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4/29/2003 6:04:16 AM EDT
[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32276
French atrocities[/url]

                            Like many of you, I have been struggling to
                            understand why the French have behaved as they do
                            regarding the United States. As this is one subject
                            fraught with opinion but very little fact, a bit of
                            digging seemed to be in order.

                            Some of the trail led to Africa, where France has
                            continued its century-long, "sphere of influence" (read
                            as "assumed ownership") of parts of that continent.
                            France has regularly behaved in a such a
                            well-documented, murderous manner that, were it
                            the United States, it would prompt an unheard-of
                            level of universal international condemnation.

                            You should know that today's actions simply follow
                            the well-established pattern of government actions
                            under DeGaulle's Jacques "Papa" Foccard, who was
                            infamous for his Machiavellian intrigues in formerly
                            French Africa.

                            The United Nations debate over Iraq has been a most
                            welcome diversion, as France has long managed to
                            support and direct bloody dictatorships, genocide
                            and at-will military interventions across the map of
                            Africa with self-assured impunity.

                            Take for instance, the latest French military
                            intervention, Operation Unicorn, in the Ivory Coast
                            beginning in late 2002.

                            A former colony, Cote d' Ivoire was given nominal
                            independence in 1958 while France artfully maintained
                            the lion's share of governmental functions and
                            ownership of businesses. French businesses routinely
                            returned just a quarter of the market value of Ivorian
                            exports to the country, while maintaining French
                            dominance in imported goods.

                            In a shift of policy from his predecessors, Ivorian
                            President Laurent Gbagbo ruled in the French
                            manner by segregating and allocating power within
                            the country's population along ethnic and religious
                            lines with the immigrant workers and Muslim north
                            forcibly kept in thrall to the Christian south.

                            A failed coup this past September that was outwardly
                            instigated by ousted Ivorian leader, Gen. Robert Guei
                            (killed early in the ensuing ethnic fighting)
                            endangered French business interests and French
                            President Chirac responded in typically Gallic fashion
                            by sending in increasing numbers of the French
                            Foreign Legion's famed Paras. Initially touted as a
                            "peace-keeping" force, the troops were soon
                            authorized to shoot anyone who might obstruct
                            them. These orders are a very far cry from those
                            given to American peacekeepers, but their issuance
                            drew no significant international notice.

                            The Ivorian government then quickly began to field
                            French-made light armor and Russian-made heavy
                            attack helicopters provided through the good offices
                            of the Belgians, while significant quantities of
                            Russian-made small arms and some armored vehicles
                            came in via the Angolans.

                            According to reports, the forces of the
                            French-backed government then embarked on a
                            series of murders of immigrants in areas under their
                            control, whilst the French troops kept rebel forces at
                            bay. This is not to say the rebels did not perpetrate
                            the same horrors as well, for the literal
                            eye-for-an-eye is a particularly African custom.

                            If not for the debate over Iraq, President Chirac
                            might have suffered some embarrassing publicity over
                            such actions. Not that he would deign to take notice.

                            Another example still waiting to be prosecuted is
                            France's Rwandan Operation Turquoise and its
                            predecessor actions. For those who missed that one,
                            Turquoise was their 1994 military action that assisted
                            in the fully armed escape of the French-backed and
                            equipped perpetrators who initiated the Hutu-Tutsi
                            genocide that eventually claimed 800,000 lives. The
                            French government also provided transport and de
                            facto sanctuary for Agathe Kanziga (wife of the
                            Rwandan dictator) and her entourage that were fully
                            involved in the governmentally instigated genocide.

                            On Dec. 15, 1998, the French parliamentary committee
                            appointed to examine their own country's culpability
                            in the genocide pronounced themselves wholly
                            innocent … it was the U.N. that did it – but of
                            course. The Rwandans disagreed and, in August of
                            2002, quoted a 1994 telephone conversation from a
                            top French official to a Rwandan military official
                            discussing the shipment of weapons and who then
                            asked him to stop killing Tutsi people on camera. "Kill
                            them, but do it off camera." Imagine the uproar if an
                            American official had uttered that one.

                            While briefly reported in America, these
                            French-empowered mass murders have not drawn
                            the ire of our liberal media as they seem to be truly
                            possessed of the ethnic and racial stereotyping they
                            so raucously accuse others of with such strident
                            speechifying. Think on the case of Rodney King for
                            just a moment.

                            As for the French, their studied policy is to simply
                            ignore the outcry.

                         
4/29/2003 6:05:21 AM EDT
[#1]
 This brings us back to just why the French behave
                            toward America in the way that they do.

                            Gallic hauteur and pride is so universally accepted as
                            part of their national character that its display goes
                            almost without any notice, except for a shrug – even
                            by the French themselves. It is this untoward pride of
                            place along with their own self-awareness of their
                            habitual, almost casual misdeeds that prompt them to
                            malign America. It is because they truthfully cannot
                            tolerate the notion of a country with standards of
                            ethical conduct better than their own
                            well-documented, venerable thuggish, murderously
                            thieving and oppressive behavior.

