[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Soviet Subversion of America (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 11/10/2015 4:51:39 PM EDT
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If you want to know what's going on in America then you only need to look at the past. Mr. Bezmenov explains how we got here. Yes, it's old. Yes, it's been posted several times in the past. Yes, you should watch it again. ADHD Version:  Full version: The Soviet Union may be long gone, but they didn't dig up the seeds they planted when they went away and the tree has been well tended by their useful idiots here. |
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Quoted: Far preferred to the BLM subversion of America. Or the hispanic or muslim subversions as well. Cultural upheaval is coming. Just pick your poison The BLM, illegal alien and islamic issues in America are all products of Soviet Subversion and Soviet Destabilization of America. |
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Quoted: Plenty of sympathizers right here on Arfcom. We need tribunals! Mobs! Pitchforks! I nominate Will to act as presiding judge! But first, we'll need an accurate standard to determine Who Is Red™. Let's see...he who cannot finish the lyrics of a Lee Greenwood song shall forever after be known as an agent provocateur of the commie cause. |
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We need tribunals! Mobs! Pitchforks! I nominate Will to act as presiding judge! But first, we'll need an accurate standard to determine Who Is Red™. Let's see...he who cannot finish the lyrics of a Lee Greenwood song shall forever after be known as an agent provocateur of the commie cause. Quoted:
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Plenty of sympathizers right here on Arfcom. We need tribunals! Mobs! Pitchforks! I nominate Will to act as presiding judge! But first, we'll need an accurate standard to determine Who Is Red™. Let's see...he who cannot finish the lyrics of a Lee Greenwood song shall forever after be known as an agent provocateur of the commie cause. Well.....let me post some of my credentials before we get too far along.... One night while getting quite drunk with several of my friends from the College Republicans in the office of a Student Newspaper funded by the Heritage Foundation at UWM we all decided it would be a good idea to drive to the gravesite of one of our heroes- Joe McCarthy. We did exactly that, had a couple of beers at the site by the river, poured one out for ole Joe in fact.....Got home about 5:30 the next morning..... So, I got that going for me. |
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Quoted: We need tribunals! Mobs! Pitchforks! I nominate Will to act as presiding judge! But first, we'll need an accurate standard to determine Who Is Red™. Let's see...he who cannot finish the lyrics of a Lee Greenwood song shall forever after be known as an agent provocateur of the commie cause. Quoted: Quoted: Plenty of sympathizers right here on Arfcom. We need tribunals! Mobs! Pitchforks! I nominate Will to act as presiding judge! But first, we'll need an accurate standard to determine Who Is Red™. Let's see...he who cannot finish the lyrics of a Lee Greenwood song shall forever after be known as an agent provocateur of the commie cause. And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free! And I won't forget the men who died and gave that right to me! And I'll proudly stand up, next to you and defend her still today. 'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this laaaaaaaaaaaaand, God Bless the U-S-A!  |
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Quoted: Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. |
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Quoted: Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. Quoted: Quoted: Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. I am not proposing stripping anyone of their liberty. I am pointing out that if you want to know why we have colleges implementing speech policies, banning words, trying to run off reporters and absolute morons scream obscenities over 'safe spaces' where dissenting viewpoints are not presented, then watch this video. If you want to know why we have transgendered six year olds and people demanding unisex bathrooms everywhere, then watch this video. If you want to know why 25% of Democratic voters support a Bolshevik, or why 47% of Americans say they would vote for a Socialist then watch this video. As for depriving people of their liberty, I think we are way past the Right being able to do that. The Left has already started though. |
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Quoted: I am not proposing stripping anyone of their liberty. Did I suggest you were? Just making a statement to the royal we, a cautionary one in answer to someone else's post, about the real tendency to get too wrapped up in purging the enemy that you forget what you're fighting for. |
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David Horowitz wrote a book about this more than a decade ago. Radical Son. Read it if you can find it. His parents were radical commies in New York, and he saw the light This is all part of their long term plan. Txl I have that book. Been meaning to read it. |
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Commie 101:
Infiltrate education system Take control of education system Indoctrinate the youth Unionize farm and industrial workers Take control of union Put forth political candidates from said unions Get elected to government Maneuver into positions of power, particularly the “security” apparatus and high level commissions Disarm the population Discredit arrest and/or imprison your ideological enemies whenever possible |
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Commie 101: Infiltrate education system Take control of education system Indoctrinate the youth Unionize farm and industrial workers Take control of union Put forth political candidates from said unions Get elected to government Maneuver into positions of power, particularly the “security” apparatus and high level commissions Disarm the population Discredit arrest and/or imprison your ideological enemies whenever possible Amazing how far down that list they've gotten. |
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Commie 101: Infiltrate education system Check Take control of education system Check Indoctrinate the youth Check Unionize farm and industrial workers Check Take control of union Check Put forth political candidates from said unions Check Get elected to government Check Maneuver into positions of power, particularly the “security” apparatus and high level commissions Check Disarm the population...in progress Discredit arrest and/or imprison your ideological enemies whenever possible |
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if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win.
