[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The Revenant (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/9/2016 1:53:21 AM EDT
| Just got back from watching The Revenant. I have been stoked about the release of this movie for quite some time. I don't want to give away to many spoilers, but the story line isn't even close to the book or Hugh Glass's biography and real life experience. I left disappointed due to the story line. It did have some good parts like the scenery, it was fantastic. |
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I wonder if Bridger's near-death experience with Glass is what made him into the man he became. Pretty incredible guy. In real life I'm sure it did. Everything (almost) is named for Bridger here in Wyoming. The true story of Hugh Glass is after the bear attack and abandonment he had the intention of killing both. He found Bridger first and realized that Bridger was just a boy and forgave him. He didn't kill Fitzgerald either, but he wanted to. A few years later Hugh Glass was killed by the Arikara when he was out hunting. The man had bad luck when it came to that tribe. They really didn't like each other. Glass was originally a mariner/sailor and was captured by Pirates. He and another man escaped in the Gulf of Mexico and went through present day Texas and had to avoid the cannibal tribes along the coast. They headed North and made it to present day Kansas/Nebraska where they were captured by the Loup RIver Pawnee. The Pawnee practiced human sacrifice and Glass's companion was killed/sacrificed. The Chief of the tribe adopted Glass and he lived with the Pawnee for several years. The Chief was invited to St. Louis and Glass accompanied him. Glass decided to stay and then went up the Missouri River on a trapping expedition where this famous story starts. They were in a major battle with the Arikara while headed up the Missouri. After the famous bear attack/journey by Glass he and another man (maybe 2) ventured down the front range of the Big Horn Mountain and built a bull boat near present day Casper. They floated down the North Platte river and near present day Lingle, WY they came across the Arikara and only Glass escaped with his life. Other travelers up the Platte would mention the bones along the bank of the Platte that were Glass's companions killed by the Rees. There's more, but I would need to get the history books out to refresh my memory, but he was one incredible man. |
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The movie was incredible. The opening battle scene rivals the intensity of the storming of the beach in Saving Private Ryan.
I feel like Tom Hardy had to of studied Barnes from Platoon for his role, the similarites were too strong. This movie should be on the top of every ARFCOMERS list. |
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Jim Bridger has a pretty damn interesting story himself and he spoke a few Indian languages Old Gabe as he was called most certainly had an interesting story. He was one of a few Mountain Men that stayed in the Rocky Mountains. A lot of the fur trappers ventured west into Oregon and California after the beaver were trapped out and not in demand. Some went back south to Taos like Kit Carson. Jim Bridger stayed in Wyoming until he health started deteriorating (he went blind) and his family took him home to Missouri. Read his biography if anyone can get a chance (along with the Hugh Glass biography). |
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd.
Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing. 
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks 
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks Arfcom never fails to deliver in movie threads. FWIW Glass was pretty invincible. |
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks I fucking hate hipsters. |
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks I really feel bad for you. Seriously. Some people could look at the mona lisa and say its shit. |
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks are you sure you were watching the right movie? I'm gonna see it a second time. Great movie.
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I feel like Tom Hardy had to of studied Barnes from Platoon for his role, the similarites were too strong. That was the first thing I thought. I kept expecting Platoon quotes. "Talking about killing? Y'all experts? Y'all know about killing? I'd like to hear about it, potheads." The cinematography was awesome. I saw it on a huge 66ft screen with a digital projector and Dolby Atmos sound system overseas. The director could have cut out all the floating dead wife and symbolism shit - it was a bit self indulgent. |
| Hardy did a fantastic job with his character. There could have been other actors that played Hugh Glass better Decaprio pulled it off, but I feel like it could have been cast much better. All I could think of when Decaprio had his shirt off was seeing his pencil stick arms from his vegetarian diet was they should have cast someone that at least looks tough. |
Saw it last night. I honestly don't know anything about the real Hugh Glass or his story so I don't know how close the movie is to the real deal (it's a movie tho, they're never close). But as for the movie itself, it was fucking awesome. It was brutal and there was more than a few parts my wife couldn't watch but I couldn't look away. Great movie. 
