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1/23/2016 10:32:25 AM EDT
I have lots of things I would like to do, they require effort.  It's easy for me to get distracted. Easy to sit in the chair and have just one more cup of coffee and read GD instead of getting up and doing the work. The other day a friend said some words to me that kind of worked. Nothing special just something like "your life is your time" or something like that. For whatever reason, it worked. I'm kind of charged at the moment. I would like to spend a lot more of my time like this. I'm wondering if there is an organization, book, meetings, or whatever that tends to really work.  Any good ideas? Thanks.  Maybe I'll take all of the suggestions and go through them like a list until I hit something that works for me.  Reading The Art of War and Book of Five Rings used to really have an effect, not so much anymore.
1/23/2016 10:38:59 AM EDT
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Life is full of choices. Chose to get off your ass and do something instead of surfing this damn place all day.
1/23/2016 10:44:33 AM EDT
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Adderall
1/23/2016 10:45:59 AM EDT
[#3]
Yet here you are....

Go outside.
1/23/2016 10:47:45 AM EDT
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1/23/2016 11:22:47 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear that. I am lucky I don't like how drugs make me feel. If I do the Adderall, the doc gave me I get a lot of stuff done.
1/23/2016 11:46:51 AM EDT
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I'm not totally opposed to whatever works, if that's adderall. But I do well if I just find the right spark to get me started. I'm doing lots today, not just checking this thread now and then. Cleaning my room at the moment.



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Sorry to hear that. I am lucky I don't like how drugs make me feel. If I do the Adderall, the doc gave me I get a lot of stuff done.
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Sorry to hear that. I am lucky I don't like how drugs make me feel. If I do the Adderall, the doc gave me I get a lot of stuff done.

1/23/2016 11:48:27 AM EDT
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My mom was addicted to adderall. It ruined her life


Sorry to hear that. I am lucky I don't like how drugs make me feel. If I do the Adderall, the doc gave me I get a lot of stuff done.



Your room? Still live with your parents?
1/23/2016 11:57:21 AM EDT
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Look up straight legless on you tube
1/23/2016 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Check out the motivational film "The Big Lebowski"

1/23/2016 12:04:33 PM EDT
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Are you counting the days or making the days count?

“If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as a Michaelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.” -- this has driven me all my days. While in the USN it was my job at one time to clean the shitters and showers in the school staff locker room each day. Apparently I cleaned it better than anyone had ever cleaned it. My chief told me keep cleaning the place this good and you can take the afternoons off while everyone else continued to toil. Fair enough. A hole came open in a class and the chief put me into that class four weeks earlier than my billet was scheduled.

Aboard ship rather than play spades I opened the system diagrams and studied them front to back tracing the critical path of signals. During one big exercise the system failed while the CO, XO, and DH were all in the space to observe. While my seniors when running around like chickens with their heads cut off just trying to find the right diagram in the document library I started walking the critical path that I had memorized ... and very quickly found the piece of equipment who's lights weren't blinking, wiggled the cable in the back restoring the system. When it came time to send someone to an advanced school, something that normally would have gone to the most senior person, they sent me instead.

Two examples where being motivated paid off increasing the slope of my advancement and career.
1/23/2016 12:14:32 PM EDT
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all it really takes is saying to yourself "i am going to get up off my ass and do this task".

that said, it's easy to sit here and click away on arf...

Its not even noon here, and I've already got the walkways cleared, the 4runner dug out, been out to top off the gas in the vehicle and pick up extra gas for the generator, gone out snowshoeing and taken some pictures (or tried to anyway), and done a few other chores.

headed off to reload some 9mm and hopefully 45 shortly...

1/23/2016 12:20:44 PM EDT
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Part of it is the waning of testosterone.

other than that.

"if it is to be, it is up to me" always seemed to work for me.
1/23/2016 12:23:18 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear that. I am lucky I don't like how drugs make me feel. If I do the Adderall, the doc gave me I get a lot of stuff done.



Advocate spark. One in the morning before work and you won't be able to come home and sit on the couch after. It isn't a jittery energy, just a motivation kind of energy.
1/23/2016 12:40:29 PM EDT
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I believe most people fail because they never get started.  They are incapable of overcoming the inertia of "one daY"
1/23/2016 12:49:50 PM EDT
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It's not a motivation problem, you need to learn discipline. You don't need special words or feels to get shit done. You need to do shit because it needs to be done and will make your life better because of it. Motivation is for women and Facebook. Discipline is for men.
Edit: your last sentence says all I need to know, you indeed have a discipline problem , not motivation. Take a moment and ponder on that, look up the difference between the two and thank me later.
1/23/2016 1:21:48 PM EDT
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It's not a motivation problem, you need to learn discipline. You don't need special words or feels to get shit done. You need to do shit because it needs to be done and will make your life better because of it. Motivation is for women and Facebook. Discipline is for men.
Edit: your last sentence says all I need to know, you indeed have a discipline problem , not motivation. Take a moment and ponder on that, look up the difference between the two and thank me later.
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So how does someone get discipline without motivation?  How do you practice discipline if you have no discipline?
1/23/2016 1:25:09 PM EDT
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I've found that it gets worse as I get older.


1/23/2016 2:14:11 PM EDT
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So how does someone get discipline without motivation?  How do you practice discipline if you have no discipline?
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google works well.  You practice discipline by not being an emotional ladyboy who needs quotes and tumblr pages to get excited about doing things to make your life better. Seems pretty straightforward to me, being unmotivated and undisciplined has netted negative results , conversely taking on discipline commands results simply by its nature.
1/23/2016 2:18:29 PM EDT
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Are you counting the days or making the days count?



