Posted: 3/29/2016 10:03:03 AM EDT
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Who makes a good glock auto sear? I'm looking for reviews on 100% finished products, not 80%.
The auto sear in the glock meltdown video had a pin break off the back during the video, is that a common problem? Does anyone have experience with different brands? |
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ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Quoted:
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I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Well poop, there goes all of the fun .................. 
Hey OP, try googling: Glock auto sear for sale |
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Quoted: ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Quoted: Quoted: I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. |
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100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. |
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Well poop, there goes all of the fun ..................
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I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Well poop, there goes all of the fun ..................
Hey OP, try googling: Glock auto sear for sale I have, I was hoping arfcom would come through with some reviews. |
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I had a Priority Tool and Machine Glock sear in a 19. Just dropped in, no fitting was necessary. You're going to have to get a demo letter for one though. One of my 07/02 buddies did a few 80% ones, took some tinkering, but they work. Great! that's the kind of response I was hoping to get. I'll look them up. |
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Quoted: From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. Quoted: Quoted: 100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. |
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Then why get a 07/02? The ATF has in past denied approving 07/02 FLL/SOT for not having ITAR sorted out. Quoted:
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100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times |
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Who makes a good glock auto sear? I'm looking for reviews on 100% finished products, not 80%. The auto sear in the glock meltdown video had a pin break off the back during the video, is that a common problem? Does anyone have experience with different brands? Ohhhhhh this thread is going to go places! ETA: Weaksauce. No fun. |
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I have, I was hoping arfcom would come through with some reviews. Quoted:
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I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Well poop, there goes all of the fun ..................
Hey OP, try googling: Glock auto sear for sale I have, I was hoping arfcom would come through with some reviews. GD doesn't like guns. You should ask the question in the NFA or FFL sub forums. |
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Quoted: 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. |
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OP-there's going to be a machinegun shoot in Vinton, IA in June. The SOT putting it on is an IAHTF member but doesn't post often. He has several full auto Glocks, come to the shoot and talk to him. He can tell you which to stay away from. Thanks Shack - I had looked into going this year, but last year was a cluster from what I've been told. off to the htf... |
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a 01/03 can assemble a G19 and Post-sample auto sear too. The auto sear is the machine gun in of itself, no manufacturing has accrued. Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. Quoted:
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100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I don't believe an 01 can assemble per the batf. They can gunsmith, but that is completely different. I'll IM you when (if) I get the sot and let you know how it turns out. |
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Thanks Shack - I had looked into going this year, but last year was a cluster from what I've been told. off to the htf... Quoted:
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OP-there's going to be a machinegun shoot in Vinton, IA in June. The SOT putting it on is an IAHTF member but doesn't post often. He has several full auto Glocks, come to the shoot and talk to him. He can tell you which to stay away from. Thanks Shack - I had looked into going this year, but last year was a cluster from what I've been told. off to the htf... Biggest complaint he heard was the lines-people having to wait too long to shoot. Like I said, he doesn't post much, I got this info talking with him on the phone. This year will have more dealers so hopefully shorter lines. |
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Quoted: I don't believe an 01 can assemble per the batf. They can gunsmith, but that is completely different. I'll IM you when (if) I get the sot and let you know how it turns out. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I don't believe an 01 can assemble per the batf. They can gunsmith, but that is completely different. I'll IM you when (if) I get the sot and let you know how it turns out. |
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a 01/03 can assemble a G19 and Post-sample auto sear too. The auto sear is the machine gun in of itself, no manufacturing has accrued. Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. Quoted:
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100% Glock sear is a post-sample machine guns requiring an demo-letter. The 80% make more since because it easy for 07/02 FFL/SOTs to make and register as a machine gun. Basicly with the full complete auto sears the juice ain't worth the squeeze. From my reading 07/02 can't cut, drill, or machine or else they would also be subject to ITAR. That would put an 80% out of the running. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. |