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That was the first thing I thought. I kept expecting Platoon quotes. "Talking about killing? Y'all experts? Y'all know about killing? I'd like to hear about it, potheads." The cinematography was awesome. I saw it on a huge 66ft screen with a digital projector and Dolby Atmos sound system overseas. The director could have cut out all the floating dead wife and symbolism shit - it was a bit self indulgent. Quoted:
I feel like Tom Hardy had to of studied Barnes from Platoon for his role, the similarites were too strong. That was the first thing I thought. I kept expecting Platoon quotes. "Talking about killing? Y'all experts? Y'all know about killing? I'd like to hear about it, potheads." The cinematography was awesome. I saw it on a huge 66ft screen with a digital projector and Dolby Atmos sound system overseas. The director could have cut out all the floating dead wife and symbolism shit - it was a bit self indulgent. Wow. 74 posts in 12 years..... |
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In real life I'm sure it did. Everything (almost) is named for Bridger here in Wyoming. The true story of Hugh Glass is after the bear attack and abandonment he had the intention of killing both. He found Bridger first and realized that Bridger was just a boy and forgave him. He didn't kill Fitzgerald either, but he wanted to. A few years later Hugh Glass was killed by the Arikara when he was out hunting. The man had bad luck when it came to that tribe. They really didn't like each other. Glass was originally a mariner/sailor and was captured by Pirates. He and another man escaped in the Gulf of Mexico and went through present day Texas and had to avoid the cannibal tribes along the coast. They headed North and made it to present day Kansas/Nebraska where they were captured by the Loup RIver Pawnee. The Pawnee practiced human sacrifice and Glass's companion was killed/sacrificed. The Chief of the tribe adopted Glass and he lived with the Pawnee for several years. The Chief was invited to St. Louis and Glass accompanied him. Glass decided to stay and then went up the Missouri River on a trapping expedition where this famous story starts. They were in a major battle with the Arikara while headed up the Missouri. After the famous bear attack/journey by Glass he and another man (maybe 2) ventured down the front range of the Big Horn Mountain and built a bull boat near present day Casper. They floated down the North Platte river and near present day Lingle, WY they came across the Arikara and only Glass escaped with his life. Other travelers up the Platte would mention the bones along the bank of the Platte that were Glass's companions killed by the Rees. There's more, but I would need to get the history books out to refresh my memory, but he was one incredible man. Quoted:
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I wonder if Bridger's near-death experience with Glass is what made him into the man he became. Pretty incredible guy. In real life I'm sure it did. Everything (almost) is named for Bridger here in Wyoming. The true story of Hugh Glass is after the bear attack and abandonment he had the intention of killing both. He found Bridger first and realized that Bridger was just a boy and forgave him. He didn't kill Fitzgerald either, but he wanted to. A few years later Hugh Glass was killed by the Arikara when he was out hunting. The man had bad luck when it came to that tribe. They really didn't like each other. Glass was originally a mariner/sailor and was captured by Pirates. He and another man escaped in the Gulf of Mexico and went through present day Texas and had to avoid the cannibal tribes along the coast. They headed North and made it to present day Kansas/Nebraska where they were captured by the Loup RIver Pawnee. The Pawnee practiced human sacrifice and Glass's companion was killed/sacrificed. The Chief of the tribe adopted Glass and he lived with the Pawnee for several years. The Chief was invited to St. Louis and Glass accompanied him. Glass decided to stay and then went up the Missouri River on a trapping expedition where this famous story starts. They were in a major battle with the Arikara while headed up the Missouri. After the famous bear attack/journey by Glass he and another man (maybe 2) ventured down the front range of the Big Horn Mountain and built a bull boat near present day Casper. They floated down the North Platte river and near present day Lingle, WY they came across the Arikara and only Glass escaped with his life. Other travelers up the Platte would mention the bones along the bank of the Platte that were Glass's companions killed by the Rees. There's more, but I would need to get the history books out to refresh my memory, but he was one incredible man. I need to dig back into American history |
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Hardy did a fantastic job with his character. There could have been other actors that played Hugh Glass better Decaprio pulled it off, but I feel like it could have been cast much better. All I could think of when Decaprio had his shirt off was seeing his pencil stick arms from his vegetarian diet was they should have cast someone that at least looks tough. Well, being trapped out there half chewed to death by a bear and nearly starving, I bet the real guy was a little skinny at that time too. 
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Well, being trapped out there half chewed to death by a bear and nearly starving, I bet the real guy was a little skinny at that time too. Quoted:
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Hardy did a fantastic job with his character. There could have been other actors that played Hugh Glass better Decaprio pulled it off, but I feel like it could have been cast much better. All I could think of when Decaprio had his shirt off was seeing his pencil stick arms from his vegetarian diet was they should have cast someone that at least looks tough. Well, being trapped out there half chewed to death by a bear and nearly starving, I bet the real guy was a little skinny at that time too. Good Point. 
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are you sure you were watching the right movie? I'm gonna see it a second time. Great movie.Quoted:
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks are you sure you were watching the right movie? I'm gonna see it a second time. Great movie.That's the new thing, we have to kill the "good". |
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That could be a mistake. This movie needs to be seen on a big screen. (Maybe you have a big tv...  )
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I'll wait for it to hit Redbox. That could be a mistake. This movie needs to be seen on a big screen. (Maybe you have a big tv... )
The sound is really good too. Agreed, it needs to be seen on the big screen. I don't like going to movie theaters, but this one was worth it. |
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I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing.