"If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as a Michaelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.” -- this has driven me all my days. While in the USN it was my job at one time to clean the shitters and showers in the school staff locker room each day. Apparently I cleaned it better than anyone had ever cleaned it. My chief told me keep cleaning the place this good and you can take the afternoons off while everyone else continued to toil. Fair enough. A hole came open in a class and the chief put me into that class four weeks earlier than my billet was scheduled.



Aboard ship rather than play spades I opened the system diagrams and studied them front to back tracing the critical path of signals. During one big exercise the system failed while the CO, XO, and DH were all in the space to observe. While my seniors when running around like chickens with their heads cut off just trying to find the right diagram in the document library I started walking the critical path that I had memorized ... and very quickly found the piece of equipment who's lights weren't blinking, wiggled the cable in the back restoring the system. When it came time to send someone to an advanced school, something that normally would have gone to the most senior person, they sent me instead.



Two examples where being motivated paid off increasing the slope of my advancement and career.
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remove ship, add F18 and cool bang bang shit..  add me figuring shit out..  multiply shitbag SSgt writes himself up for my work and gets a NAM..  it literally read out the exact thing that i fixed ...




you had better leaders.
1/23/2016 2:23:24 PM EDT
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OP, make a list of basic stuff, starting with the simple but exceedingly important things in life.

#1:  Wake up and make your bed.

#2:  Fold your laundry and put it away.

#3:  Have all dishes washed and put away.

Etc....Etc.....

You are caught in meaningless ruts.  The simple things seem hard.

Start with basics.  Basics that your not only can, but WILL accomplish.

Let those things become habit and your dreams will increase in size.
1/23/2016 2:26:30 PM EDT
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Spent 12 years working nights with little interaction, other then negatives, with my bosses. They never saw me helping residents run codes or teaching a fellow how to run a ventilator. Never saw me take students to teach. I got a day shift slot that I had previously been avoiding. I've still been going toe-to-toe with superiors but now I get to do so with the attendings who actually let me show them what I am doing and why. After a few of them praised me to my bosses, the bosses finally realized I wasn't a confrontational shitbag (just confrontational as a baseline, I know when I am right) and was willing to teach and show what will work I just got offered a nice promotion that gets me out of the dreary day to day and gives me a lot of latitude.

Honestly, I'm pretty scared of the position. It's a lot of weight being put on me.
1/23/2016 2:26:44 PM EDT
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Just start doing shit when you think of it.  Don't give yourself time to talk yourself into putting it off and being lazy.  
Theres nothing I hate more than having a bunch of shit on my plate (at work, school, or even my hobbies) i hate being behind on anything and that's my driving force.

I'd rather do every god damn thing right now so my time later is wide open for whatever.  The only projects I have at arent finished are ones I can't afford to finish right now.  Work hard now so you can fuck off later.
1/23/2016 2:37:12 PM EDT
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Huh, you are absolutely right. I can't believe I missed that.

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It's not a motivation problem, you need to learn discipline. You don't need special words or feels to get shit done. You need to do shit because it needs to be done and will make your life better because of it. Motivation is for women and Facebook. Discipline is for men.
Edit: your last sentence says all I need to know, you indeed have a discipline problem , not motivation. Take a moment and ponder on that, look up the difference between the two and thank me later.
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1/23/2016 2:41:21 PM EDT
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It's not a motivation problem, you need to learn discipline. You don't need special words or feels to get shit done. You need to do shit because it needs to be done and will make your life better because of it. Motivation is for women and Facebook. Discipline is for men.
Edit: your last sentence says all I need to know, you indeed have a discipline problem , not motivation. Take a moment and ponder on that, look up the difference between the two and thank me later.
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Excellent post.  Discipline is indeed for Men, or Producers regardless of sex.  

It's tough to get a 12 year old "motivated" to take out the trash.  It's much easier to teach him the "discipline" to do so.
1/23/2016 2:46:55 PM EDT
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google works well.  You practice discipline by not being an emotional ladyboy who needs quotes and tumblr pages to get excited about doing things to make your life better. Seems pretty straightforward to me, being unmotivated and undisciplined has netted negative results , conversely taking on discipline commands results simply by its nature.
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So how does someone get discipline without motivation?  How do you practice discipline if you have no discipline?

google works well.  You practice discipline by not being an emotional ladyboy who needs quotes and tumblr pages to get excited about doing things to make your life better. Seems pretty straightforward to me, being unmotivated and undisciplined has netted negative results , conversely taking on discipline commands results simply by its nature.


Show us on the doll where Tony Robbins touched you.


Eta:  Just like with personal finance, for a lot of people to get their shit fixed, they need emotional rewards and help, hence the success of Dave Ramsey.  I agree discipline is the underlying factor to long term success.  Let me use a real life example of where both can be useful.  After selling most of my businesses to stay at home with my son, I also took on mentoring vets getting into business for themselves, it can be overwhelming to start a new business and sometimes you need that emotional boost to keep moving forward.    Recently had a Marine vet who started a tile/carpet cleaning business, finally got big enough to hire a guy and buy another truck.  Corporate customer didn't pay on time so missed an equipment payment and couldn't pay his guy so had to sell personal stuff to the pawn shop and started doubting himself, was really down, a little motivation was needed to get him back on track.
1/23/2016 3:02:52 PM EDT
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I spent the last 8 months or so dealing with our rental properties and making them renter ready. The last 2 months of that I kind of turned into a work zombie. I pued long hard days right up until the last day before getting surgery to fix a shoulder. My wing is no longer completely busted, but it's easy to sit around too much.
Very good suggestions here, thanks.