                            While we are far less than perfect, pray we never
                            sink to the level of the French.


                            Tom Marzullo is a former Special Forces soldier and a
                            veteran of submarine special operations. He resides in
                            Colorado.

4/29/2003 6:23:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Dead square on target.  No wonder the Vietnamese hated the French so.

When the French government started criticizing the US preparations for war with Iraq I thought, "Be suspicious when the French start lecturing you on morality and ethics."  They are a self-absorbed, morally bankrupt nation.
4/29/2003 7:20:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Absolutely right on the mark!  The French were...and remain the WORST colonial murdering bastards of all time!

While most of the European nations treated their colonies reasonably well, being more interested in making money from the long term relationship with the "golden goose" of their colony, the French went in like a plague of locusts, raping and pillaging over the decades, taking out all the resources that the country had to offer, ensuring that the locals never got an education and murdering anyone who dared to talk back.

Steven Karnow, in his great book on Vietnam, covers the French colonial period there very well.  It's no damn wonder that when our Green Berets arrived there in the early '60s, the Vietnamese were terrified and angry because the thought the Frogs had returned!  I remember one disturbing picture in his book taken about 1920, that shows several Vietnamese heads, removed from their previous owners by the French authorities, lined up in a neat row in the sand of a beach, right next to the bodies.  I don't remember the prisoners' "crimes" but I'm pretty sure that they were pretty petty in our modern lexicon.  After WW II, one of the biggest mistakes Churchill and the Brits and Truman and the Americans made was to let the Frogs back in, instead of letting Ho and the Vietnamese have their freedom...then by backing the Frogs in their war against the Viet Minh.  The rest is history.
4/29/2003 7:37:18 AM EDT
[#4]
I thought this was going to be a thread on Brie and Camembert...
4/29/2003 8:00:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Not to mention escargot.
4/29/2003 8:34:35 AM EDT
[#6]
[img]http://flymeaway.net/images/snail_on_a_scooter.jpg[/img]
4/29/2003 8:55:52 AM EDT
[#7]
One of the things that bugs me about them is their arrogant, superior attitude when there is absolutely no justification for it.
4/29/2003 9:07:05 AM EDT
[#8]
"No!  You can't come up and see it!  Now go away you silly Ka-Nig-its before I taunt you a second time!"

[ni]
4/29/2003 9:08:03 AM EDT
[#9]
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I thought this was going to be a thread on Brie and Camembert...
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LOL! I was thinking red wine with fish!
4/29/2003 9:29:30 AM EDT
[#10]
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One of the things that bugs me about them is their arrogant, superior attitude when there is absolutely no justification for it.
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They did, under Napolean, own or run a good portion of the world, IIRC, including the portion of THIS country that ended up as the "Louisian Purchase", so skillfully acquired by Thomas Jefferson.

They were at different times in the past, a force to be reckoned with.  Now they just seem to dress nice and bleat alot.  That and breed more muslim terrorists...

(Thus endeth all I know about the French and history.)
4/29/2003 10:04:50 AM EDT
[#11]
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I remember one disturbing picture in his book taken about 1920, that shows several Vietnamese heads, removed from their previous owners by the French authorities, lined up in a neat row in the sand of a beach, right next to the bodies.  I don't remember the prisoners' "crimes" but I'm pretty sure that they were pretty petty in our modern lexicon.  [red]After WW II, one of the biggest mistakes Churchill and the Brits and Truman and the Americans made was to let the Frogs back in, instead of letting Ho and the Vietnamese have their freedom...then by backing the Frogs in their war against the Viet Minh.[/red]  The rest is history.
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It's also interesting to note, That the leader of the North, Ho Chi Min, (Uncle Ho), was a US ally against the japs and was promised independance by US after the war. After the French were defeated by Ho, the US obligingly took their place against their former ally...

How do you spell "Betrayal"???

4/29/2003 10:17:53 AM EDT
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How do you spell "Betrayal"???
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F-R-A-N-C-E
4/29/2003 10:19:41 AM EDT
[#13]
mcnielsen:  Yes, I forgot that point.  They are very good at taunting!
4/29/2003 10:26:56 AM EDT
[#14]
How about the newly revealed papers that show the French were giving the Iraqi government every scrap of information that we gave them. The French were supporting the Iraqis! France is dead to me.
4/29/2003 11:43:25 AM EDT
[#15]
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I thought this was going to be a thread on Brie and Camembert...
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LOL! I was thinking red wine with fish!
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I was thinking French women's hairy pits.
4/29/2003 1:47:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Liberty86: Yep, I think we blew it with Ho.  He turned to us for help because he didn't trust the Russians or Chinese.  Great example of 20/20 hindsight.  Maybe some of those lessons can be applied to Afghanistan and Iraq?