[ARCHIVED THREAD] - need advice quick. propane (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 2/18/2016 6:26:51 PM EDT
| I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? |
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Quoted: I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? |
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Quoted: I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? Quoted: Quoted: I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? |
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Quoted: I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? Quoted: Quoted: I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? |
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Possible risk of fire/explosion and I would think fire department is who you want to talk to ( as soon as you got kids out of house)
Besides checking for danger they would be the ones to decide if gas company was doing wrong and starting action against them if they did |
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Quoted: Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames...  |
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Quoted: They are. They are trying to fix a leak socthey emptied it into the air. I would assume that is a bit dangerous considering. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? We burn a lot of propane at my work. 800 gallons/day, more or less. Some of it is very high pressure - close to 15 PSI. Household pressure is well under 1 PSI (11in water column). We get leaks now and then - the wrong valve gets opened, whatever. I don't know about intentionally venting 50 gallons all at once in a residential area, but I'm sure the propane tech that vented the gas in question did not want to die so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety. |
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I don't know about intentionally venting 50 gallons all at once in a residential area, but I'm sure the propane tech that vented the gas in question did not want to die so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety. Never assume the best. That is what leads to bad accidents. Call the Fire Department and raise the issue. |
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The ethyl mercaptan used to odorize the propane will generally linger a lot longer than the propane itself. Unless you filter the propane through snow or water. In which case the mercap strips off, and you get deordorized propane traveling through the subsurface. And then you call me and pay me lots to track it down and remediate it so you don't explode.  |
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Or my basement and they vented off the last 10 to work on it. Quoted:
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Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames... Are you saying that they vented 50 gallons of propane into your basement? |
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Possible risk of fire/explosion and I would think fire department is who you want to talk to ( as soon as you got kids out of house) Besides checking for danger they would be the ones to decide if gas company was doing wrong and starting action against them if they did Lol |
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Never assume the best. That is what leads to bad accidents. Call the Fire Department and raise the issue. Quoted:
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I don't know about intentionally venting 50 gallons all at once in a residential area, but I'm sure the propane tech that vented the gas in question did not want to die so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety. Never assume the best. That is what leads to bad accidents. Call the Fire Department and raise the issue. Please call the FD. I can't wait to hear what they say.
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Quoted: Are you saying that they vented 50 gallons of propane into your basement? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames... Are you saying that they vented 50 gallons of propane into your basement? |
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Quoted: Never have lived somewhere that used on site external propane tank Is this normal procedure ? I myself would be pissed they over filled it and then be doubly pissed they came back and 'vented' off my hard earned $$ into the aptmoshphere |
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It's normal practice...venting propane outdoors and the propane Co and all that goes with it.
Quit being a push and bitching...it will get you know where. Build a bridge. Now if it's still strong go smell the tank they vented and make sure it's not still venting. If it is call someone. The additive they put in burns your sniffer...you will have a problem for a while. |
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Quoted: It's normal practice...venting propane outdoors and the propane Co and all that goes with it. Quit being a push and bitching...it will get you know where. Build a bridge. Now if it's still strong go smell the tank they vented and make sure it's not still venting. If it is call someone. The additive they put in burns your sniffer...you will have a problem for a while. |
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My propane company will only do 80% Quoted:
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Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames... My propane company will only do 80% Same thing at my vacation house, 80% max. |
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Probably not as dangerous as you might think. We burn a lot of propane at my work. 800 gallons/day, more or less. Some of it is very high pressure - close to 15 PSI. Household pressure is well under 1 PSI (11in water column). We get leaks now and then - the wrong valve gets opened, whatever. I don't know about intentionally venting 50 gallons all at once in a residential area, but I'm sure the propane tech that vented the gas in question did not want to die so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety. Quoted:
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I come home and smell very strong propane smell. I get my wife out of house and neighbors out of theres. He calls propane company and they explain they vented off 10 precent of the 500 gallon tank and left. Shit is strong enough to gag me. Tank is 25 ft from either house. Is this legal and who do i call to bitch besides propane company? I'm sure it was legal and that there is no recourse for you. My question is: Who is paying for the 50 gallons of propane they vented off? We burn a lot of propane at my work. 800 gallons/day, more or less. Some of it is very high pressure - close to 15 PSI. Household pressure is well under 1 PSI (11in water column). We get leaks now and then - the wrong valve gets opened, whatever. I don't know about intentionally venting 50 gallons all at once in a residential area, but I'm sure the propane tech that vented the gas in question did not want to die so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety. This is the real answer. I have a fleet of pickups on propane. Its not nearly as dangerous as you think. I vented 1000 gallons one time and no fucks were given. |
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Quoted: Same thing at my vacation house, 80% max. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames... My propane company will only do 80% Same thing at my vacation house, 80% max. |
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Quoted: Good news is that it's supposed to be windy as shit here overnight so the smell should be gone tomorrow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I was actually going to pm u and ask if that is normal in a residential area to do. Im more pissed that they didnt walk over and tell my wife what they were going to do. It still stinks to beat hell. Quoted:
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Good news is that it's supposed to be windy as shit here overnight so the smell should be gone tomorrow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I've never heard of anyone doing it like that. Just always figured they would recover what they could into a truck and then vent it off or burn it off somewhere else. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| Just to let you know, I still check for leaks in my LP lines with a lighter, instead of soapy water. They released 50 gal of propane into the atmosphere. We vent 20% H2S wells into the atmosphere, for hours on end, before plugging and after flares and such have been taken off location. Way higher flash point then propane, but way more deadly inhaled. Some blew in your house and car, wow. Im not understanding the outrage I guess. |
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If my kids get sick because of this shit I will be doing more than bitching. I already chewed their asses for not letting us know. We could have taken measures to prevent so much from getting in the house and cars. People that do shit like this without regard for others deserve whatever they get. This aint a farm. 2 houses were within 25 ft of this shit. I've held a hazmat tech level cert in the past. Don't tell me this is not dangerous in the space they did it in without notifying the adjacent dwellings. A good cloud of that shit ended up in my house. Quoted:
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It's normal practice...venting propane outdoors and the propane Co and all that goes with it. Quit being a push and bitching...it will get you know where. Build a bridge. Now if it's still strong go smell the tank they vented and make sure it's not still venting. If it is call someone. The additive they put in burns your sniffer...you will have a problem for a while. ypu sound like city peeps |
| No expert here, but my understanding is that propane is heavier than air. A guy I know has a propane heated pool. The guy came to fill the tank and there was a leak of some sort and the propane settled into a low spot in the backyard. Something ignited it and the guy filling the tank was burned pretty badly. The heavy smell may have been because the propane didn't disperse. |
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Same thing at my vacation house, 80% max. Quoted:
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Tanks can only be filled to 90% to allow for expansion. They overfilled and then vented 10%. It is heavier than air and will settle to ground and dissapate rather quickly. Just avoid open flames... My propane company will only do 80% Same thing at my vacation house, 80% max. . Above ground tank is generally 82% or less, underground tank is 80 to 89%. Tanks can be configured several different ways. |