where you know the hammer is dropping, and nothing will happen, but you still think it might. It's kind of like a roller coaster. I know how every piece of it works and was put together - from the lift motor to the PLC to the bolts holding the track together to the piers in the ground supporting the whole damn thing. Still, when I'm at the top of the lift hill, I feel like I'm going to die a little 
Same thing when I hear the "CLICK" of the decocker... let's see here.. no powder smell, no ears ringing... whew. |
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Quoted: No matter how often I watch the mechanisms work on an empty chamber, unless I'm at the range, it's one of those times where you know the hammer is dropping, and nothing will happen, but you still think it might. Only decocker I own is a Ruger P95 I picked up cheap. Shoots great, makes an awesome truck pistol on road trips, and a great gun to stash in the bathroom. |