[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Electronic Hearing Protection (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/20/2016 11:11:45 PM EDT
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Don't know where to post this, so I figured GD would get the job done.
I'm looking for recommendations on electronic hearing protection. I've done some Googeling on my own, have seen a few of the major brands like Peltor. What else is out there worth looking into. Thanks in advance guys! |
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Pffffhhh. Do you even operate bro? 
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| I have a pair of Leights. I was issued a pair of Peltors for military use. When the Leights died (apparently they do so earlier than the Peltors) I bought pair of Peltor Tactical Sports for personal use. I still have the no-longer-electronic Leights in case I bring extra people to the range. |
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My Leights died on me, and have switched to peltor and am happy. Bought another cheap one, forgot what brand,
But holy crap did they suck. Decided to give it a go at a plate match since I didn't have anything else in my bag. And the loud shots that it didn't attenuate took me by surprise and totally threw me off my rhythm |
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We have 3 pairs of these. You can't beat them for the price. |
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https://dsgarms.com/msa75302-x-g
We have these threads all the time. While I am not chastising you, a lot of times I search, I put ar15.com in quotes after what I am googling. (I don't own these (too pussy to pull the trigger) I have the Howards elec) great muffs. |
I've got a couple. For my money the Howard Leights are the best, Of the two sets of peltor's the grey ones are nicest (black ones shut off too easily with wind and conversation with people with plugs in). For $40 bucks the sports can fail every other year and I'll still buy a new set. The sound is as good a radian's, and they are slim enough to only break the cup weld in certain positions. |
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Instead of just pimping the one brand that someone owns... I will tell you about these 4 that gets used quite often.
Howard Leights: Good value. Sound quality decent, picks up wind but not terribly. Sound is a little brassy. Sometimes can slip on the adjustment and not stay put. They wont work for me at all, but my wife loves them. No auto-shutoff. Peltor Tac-6s: Really natural reproduction of sound. Masks out wind very well. Fit great. No auto-shutoff. If you sweat a lot over time the circuit board is exposed to wet foam and will corrode. Mine lasted 10 years. Really thin at bottom, best pair for shooting rifles without getting dislodged. Peltor Tac 100 Fair sound reproduction. Volume doesn't go very high. Good fit. Has auto-shutoff. MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X Terrible sound reproduction, picks up background noise more than people around you. Wind, footsteps, everything. The electronics and sound control are nice. Auto-shutoff. Gel cups are incredible, but I believe these might be available for other models now. Expensive. I wear these the most because I spend so much on them, and the gel cups are sooooo comfy with glasses.... but I hate how a $69 pair sounds and filters out crap better. |
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I have these. They were cheap and work great |
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These! 
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I have Howard's.
2 or 3 pair. They work great for the money. .....FREE. They seem good and they work well, but i have nothing to compare them to. I work for the company and get all the PPE I can when they give it away. Ears Eyes, lots of glasses. Gloves Respirators |
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I use the HL and they have been great in outdoor matches with both rifle/pistol. I don't need to double up outdoors under most circumstances (exceptions are SBRs or comps when shooting with an overhang).
Sometimes I do wonder if I need the Sordins in order to truly operate...
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This is one budget option (Peltor SportTac or Tactical Sport) but from a quality brand. These are small enough not to interfere with the cheek weld from any position and fit nicely under most properly sized helmets. The NRR is good for the size, but in the range that plugs underneath are recommended for shooting short barrel comped rifles inside buildings or narrow props. Batteries and occasionally maintenance packs for new foam and padding is all you need. I've used mine for almost 10 years several times a week from the humidity and temps of Florida to freezing rain to -30 F temps in Lapland.
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Have a set of the Howard Leight Impact Sports and MSA Supreme Pro-X and prefer the MSA for a better seal around my shooting glasses.
The Leight unit works alright but gunshots are still loud enough to be uncomfortable, they are my nightstand ear pro plus they fit my larger head without being maxed out in adjustment like the MSA. |
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These are great. |
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Pffffhhh. Do you even operate bro?
http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/minesafetyappliances/SupremeProEarmuff_000090007600001026_US?fit=constrain,1&wid=373&hei=296&fmt=png-alpha Quoted:
Pffffhhh. Do you even operate bro?
http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/minesafetyappliances/SupremeProEarmuff_000090007600001026_US?fit=constrain,1&wid=373&hei=296&fmt=png-alpha They are absolutely fantastic. Love mine. |
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Garbage compared to MSA Sordin. Buy once cry once. |
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I got a set of sordins from unclesamsretailoutlet.com for $100, it has a mic boom that I'll never use but I just bend it out of the way. I got a similar deal. I just pulled them apart and clipped the mic leads, then filled the hole with black silicone. |
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Had a set of peltors a few years back. They died way to early for the price and ate up batteries even in storage. Had to take the batteries out after each range trip. I really like electronic ear pro in general but don't shoot enough anymore to justify buying a new set. If I did I'd probably not go with peltor again.
