Posted: 2/14/2016 12:16:38 PM EDT
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When the detachment went down to the water planet....
How did the mass and gravity effect time for them? How did the mass and gravity of a planet larger (I don't remember how much larger) than earth not pin them in their seats? More questions may follow. |
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Asking questions about this stupid movie will only lead to more confusion. I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. If we go to an other planet that is smaller like Mars. Will the effect be opposite? Should we find a way to land on another terrestrial planet in our solar system will our astronauts experience the same effects? |
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. |
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Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. Quoted:
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. It did. Being in outer space they knew it would affect time. That's why he was giving the watch to Murph. Time was just affected more b/c they were so much closer to the black hole. |
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I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. Quoted:
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Asking questions about this stupid movie will only lead to more confusion. I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. Larger planet, moar Gravity... They didn't really account for this.. As for the time dilation.. It is only noticeable from on outside observer's point of view. Being near a massive object or traveling at relativistic speeds will change the rate at which time passes, but the people actually near the object or at speed experance time as normal. It only changes for an outside observer. |
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It did. Being in outer space they knew it would affect time. That's why he was giving the watch to Murph. Time was just affected more b/c they were so much closer to the black hole. Quoted:
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. It did. Being in outer space they knew it would affect time. That's why he was giving the watch to Murph. Time was just affected more b/c they were so much closer to the black hole. Hence the mega waves. Super tidal forces causing huge waves instead of gradual sea level changes. I need to watch it again. |
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Larger planet, moar Gravity... They didn't really account for this.. As for the time dilation.. It is only noticeable from on outside observer's point of view. Being near a massive object or traveling at relativistic speeds will change the rate at which time passes, but the people actually near the object or at speed experance time as normal. It only changes for an outside observer. Quoted:
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Asking questions about this stupid movie will only lead to more confusion. I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. Larger planet, moar Gravity... They didn't really account for this.. As for the time dilation.. It is only noticeable from on outside observer's point of view. Being near a massive object or traveling at relativistic speeds will change the rate at which time passes, but the people actually near the object or at speed experance time as normal. It only changes for an outside observer. Being in orbit at essentially microgravity will have minimal effect on the crew of the ship. However the landing party experienced the effects, but didn't feel them or notice them until they were back in orbit. So each party was an observer from their perspectives. Neather knew or felt the effects (other than theory) untill they met back up. |
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Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. Quoted:
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. Because the ship was further away from the black hole than the planet was. |
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. This. Gravity effects light. Light is a unit of measurement that is constant unless strong gravity from black hole pulls it. Hence the "C" in E=MC2. C being the speed of light. an objects speed effects time only for that object. |
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Had to explain this a few days ago to the sammich maker.
Think of it like this, As you sit and look at a red sheet of paper what you see is red because that is the color of light reflected back off the paper. It moves at the speed of light (C) 200+ thousand feet per second. If you move away from the sheet looking at it the closer you get to C the longer it takes the light to reach you. In theory if you move at the speed of C time for you will stop as the light can't catch up to you. |
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Had to explain this a few days ago to the sammich maker. Think of it like this, As you sit and look at a red sheet of paper what you see is red because that is the color of light reflected back off the paper. It moves at the speed of light (C) 200+ thousand feet per second. If you move away from the sheet looking at it the closer you get to C the longer it takes the light to reach you. In theory if you move at the speed of C time for you will stop as the light can't catch up to you. I bet she is still confused... |
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I bet she is still confused... Quoted:
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Had to explain this a few days ago to the sammich maker. Think of it like this, As you sit and look at a red sheet of paper what you see is red because that is the color of light reflected back off the paper. It moves at the speed of light (C) 200+ thousand feet per second. If you move away from the sheet looking at it the closer you get to C the longer it takes the light to reach you. In theory if you move at the speed of C time for you will stop as the light can't catch up to you. I bet she is still confused... Nah she got it pretty quick. The airplane and rotary wing explanation a few months ago took her a while to get though. |
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I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. If we go to an other planet that is smaller like Mars. Will the effect be opposite? Should we find a way to land on another terrestrial planet in our solar system will our astronauts experience the same effects? Quoted:
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Asking questions about this stupid movie will only lead to more confusion. I enjoyed it. I was only confused with this "theory" of gravity's effect on time in they manner they portrayed it. If we go to an other planet that is smaller like Mars. Will the effect be opposite? Should we find a way to land on another terrestrial planet in our solar system will our astronauts experience the same effects? Short answer: whoever wrote the movie doesn't understand time dilation. As to the movie explanation, is was supposed to be affected by the black hole, I think. As far as the gravity on the planet. yes, different planets have a different gravity. Mars is like a third of Earths, iirc. If you're asking if there will be any significant type of time dilation from other planets, no. For an effect like in the movie they'd probably have to be on a neutron star or something... and that would likely be a one way trip. |
| The "bigger planet equals more gravity" isn't that simple. It's a matter of density, not size. If the core of the planet wasn't that dense, then it would have that much more gravity. Compare a brick on a bed, versus a pillow. The brick is smaller but heavier (more dense) so it sinks into the bed (gravity) more than the larger pillow. |
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The black hole that the planet was nearby is what caused time to dilate so much. If the black hole was somewhere else, then time on the planet would have been almost as fast as on earth. Mass warps the fabric of space, the more mass, the more warp. Being next to a blackhole vastly warped time near the planet. |
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Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. Quoted:
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I seem to remember that the planet was close to a black hole. It was the gravity of the black hole that altered time and not the gravity of the planet. Then why not the ship in orbit? Im more interested in the explanation of the theory and how it was applied to the movie. I understand exactly what you are saying, and I also thought that was a little confusing and possibly broken in the story. It seemed like the distance between "being affected by the black hole" and not being affected by it was a very short distance. The planet was being affected, but the nearby mothership felt no affects. Almost like there was a line drawn in space, rather than a gradual increase in time relativity. That said, Interstellar is one of my favorite movies of all time. Loved it. |
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How long would I need to hang out on Jupiter so that I can come back to Earth in a time far removed from this one? Pretty much have to hang out a time far removed from this one. It wasn't the planet, it was the black hole that warped time. The planet was close to the black hole. |