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12/22/2015 6:21:30 PM EDT
So I'm on vacation. Weather is kind of crappy so trapped inside and watching some episodes of "Cops". Still love that show. Man I have to tip my hat to you guys for enduring the shitload of stupidity out there. Cracks me up how everybody is an innocent victim, didn't doing anything wrong and doesn't have a clue how that crack, weed, or heroin got in their car or pockets. Lol!

Anyway, my question is why do so many still use full size D cell Maglight flashlights? Are they dept. issue and required equipment at some depts? Are they desired because they are heavy duty and large enough to serve as a secondary baton? It just struck me as odd with all the stuff you guys are burdened with carrying and the availability of compact powerful flashlights that some still use the large Maglights. I can understand the Maglight as a back up weapon though. Those things would leave a mark. Lol! What say you?
12/22/2015 6:24:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Mines not d cell it's rechargeable.

I've had the same lights for years and they (3 of them) work fine.

And yes, I have used mine as an impact weapon.

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12/22/2015 6:29:21 PM EDT
[#2]
I pulled out a vintage 4 D cell Maglite, put some new batteries in and it's almost like candlelight compared to my little CR123 Fenix.  The old days were tough.  That and no cell phones.
12/22/2015 6:31:44 PM EDT
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I pulled out a vintage 4 D cell Maglite, put some new batteries in and it's almost like candlelight compared to my little CR123 Fenix.  The old days were tough.  That and no cell phones.
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Yeah but it doesn't make the same sound.
12/22/2015 6:33:32 PM EDT
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So I'm on vacation. Weather is kind of crappy so trapped inside and watching some episodes of "Cops". Still love that show. Man I have to tip my hat to you guys for enduring the shitload of stupidity out there. Cracks me up how everybody is an innocent victim, didn't doing anything wrong and doesn't have a clue how that crack, weed, or heroin got in their car or pockets. Lol!

Anyway, my question is why do so many still use full size D cell Maglight flashlights? Are they dept. issue and required equipment at some depts? Are they desired because they are heavy duty and large enough to serve as a secondary baton? It just struck me as odd with all the stuff you guys are burdened with carrying and the availability of compact powerful flashlights that some still use the large Maglights. I can understand the Maglight as a back up weapon though. Those things would leave a mark. Lol! What say you?
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12/22/2015 6:36:48 PM EDT
[#5]
The big maglights were actually taken off the required equipment list this year. No one had really been following it since I came on, but was considered "by the book".

Fenix for me.
12/22/2015 6:38:29 PM EDT
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I pulled out a vintage 4 D cell Maglite, put some new batteries in and it's almost like candlelight compared to my little CR123 Fenix.  The old days were tough.  That and no cell phones.
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Malkoff dude.  Malkoff.  I like the C cell version.
Have 2C with cool XRE and warm XPG but need to sell cool and get 4c XML.
12/22/2015 6:43:13 PM EDT
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Mines not d cell it's rechargeable.
I've had the same lights for years and they (3 of them) work fine.
And yes, I have used mine as an impact weapon.
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I still use the Magcharger I bought in the early '90s.
12/22/2015 6:43:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Depts will vary as to how they will treat various equipment (issued or pvt purchase).

In my Dept., if it wasn't issued then it was a liability issue.  Not to mention, that the use of a flashlight, for other then what you were trained to use it for, was also an issue.  Running a tight ship is sometimes at odds with best performance.  Well anyway, liability is always a concern for the lawyers (on both sides).

Aloha, Mark

12/22/2015 6:46:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Most of the cops episodes are old so I wouldn't count on them for actualcurrent police equipment. We carry small lights on our belts and have a larger rechargeable in the car for extended incidents.
12/22/2015 6:46:07 PM EDT
[#10]
I still use D cell maglights.
They work, I see no reason to give them up.
12/22/2015 6:46:40 PM EDT
[#11]

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Cracks me up how everybody is an innocent victim, didn't doing anything wrong and doesn't have a clue how that crack, weed, or heroin got in their car or pockets. Lol!

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These aren't my pants
Megchargers with terralux upgrade are pretty awesome. And yes that knurled grip leaves marks.



 
12/22/2015 6:46:50 PM EDT
[#12]
'Ya gotta love that "doink" sound the hollow aluminum tube makes upon a solid impact, it is an acceptable alternative to the "smeck" or "donk" a wooden baton makes.  Asp batons just sound different. Of course there is always the "thwap" sound that a beaver tail sap makes...

Of course I never used a beaver tail sap on duty, but I did accompany another officer on an arrest where one was used.  I was wrestling around with the guy, and occasionally I would hear a "thwap", but the guy kept fighting.  the guy once said "Oh Momma, he hit me!", there was another "thwap" and the guy let out a little soft moan, and his muscles went soft for about a half second....just long enough for me to get the other half of the handcuffs attached behind the guys back.

Until I got to the jail, I didn' even realize that during the fight I had gotten impaled on 16 penny nail that was sticking out of a wall.  there was a little hole in my shirt, and a 4" blood spot.  the tetanus shot hurt worse than the nail wound in my side.   Old war stories....
12/22/2015 6:48:45 PM EDT
[#13]
My place use to issue them, I still have a few and do carry it now and then to bar fights ect.  It sits in the door jam of the car. They are still in our S.O.P's as an impact weapon.

