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1/22/2016 1:31:23 PM EDT
FML, I'm getting sent to MA.






As a firearms enthusiast and a big supporter of 2a, I'm not happy about this in the least. I have a handful of NFA items (SBR's and Suppressor's). I'm fairly certain that I can't bring these with me. I'm going to make arrangements for them to stay in VA with my folks for however long it may be.


I'm guessing that CCW is out of the picture as well?




Since my NFA items will reside in a safe in VA, do I need a second safe when I get to MA? Are there laws about securing your firearms?




Also, is a SKS good to go? I also own a FAL that I bought during the assault weapon ban. I never debanned it. I'm curious about its legality up there. Im figuring that I'll be bringing my bolt guns and that's about it up there.




Do you guys have a FOID card or a derivative of sorts?




What is the hunting like as well.




I don't want to move but it's not an option.




Thanks in advance.


1/22/2016 1:32:07 PM EDT
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His name was JoeCoastie.....
1/22/2016 1:36:08 PM EDT
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As a recent MA transplant, I believe SBRs are ok, suppressors on the other hand are not. The AWB is still in place here. CCW is allowed, just highly dependent on the town that you live in. Yes, there are laws about securing your firearm and having it unloaded unless under your direct control. I don't know enough to speak on the SKS or FAL. There are FOID cards, or you can get a license to carry. I'll PM you some info on this shortly.
1/22/2016 1:39:31 PM EDT
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You're phucked.

You can bring in your compliant firearms, but you only have 90 days to get your ltc before becoming a felon.

Not all cities will give you a unrestricted ltc and even fewer will process it under 90.

Don't say a word about firearms to anyone, and if you get your ltc first then bring in guns they must be registered with the state. Unless of course they came in with you.

Again, you're phucked.
1/22/2016 1:41:57 PM EDT
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Anytime the people of your State are collectively known as "Massholes " by everyone else, well, there it is.
1/22/2016 1:42:20 PM EDT
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Live aross the border in NH.
1/22/2016 1:43:00 PM EDT
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1/22/2016 1:43:23 PM EDT
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1/22/2016 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Where?
1/22/2016 1:45:38 PM EDT
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you cant buy new glocks.

you can buy neutered ar,s though
1/22/2016 1:46:47 PM EDT
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PM sent
1/22/2016 1:47:01 PM EDT
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I would commute if at all possible.
MA is a terrible, terrible place. I get the fits if I have to cross that border!
1/22/2016 1:47:30 PM EDT
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.
1/22/2016 1:47:35 PM EDT
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This. MA isn't big enough that the commute would deter me. I'm not volunteering to love behind the iron curtain. 2 hr commute? fine by me. Of course, not moving anywhere near MA would be the real choice...
1/22/2016 1:47:47 PM EDT
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They're not called Massholes fer nothin'.
1/22/2016 1:48:06 PM EDT
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i drive through all the time. its not a bad state, just has asshole people near the city's and fucked up laws .
1/22/2016 1:48:49 PM EDT
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I grew up in MA and then moved around a bit as an adult.

New England is, in my mind, a great place to have a family.

Great schools, Great medical, stupid laws...

lots of history and cool stuff to do/see so make the best of it.
1/22/2016 1:48:59 PM EDT
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.

which is the most retarded law out there. no glocks? really?
1/22/2016 1:49:53 PM EDT
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the hunting is ok there, but you will find better hunting in Maine and New Hampshire, which is certainly close enough
1/22/2016 1:50:03 PM EDT
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As one example, in my old hometown pretty far to the west, a friend had his guns confiscated because the police noticed a broken window when they were called to the home due to complaints about noise form the neighbors, so they thought they should investigate inside.  They found firearms not properly secured, so he had to turn them all in to the police then pay for months of storage until he went to court and got them back.

In another case, a co-workers brother in law was not allowed to take in foster kids because he had guns in the house.  He had to transfer them to my co-worker before foster care allowed him to take children in.
1/22/2016 1:50:28 PM EDT
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SBRs perfectly legal
Suppressors are not legal, although there is a bill in right now to make them legal.
ALL rifles have to conform to the AWB ( same as the 1994 federal ) anything pre fed AWB is grandfathered.
MAGs limited to 10 rounds unless grandfathered pre-94
Machine guns legal if you have a machine gun permit, to get that you have to be a bonified collector, C&R fulfills that.
Need a permit just to possess ammo, ammo parts, handguns, rifles or shotguns.
That permit is may issue.
That permit is not given by some town chiefs. What town you live in depends on whether you get a permit or not and if you do, whether you can conceal carry or not.

WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE IN REALLY MATTERS. I can not stress that enough.

go to northeastshooters.com and there is a listing under MA laws that show what towns have chiefs that are gun friendly and which ones do no. Do not move to a non-gun friendly town.

Read this

https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/56054-MOVING-to-Massachusetts-Read-Here-First!


and this about towns.

https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/8703-Guide-to-gun-rights-in-your-Massachusetts-town?highlight=green+towns

Anything you bring into the state with you when you move does not need to be registered. Anything you make or acquire after you are a MA resident must e registered.

1/22/2016 1:50:50 PM EDT
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Eject Joe!  Seriously Boston is a fine place to VISIT for a week, but no way could I live there  (this is coming from a guy that grew up in CT and has friends and relatives in MA).   Live in NH, VT, or even RI if at all possible.
1/22/2016 1:51:56 PM EDT
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.

1/22/2016 1:52:08 PM EDT
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It sucks hard.
1/22/2016 1:53:13 PM EDT
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.

which is the most retarded law out there. no glocks? really?


I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.
1/22/2016 1:53:25 PM EDT
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Good idea....NH is cheaper anyway.
1/22/2016 1:53:56 PM EDT
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northeastshooters.com
1/22/2016 1:54:51 PM EDT
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.



Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.
1/22/2016 1:54:55 PM EDT
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

The Bow deer season is long mid Oct to end of Nov, then 2 weeks of shotgun, then 2 weeks of black powder.

No rifle season.

CCW depends on what town you live in.

What part of the state are you moving to?
1/22/2016 1:54:58 PM EDT
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I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.

which is the most retarded law out there. no glocks? really?


I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.

my boss lives in MA, he had no idea about the glock crap till he tried to buy one. he wanted to scream the next day
1/22/2016 1:55:46 PM EDT
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Came here to post this.

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1/22/2016 1:55:53 PM EDT
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

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the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it
1/22/2016 1:55:59 PM EDT
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you cant buy new glocks.



right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.



Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.


It is mostly accurate. If the handgun is not on the list a dealer will not transfer it to you. If you can find one FTF, then you can buy it.
1/22/2016 1:56:01 PM EDT
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Good luck.
1/22/2016 1:58:25 PM EDT
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Are you in the military (I see your tank)  and have no choice? Otherwise, I would strongly consider looking at other employment. If you have been used to Virginia, then you are going to hate that bastion of liberal ignorance known as Massachusetts.
1/22/2016 1:58:32 PM EDT
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Fuck all that nonsense. I'll just move my stuff to VA and live with my Bow.



I grew up in VA. Lived in GA for four years and been in KY for years. Guess I'll know both sides of the fence now.
1/22/2016 1:58:43 PM EDT
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I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.

which is the most retarded law out there. no glocks? really?


I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.


Sorry but your votes do not count for shit in MA. As of 2015 there were roughly 385,000 unique ltc and fid holders.
385k in a state of nearly 7 million. That leaves you with 6.5 million msnbc viewers dictating how the Commonwealth should be run.
1/22/2016 1:58:49 PM EDT
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What happened with Glocks?
1/22/2016 1:59:53 PM EDT
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There are laws about securing firearms, but trigger locks are gtg in your house in that regard.

They can be stored locked up loaded or unloaded or they can be under your direct control.

Those are the 2 options. Illegal to leave unsecured weapons around the house. A locked closet counts as secured, but a locked house does not.

Giving someone that does not have a permit the key or combo to the secured weapons is a felony for the permit holder and the people given illegal access and has been tested in the courts.
1/22/2016 2:01:41 PM EDT
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Fuck all that nonsense. I'll just move my stuff to VA and live with my Bow.

I grew up in VA. Lived in GA for four years and been in KY for years. Guess I'll know both sides of the fence now.
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Exactly.  Leave everything in VA and buy yourself a nice 870 for home protection.  

What town are you going to be in?  Commuting not an option?
1/22/2016 2:01:45 PM EDT
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Sorry but your votes do not count for shit in MA. As of 2015 there were roughly 385,000 unique ltc and fid holders.
385k in a state of nearly 7 million. That leaves you with 6.5 million msnbc viewers dictating how the Commonwealth should be run.
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I agree, the laws here are stupid. I think it's something along the lines of Manufacturers having to submit guns and pay for testing in order to verify that they meet MA compliance laws. A lot of manufacturers, even ones in state, don't play ball with that and aren't interested in being approved. As much as I understand everyone saying to live out of state, we do need people to remain in state and vote correctly. We can't all shirk our responsibilities and continue to hand things over to the antis.