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Quoted: I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Then why get a 07/02? The ATF has in past denied approving 07/02 FLL/SOT for not having ITAR sorted out. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. |
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The ATF seems to really spotty on it asking about or enforcing it, that doesn't clear you from running into trouble with the state department. Quoted:
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Then why get a 07/02? The ATF has in past denied approving 07/02 FLL/SOT for not having ITAR sorted out. 07/02 can assemble - ie: glock 19 + 100% auto sear = fun times 07/02/ITAR can manufacture - ie: glock 19 + 80% auto sear + cut drill machine = fun times Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. For the record I have a letter from the state department stating a type 7 class 2 does not need to be registered with itar if certain conditions are met. from the letter - If your company is not manufacturing, exporting, or brokering defense articles or services, and restricts its business activities to the domestic sale or resale of firearms to U.S. persons, including firearm assembly and general gunsmith activities (as described above), then you would not be required to register with the DDTC under ITAR Part 122 or 129 (which covers brokering), and you would not be required to pay a fee, which is currently $2,250 per year. |
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ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. Quoted:
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I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. 07/02 you just make your own. Edit: nm. Reading is for Faggots. |
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Quoted: For the record I have a letter from the state department stating a type 7 class 2 does not need to be registered with itar if certain conditions are met. from the letter - If your company is not manufacturing, exporting, or brokering defense articles or services, and restricts its business activities to the domestic sale or resale of firearms to U.S. persons, including firearm assembly and general gunsmith activities (as described above), then you would not be required to register with the DDTC under ITAR Part 122 or 129 (which covers brokering), and you would not be required to pay a fee, which is currently $2,250 per year. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: a 01/03 can assemble a G19 and Post-sample auto sear too. The auto sear is the machine gun in of itself, no manufacturing has accrued. Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. For the record I have a letter from the state department stating a type 7 class 2 does not need to be registered with itar if certain conditions are met. from the letter - If your company is not manufacturing, exporting, or brokering defense articles or services, and restricts its business activities to the domestic sale or resale of firearms to U.S. persons, including firearm assembly and general gunsmith activities (as described above), then you would not be required to register with the DDTC under ITAR Part 122 or 129 (which covers brokering), and you would not be required to pay a fee, which is currently $2,250 per year. I'm interested in this because the only reason I don't have a 07/02 myself is the ITAR fee, I'm not sure I can cover that and still be anywhere near in the black at the end of year, I primary want it for my personal R&D pursuits. |
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07/02 you just make your own. Edit: nm. Reading is for Faggots. Quoted:
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I would think you had plenty of vendors already lined up when you spent all that money on your SOT. ffl class 7, sot 2 is in process. So now I am looking at getting vendors lined up. 07/02 you just make your own. Edit: nm. Reading is for Faggots. He can't. Sounds like the State dept. gave him an OK to avoid ITAR if (and thats a big if...) he only uses the 07 for non-NFA domestic manufacturing. If that is the case, he's really no different than an 01/SOT with respect to making NFA - he can't - he can only transfer them as an 01/SOT could. |
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Do you have scan or something of the letter I'd like to read the full text. Still sounds like ITAR follows the split between 01 and 07 FFL. I'm interested in this because the only reason I don't have a 07/02 myself is the ITAR fee, I'm not sure I can cover that and still be anywhere near in the black at the end of year, I primary want it for my personal R&D pursuits. Quoted:
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a 01/03 can assemble a G19 and Post-sample auto sear too. The auto sear is the machine gun in of itself, no manufacturing has accrued. Let me know when you have a your SOT in hand, I'd like to see that the ATF is issuing them for non-ITAR registered manufactures. I held a Type 07 and Class 2 SOT for a short time. My FFL was issued to me and I then sent in the check for the SOT. Once it was cashed, BATFE sent me the receipt and I was an SOT. I can assure you that they did not check with the State Department to see if I'd registered under ITAR before cashing the check and issuing the receipt. For the record I have a letter from the state department stating a type 7 class 2 does not need to be registered with itar if certain conditions are met. from the letter - If your company is not manufacturing, exporting, or brokering defense articles or services, and restricts its business activities to the domestic sale or resale of firearms to U.S. persons, including firearm assembly and general gunsmith activities (as described above), then you would not be required to register with the DDTC under ITAR Part 122 or 129 (which covers brokering), and you would not be required to pay a fee, which is currently $2,250 per year. I'm interested in this because the only reason I don't have a 07/02 myself is the ITAR fee, I'm not sure I can cover that and still be anywhere near in the black at the end of year, I primary want it for my personal R&D pursuits. I do, but it's too long for IM - IM me your email address and I will send it over |