The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks There's always one, isn't there? 
Since no one else said it I will: Join date/post count Hand turn ya down for a quickie this mornin' BCM? |
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The movie was incredible. The opening battle scene rivals the intensity of the storming of the beach in Saving Private Ryan. I feel like Tom Hardy had to of studied Barnes from Platoon for his role, the similarites were too strong. This movie should be on the top of every ARFCOMERS list. I saw it last night and you're right, I caught that in the first couple of sentences. |
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the fake moose fake bear, fake wolves/buffalo was hard to overcome.
I also hate the extreme closeups of peoples faces for a minutes or more Stupid , no need for it Overall it was a good movie, the rest of the movie more than made up for the obvious fake stuff. As someone in another thread said "Wear a jacket to the theater, because it will make you feel cold." |
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great movie for the bear attack & indian attack alone, Hardy does steel the movie though.
if you want accuracy in a story read an original source book, movies are entertainment and shouldn't be looked at as anything else but either leftist propaganda or a 2 hour vacation from the evils of the world. those early mountain men were some really tough bastards. |
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JJ and The Mountain Men come in tied for 2d place, you cant beat "The Big Sky" for movies of this genre. Rev comes in a hair under JJ and MM Quoted:
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better than Jeremiah Johnson? JJ and The Mountain Men come in tied for 2d place, you cant beat "The Big Sky" for movies of this genre. Rev comes in a hair under JJ and MM gonna check out The Big Sky thanks... never heard of it. JJ is in my top ten flicks |
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Quoted: I just got back from the theater and The Revenant is a complete turd. Between the predictable plot, standard issue evil white man theme, and superhero invincible main character, I was ready to walk out. Cookie cutter Hollywood bullshit all around. 90% of the movie is footage of snow and DiCaprio breathing. The audio is obviously mismatched in every scene where an indian speaks |
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The movie was incredible. The opening battle scene rivals the intensity of the storming of the beach in Saving Private Ryan. I feel like Tom Hardy had to of studied Barnes from Platoon for his role, the similarites were too strong. This movie should be on the top of every ARFCOMERS list. I was thing Platoon the whole time. Great movie |
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gonna check out The Big Sky thanks... never heard of it. JJ is in my top ten flicks Quoted:
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better than Jeremiah Johnson? JJ and The Mountain Men come in tied for 2d place, you cant beat "The Big Sky" for movies of this genre. Rev comes in a hair under JJ and MM gonna check out The Big Sky thanks... never heard of it. JJ is in my top ten flicks The only place I have been able to find it is streaming. What is interesting is read about the filming of The Big Sky, and what they did to make the movie, and compare it to Revenant. |
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I'm a big fan of westerns, and especially movies from the Mountain Man era. But I was disappointed with Revenant. At least 90% of the movie it's foggy and raining, or snowing. Very dark and gloomy. Decaprios character survives a couple of fatal accidents, and makes a miraculous recovery each time.
The whole thing didn't hold a candle to Jerimiah Johnson or the Mountain Men, with one exception, the photography was better than what they had available 40 years ago. All in all I wish I'd have saved my money and waited for it to hit Netflix, I think it'll be there fairly soon. |
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Just got back. Amazing.
It was primal and so raw but also ethereal. The grit and action was totally in your face but at the same time the mood and emotion was driven by the subtleties and filming. DiCaprio and Hardy were phenomal and between this and Birdman, I've become a great fan of Inarritu. |
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Was I watching the same movie you guys saw? It got to the part where he was with the Pawnee Indian riding double and I got so bored I gave up. Never saw the rest. That part of the movie really irritated me because it was so historically inaccurate. In the book Glass comes across a Sioux warrior that helps him and he ultimately gives the bear claw necklace to him. In the movie that is suppose to be set in the Missouri River/Yellowstone River area of Montana or even Northwestern SD where the event really occurred there were no Pawnee Indians. The Pawnee were in southern Nebraska and Kansas during that time period and it just isn't a plausible event for the movie. They could have made him Crow, Sioux, Assiniboin, even a Blackfoot, Gros Ventre, Northern Cheyenne or Arapaho and it would have been much more believable. Then there was the way the Pawnee died.
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I thought everyone tromping around in water the entire movie was crazy. That's because it was crazy. Anybody with half a brain realized that these guys would be dead in short order if they were to get soaking wet in sub freezing conditions. Serious question: To those who thought this movie was great, did you enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies? |
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Was I watching the same movie you guys saw? It got to the part where he was with the Pawnee Indian riding double and I got so bored I gave up. Never saw the rest. No. It was slow, boring, and should have been an hour shorter. There was about 30 minutes of great cinematography buried in all the time wasting though. |