Sorry but your votes do not count for shit in MA. As of 2015 there were roughly 385,000 unique ltc and fid holders.
385k in a state of nearly 7 million. That leaves you with 6.5 million msnbc viewers dictating how the Commonwealth should be run.


I suppose we should just give up on everything we want. Thank you for sharing those inspiring words.

I'm not under the impression that it's close, but I believe in taking responsibility.
1/22/2016 2:01:57 PM EDT
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you cant buy new glocks.



right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.



Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.


Correct on mag capacity, but inaccurate on the "not getting it unless it's on the roster". Nothing is illegal about you transferring in non-awb pistols that are not on the list.
1/22/2016 2:02:14 PM EDT
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the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

The Bow deer season is long mid Oct to end of Nov, then 2 weeks of shotgun, then 2 weeks of black powder.

No rifle season.

CCW depends on what town you live in.

What part of the state are you moving to?

the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it


None of the laws make any sense.

No rifle hunting for deer.

But I can take an AR15 and a 30 round mag and hunt coyote all day long.
1/22/2016 2:02:47 PM EDT
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None of the laws make any sense.

No rifle hunting for deer.

But I can take an AR15 and a 30 round mag and hunt coyote all day long.
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

The Bow deer season is long mid Oct to end of Nov, then 2 weeks of shotgun, then 2 weeks of black powder.

No rifle season.

CCW depends on what town you live in.

What part of the state are you moving to?

the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it


None of the laws make any sense.

No rifle hunting for deer.

But I can take an AR15 and a 30 round mag and hunt coyote all day long.


at night even
1/22/2016 2:03:51 PM EDT
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Where is your job in Mass? There isn't much in mass that's really too far to drive from NH, until you're almost down by Rhode Island. Salem, the coast, and Nashua are great cities/areas to commute from.
1/22/2016 2:04:05 PM EDT
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what town?
1/22/2016 2:04:08 PM EDT
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It is mostly accurate. If the handgun is not on the list a dealer will not transfer it to you. If you can find one FTF, then you can buy it.
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you cant buy new glocks.



right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.



Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.


It is mostly accurate. If the handgun is not on the list a dealer will not transfer it to you. If you can find one FTF, then you can buy it.


Or you can just find what you want on gunbroker and have a dealer take the transfer of it. Fill out your 4473 and take it home.
1/22/2016 2:05:19 PM EDT
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Correct on mag capacity, but inaccurate on the "not getting it unless it's on the roster". Nothing is illegal about you transferring in non-awb pistols that are not on the list.
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right, if you want any pistols that are not on the MA approved pistol roster, buy them now and bring them with you when you move. no mags with capacities >10 rounds unless they were made pre-ban.


Not accurate.



Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.


Correct on mag capacity, but inaccurate on the "not getting it unless it's on the roster". Nothing is illegal about you transferring in non-awb pistols that are not on the list.



Unless C&R, all handgun transfers from out of state must go through an FFL.

The FFLs can only transfer handguns on the approved list.

If it isn't on the list, an FFL is not going to transfer it.

He should buy whatever handguns he wants before he moves to the state and bring them in.
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

The Bow deer season is long mid Oct to end of Nov, then 2 weeks of shotgun, then 2 weeks of black powder.

No rifle season.

CCW depends on what town you live in.

What part of the state are you moving to?

the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it


None of the laws make any sense.

No rifle hunting for deer.

But I can take an AR15 and a 30 round mag and hunt coyote all day long.


at night even


No.

Night hunting is limited to caliber no greater than .22
1/22/2016 2:06:35 PM EDT
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Please elaborate. I'd like to be corrected.


Correct on mag capacity, but inaccurate on the "not getting it unless it's on the roster". Nothing is illegal about you transferring in non-awb pistols that are not on the list.



That is correct. Availability of the privately transferred non-roster pistols is limited and costs can reflect that. It would be easier to buy before becoming an MA resident.


Edit: I missed the part about transferring in, that can't be done as it would need to go through an FFL.
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Hunting depends on how you hunt.

The Bow deer season is long mid Oct to end of Nov, then 2 weeks of shotgun, then 2 weeks of black powder.

No rifle season.

CCW depends on what town you live in.

What part of the state are you moving to?

the no rifle season is mind boggling . each surrounding state allows it


None of the laws make any sense.

No rifle hunting for deer.

But I can take an AR15 and a 30 round mag and hunt coyote all day long.


at night even


No.

Night hunting is limited to caliber no greater than .22


but you can hunt at night
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