1DD |
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These threads are so interesting. We are talking ear protection yet most of the replies deal with cheap and how well you can hear when NOT shooting.
I bought the max nnr protection I could find. Pro Ears has one rated for at nnr of 31. I bought a used set 6 years ago and picked a new pair of the nnr 26 ones off a prize table. I wear one or both every week, often all day. Ear pads are leather and very comfortable and replaceable. Remember, you do not have to suffer pain to suffer ear damage. If, after shooting, your ears feel stuffy or there is ringing you have suffered permanent hearing damage. Although the Pro Ears are good I still double up with the NNR 26 ones when shooting or ROing comped pistols or rifles. |
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These threads are so interesting. We are talking ear protection yet most of the replies deal with cheap and how well you can hear when NOT shooting. I bought the max nnr protection I could find. Pro Ears has one rated for at nnr of 31. I bought a used set 6 years ago and picked a new pair of the nnr 26 ones off a prize table. I wear one or both every week, often all day. Ear pads are leather and very comfortable and replaceable. Remember, you do not have to suffer pain to suffer ear damage. If, after shooting, your ears feel stuffy or there is ringing you have suffered permanent hearing damage. Although the Pro Ears are good I still double up with the NNR 26 ones when shooting or ROing comped pistols or rifles. Anyone can read the specs for the NRR ratings. This thread is about real world observations. Something you cant get from the side of the box they come in. |
| While I use the MSA Supreme X's I combo them with a suppressor on my rifles. When I go to an outdoor or indoor range I utilize peltor combat plugs or surefire 4 sonic defender plugs with my MSA's as not everyone shoots suppressed. Both ear plugs allow for passive sound to enter which my MSA's will intensify. This system allows for me to shot with awareness and protect my ears to the best ability possible. |
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This thread is something I've been interested in and will have me pulling out the CC shortly. From a physical standpoint, how is shooting say an ar with muffs on. Outdoors? Perfect. Indoors? Need plugs and muffs. In either case, for shooting rifle - you cannot use the big bulky muffs with really good NRR ratings, because they will lift off your ear. For this reason you should get muffs that are thin at the bottom, like the Peltor TAC6s or "shotgunner" style, or just try out several and see what works for your body type and stance. If you find yours lift a little, double plugging helps a lot. |
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Outdoors? Perfect. Indoors? Need plugs and muffs. In either case, for shooting rifle - you cannot use the big bulky muffs with really good NRR ratings, because they will lift off your ear. For this reason you should get muffs that are thin at the bottom, like the Peltor TAC6s or "shotgunner" style, or just try out several and see what works for your body type and stance. If you find yours lift a little, double plugging helps a lot. Quoted:
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This thread is something I've been interested in and will have me pulling out the CC shortly. From a physical standpoint, how is shooting say an ar with muffs on. Outdoors? Perfect. Indoors? Need plugs and muffs. In either case, for shooting rifle - you cannot use the big bulky muffs with really good NRR ratings, because they will lift off your ear. For this reason you should get muffs that are thin at the bottom, like the Peltor TAC6s or "shotgunner" style, or just try out several and see what works for your body type and stance. If you find yours lift a little, double plugging helps a lot. Thanks for that. I think my question has always been what kept me jumping in. |
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Had a set of peltors a few years back. They died way to early for the price and ate up batteries even in storage. Had to take the batteries out after each range trip. I really like electronic ear pro in general but don't shoot enough anymore to justify buying a new set. If I did I'd probably not go with peltor again. 1DD Huge difference between low-end and high-end Peltors - they make all kinds of stuff. I still have a set of HL Impacts, but as others have said, you get what you pay for. They really aren't that great, and have a horrible seal around eye pro. They are an okay budget solution, but I wish I would have ponied up earlier and got something better. I now run a set of Peltor TacSports with the gel earcups. Huge difference in everything - comfort, sound reproduction, response. When shooting indoors, I double up, with low-NRR rating plugs (marketed for industrial workers) under the Peltors, so with the amplification I can still converse just fine. Outdoors I will just run the Peltors, unless I am shooting certain rifles, in which case I just run higher NRR plugs (due to the muffs interfering if I need to get a really low cheek weld). I considered Sordins, but they are about twice as expensive as the Peltors. I have tried them once before, and while they are nice, I don't see them being worth double what I've got. |