12/22/2015 6:49:53 PM EDT
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So I'm on vacation. Weather is kind of crappy so trapped inside and watching some episodes of "Cops". Still love that show. Man I have to tip my hat to you guys for enduring the shitload of stupidity out there. Cracks me up how everybody is an innocent victim, didn't doing anything wrong and doesn't have a clue how that crack, weed, or heroin got in their car or pockets. Lol!



Anyway, my question is why do so many still use full size D cell Maglight flashlights? Are they dept. issue and required equipment at some depts? Are they desired because they are heavy duty and large enough to serve as a secondary baton? It just struck me as odd with all the stuff you guys are burdened with carrying and the availability of compact powerful flashlights that some still use the large Maglights. I can understand the Maglight as a back up weapon though. Those things would leave a mark. Lol! What say you?
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There is no  "Weather" in Washington state sufficiently crappy enough to watch  'COPS'.

 


12/22/2015 6:51:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Ever heard the term Rayovac whack? Mag lite saved my ass from a gun grab year ago. Guys hand and wrist not so much.
12/22/2015 6:52:00 PM EDT
[#16]
I keep a three cell Maglight in my patrol car and it always goes in my pocket at night.  I have better flashlights but after all these years I go with what I know works.
12/22/2015 6:55:59 PM EDT
[#17]
The only guys that I see still using the old D cell Maglights are guys who have been on a loooong time and work during the day.

FWIW my agency does not issue a flashlight.

I have been using a Surefire Lawman for the past few years and I love it.

12/22/2015 6:59:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Speaking of war stories....

We were just rookies on patrol.  My friend (Academy classmate) had come in with an arrest.  His flashlight (issued Ray-O-Vac, piece of $#@^) was obviously bent as if something had run it over.  He was submitting paperwork to replace his issued equipment.  Of course I asked him, "What happened?"  His response was that he had climbed up onto the lifeguard tower during the evening to get some unauthorized  people out of there.  One of them decided to take a swing at him.  He responded by swinging back.  Yup....he happened to have his flashlight in his hand at the time.  Resulting in a K.O. for the suspect and mounds of paperwork.  

It left me thinking that maybe, having Mag Lights issued to us would not work out so well.

Years later, I carried one.  They were not approved and I was told to get rid of it prior to the I.A. inspection.  Of course, after the inspection I was again carrying it.

My Mag Light was later regulated to home duty after we were issued rechargeable stinger plastic (belt sized) flashlights.  By then, the lights were a big improvement in brightness.

Aloha, Mark
12/22/2015 6:59:18 PM EDT
[#19]
There are a few SL20's with LED around here but it's been a while since I've seen a d cell or rechargeable maglight.  Streamlight Stinger DS is what a lot carry.
12/22/2015 7:14:54 PM EDT
[#20]
it does look like some of these are C cell lights.  Vary from 2, 4, 6 cell looking in length. Many or maybe all rechargeable. Some of these episodes are a couple years old. Some much older so I expect to see them in those. Some are new episodes though. The weapon role makes sense and would be effective. I'm certainly not criticizing anyone for choosing the larger lights. Just curious. I still keep a 2 and 4 cell with the Terra Lux (sp) upgrade handy. They do just keep working.
12/23/2015 12:28:36 AM EDT
[#21]
I think those old Maglite are banned by the LAPD, after being used to beat handcuffed persons.
They now have kinder gentler NAACP, ACLU, LA RAZA, SPLC, OSHA, AMA, PETA approved flashlights.
12/23/2015 12:31:43 AM EDT
[#22]
Those are probably old episodes prior to the LED revolution.
12/23/2015 12:44:26 AM EDT
[#23]
I used to use a 5 cell D cell light when I first started. Very heavy after a while. Switched to a Streamlight (C cell size). Later the
Dept. issued the small maglights.
12/23/2015 12:45:45 AM EDT
[#24]
5.11 recharchable
12/23/2015 12:47:53 AM EDT
[#25]
Upgraded to the led version of the streamlight SL20.   Size of the maglight, rechargeable, great brightness, etc.  Plus flashlights are still listed on our approved list of intermediate weapons.  Is in your hand on every traffic stop so always have something immediately available.
12/23/2015 12:52:34 AM EDT
[#26]
I was issued a full sized rechargeable mag light. It lives in my bag. I think I've used it twice when my strion died.
 
12/23/2015 12:57:06 AM EDT
[#27]
Ours doesn't issue lights anymore, so people buy whatever.  Mostly Streamlight stingers (mix of incan/LED), they were issued at one point.  The guys that carried Maglights have all retired, I think.
12/23/2015 12:57:18 AM EDT
[#28]
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Mines not d cell it's rechargeable.

I've had the same lights for years and they (3 of them) work fine.

And yes, I have used mine as an impact weapon.

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This.

I do carry a smaller Streamlight stinger rechargeable on my belt. One is none, two is one, kinda thing.
J-
12/23/2015 12:59:14 AM EDT
[#29]
I haven't seen anyone use those in a long time, but I am not paying that much attention.  They took ours away 4 or 5 years ago and gave us small Streamlights.