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3/14/2016 12:13:02 AM EDT
Has anyone ever used it for back pain?  Did it work?

I was prescribed it, but my insurance denied it.  Now I have to decide if its worth paying out of pocket for, which is going to cost $200+
3/14/2016 12:15:39 AM EDT
[#1]
Resubmit to the insurance company. May take up to 3 submissions but they will pay it.
3/14/2016 12:18:21 AM EDT
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The letter says they will only cover it if its prescribed for post-herpetic neuralgia, pain associated with diabetic neuropathy, or for pain associated with cancer related neuropathy.

Are you suggesting that if I resubmit it, my current plan changes to cover my condition (herniated disks)?
3/14/2016 12:23:52 AM EDT
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I have had 5 operations for herniated discs, L4,L5,S1. My back rarely hurt, it was the pain running down my legs that drove me crazy. I would think that Percoset would work much better for you. The only time my back hurt was because they had cut on it to remove the bulged disc. Just my 2 cents, your mileage may vary.
3/14/2016 12:32:32 AM EDT
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The letter says they will only cover it if its prescribed for post-herpetic neuralgia, pain associated with diabetic neuropathy, or for pain associated with cancer related neuropathy.

Are you suggesting that if I resubmit it, my current plan changes to cover my condition (herniated disks)?
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Resubmit to the insurance company. May take up to 3 submissions but they will pay it.


The letter says they will only cover it if its prescribed for post-herpetic neuralgia, pain associated with diabetic neuropathy, or for pain associated with cancer related neuropathy.

Are you suggesting that if I resubmit it, my current plan changes to cover my condition (herniated disks)?


My wife does billing & coding for an MRI center.  Even if it says that.  they usually will pay with persistence. Many times they refuse a claim the first time "just because". I can't guarantee it, but often times it will be paid.
3/14/2016 12:34:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Lidocaine numbs the skin.  I don't see how it would help back pain



3/14/2016 12:35:06 AM EDT
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So what you described is a prior authorization. Basically non formulary drug but can be covered under certain circumstances. Those circumstances are decided by your insurance, which you listed the reasons they cover. Now if your doctor feels it's a medical necessity, he may be able to get in touch with the insurance and give them a reason why he feels that's the case.


If you wanna know what numbing the area feels like. Look for a tube of recticare, it's 5% lidocaine Otc. Apply it where it hurts and that should give you an idea of how it'll feel. My pharmacy sells the recticare for around 25 bucks I think
3/14/2016 12:38:34 AM EDT
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So what you described is a prior authorization. Basically non formulary drug but can be covered under certain circumstances. Those circumstances are decided by your insurance, which you listed the reasons they cover. Now if your doctor feels it's a medical necessity, he may be able to get in touch with the insurance and give them a reason why he feels that's the case.


If you wanna know what numbing the area feels like. Look for a tube of recticare, it's 5% lidocaine Otc. Apply it where it hurts and that should give you an idea of how it'll feel. My pharmacy sells the recticare for around 25 bucks I think
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Yea your tell the pharmacy to send the doc a prior authorization and he will call them to justify it for you so they will pay it. Sometimes you'll also need to call the doc to make them aware that the pharmacy sent a prior authorization to him/her.
3/14/2016 12:50:24 AM EDT
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I would not have made it through 2007 without them. Tore a disc in my lower back and couldn't even stand up straight. Worst pain I ever felt. Doc prescribed lidocaine patches. They only gave partial pain relief but it was enough for me to be able to do physical therapy so I could move normally again. My insurance stopped paying for them a few months later and I willingly paid $300 for a box of 25 of them. Some days I needed them so I could work, drive a car, etc without excruciating pain. They don't totally eliminate the pain but do a pretty good job of turning an 8 level of pain down to 3 or 4.

I don't use them anymore, thankfully my back only hurts a little from time to time. Keep doing those core strengthening exercises when you get better!!
3/14/2016 12:58:04 AM EDT
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My back pain is pretty severe, the lidocaine patches did not work well for a couple reasons.  It wasn't strong enough and they didn't stay in place well at all.  What I ended up getting in lieu of it was a compounded topical lotion that had 2 narcotic pain killers, 2 neuropathy drugs, 2 NSAIDs and 2 muscle relaxers.  The Army stopped covering it after I retired, so I called the company that makes it and I can buy it for 50 bucks over my co-pay.  I was happy with them.  If you want to get your Doc to look into it, the name of the company is Dermatran, he can specify exactly what drugs he wants in it and in what dosage.
3/14/2016 1:00:01 AM EDT
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I have pretty much a worn out hip...bone on bone...and yes the patches work.  It's a mild slow pain relieve,  will work wounders for sleep .   Wasn't able to wear during the day because of how my prosthetic leg attaches .    Nubitone works real good with little to no sideffects,  isn't like a painkiller .
3/14/2016 1:00:35 AM EDT
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Dindu nuffin for me. Percocet or Vicodin with Corona chaser.
3/14/2016 1:07:18 AM EDT
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Did not work well for me tended to make the skin numb but leave the underlying ache. Ice pack worked better with Ibuprofen or Flexeril (muscle relaxant) and some crown. Initially they gave me a few tylenol III but opioids do nothing for me at all. The first few days after were the worst once the inflamation went down most of the pain subsided unless I moved around too much. I have a bunch of the patches left --never used them. See if they can give you 5-6 and try them out first before you lay out for a bunch then find they do nopthing for you.
3/14/2016 1:11:45 AM EDT
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So what you described is a prior authorization. Basically non formulary drug but can be covered under certain circumstances. Those circumstances are decided by your insurance, which you listed the reasons they cover. Now if your doctor feels it's a medical necessity, he may be able to get in touch with the insurance and give them a reason why he feels that's the case.


If you wanna know what numbing the area feels like. Look for a tube of recticare, it's 5% lidocaine Otc. Apply it where it hurts and that should give you an idea of how it'll feel. My pharmacy sells the recticare for around 25 bucks I think
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Try this.  Only difference is the patches will last 12 hours instead of 20 minutes....
3/14/2016 1:15:05 AM EDT
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Has anyone ever used it for back pain?  Did it work?

I was prescribed it, but my insurance denied it.  Now I have to decide if its worth paying out of pocket for, which is going to cost $200+
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I have used them on and of before I was diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondilities and it did not do much for me at all. But that is because of AS.

Back than my Insurance covered the cost and I also got samples boxes from my Doctor. Only cost to me was the copay and that was $10 or $15 (not sure anymore)

3/14/2016 2:44:07 PM EDT
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Not back pain, but for abdominal pain under the ribcage.  they work for that quite well
3/14/2016 2:54:01 PM EDT
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I use them when I have lower back pain that I don't want to take pain pills for, they help enough to sleep.  Don't knock it out completely.  (nothing does when it is bad, with me pain pills are more a dissociative  (Ie I feel the pain but don't care anymore due to the pills.)   Thankfully my insurance does cover it. (herniated l4-5) fused l5-S1.
3/14/2016 3:04:21 PM EDT
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They seem to do an OK job.  We use a lot of them in my facility due to substance abuse histories in our patients.