They didn't "become their version of intolerance" to fight us. They were always intolerant, racist, vindictive and violent, and they're only getting worse as people back away from a fight with them because "intolerance." I'm getting tired of seeing good people being backed into a corner by an increasingly violent, malicious progressive mob that immediately screeches in horror and indignation when confronted by its victims. They remind me of a really shitty lapdog that cowers and shits itself when you look at it, then snaps at your heels as you turn away. |
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Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. Quoted:
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Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. |
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We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. Say what now? 
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Quoted: Soviet spies planted the seeds for it grown and spread on its own. Quoted: Quoted: In the old days, it was directed from abroad. Today, it's homegrown. There were socialists, anti-capitalists and communists in this nation before there was a Bolshevik revolution and a communist Russia to plant seeds. The SPA was formed in 1901...the attitudes that did so were around some time before that, and the goals were always fundamental transformation of the world (not just the US). |
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We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. Say what now? The world would be a better place if it were ruled by the Anglosphere. |
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Quoted: We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. You exemplify the kind of attitude that I'm talking about....kill 'dem commies, to protect our values (like the freedom to hold differing political viewpoints, even dumb ones), or I guess kill people you think are commies (apparently me, because you think I sound like a commie). Good going, I like setting up the pins and having someone run down the lane, knuckles dragging, and do a header right into them. Who else would you like to kill for your Utopia? By all means, spell 'em out. |
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Quoted: They didn't "become their version of intolerance" to fight us. They were always intolerant, racist, vindictive and violent, and they're only getting worse as people back away from a fight with them because "intolerance." Quoted: if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. They didn't "become their version of intolerance" to fight us. They were always intolerant, racist, vindictive and violent, and they're only getting worse as people back away from a fight with them because "intolerance." You're misreading my sentence. I said if WE become their version. Meaning we change to be them, we're not us anymore. If we rape because they rape, we lose the moral high ground to say we're fighting against rape...for example. I realize, and have never argued otherwise, that communists are vindictive and violent. |
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You exemplify the kind of attitude that I'm talking about....kill 'dem commies, to protect our values (like the freedom to hold differing political viewpoints, even dumb ones), or I guess kill people you think are commies (apparently me, because you think I sound like a commie). Good going, I like setting up the pins and having someone run down the lane, knuckles dragging, and do a header right into them. Who else would you like to kill for your Utopia? By all means, spell 'em out. Quoted:
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Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. You exemplify the kind of attitude that I'm talking about....kill 'dem commies, to protect our values (like the freedom to hold differing political viewpoints, even dumb ones), or I guess kill people you think are commies (apparently me, because you think I sound like a commie). Good going, I like setting up the pins and having someone run down the lane, knuckles dragging, and do a header right into them. Who else would you like to kill for your Utopia? By all means, spell 'em out. I'm sure I do. But if you don't see America as being worth killing for, I don't blame you. Some people don't have the stomach for it. |
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Quoted: I'm sure I do. But if you don't see America as being worth killing for, I don't blame you. Some people don't have the stomach for it. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. You exemplify the kind of attitude that I'm talking about....kill 'dem commies, to protect our values (like the freedom to hold differing political viewpoints, even dumb ones), or I guess kill people you think are commies (apparently me, because you think I sound like a commie). Good going, I like setting up the pins and having someone run down the lane, knuckles dragging, and do a header right into them. Who else would you like to kill for your Utopia? By all means, spell 'em out. I'm sure I do. But if you don't see America as being worth killing for, I don't blame you. Some people don't have the stomach for it. Oh, I'm swooning at your badassery, don't get me wrong. Who wouldn't? You think murdering commies is an American value, you apparently want us to set about the violent domination of every nation on earth (unless they're already being run by like-minded white people), and you get to decide who's a filthy commie and who isn't. Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. |
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We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. Quoted:
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Make jokes and all, but the threat is real. Every way of life has detractors, haters, people who set out to make sure you don't get to continue that way of life. The commies were sure there was an American/western subversion of their way of life, and they were right. We very much went out of our way to stop their spread, abroad and even in their homeland. I agree there will always be collectivist, communist-minded people whose long term goal is to usurp American values with their own. The issue isn't that such a threat exists, but how you deal with it. As long as it's fighting their ideas in the arena of political philosophy, or by demonstrating our way is better, or just by raising children to believe that collectivism is dangerous, I'm on your side....it's how I behave and live. As long as we're not talking about stripping anyone's freedom, shooting people, running them out of our nation because they have a different mindset about governance. As much as I detest communism and its children, if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win. We've killed a bunch of people to get our way, politically. Hell, we just "disagreed" with the British about how we were being ruled, then killed a bunch of them, who were essentially our fellow subjects, over it. The way you phrased all that sounds like multicultural BS, to me. Which shockingly is another Soviet invention to convince the West it's not righteously entitled to the world. "Politics is war by other means"....until it's not...... I have no problem with shooting one's political enemies. How is it any different than what THEY want to do/are doing? Here's a good example. They raise your taxes to steal more of your money to pay for more moochers. You decide you are paying enough and simply quit paying.....Then, MEN WITH GUNS COME TO ARREST YOU and if you RESIST they KILL YOU. What's the difference other than they wrote a law and then HIRED it done? ETA: BEFORE you start with the whole "Rule of Law, Democracy" spiel......you have to predict exactly when Lois Lerner gets perp walked. A date for Eric Holders indictment over Fast and Furious would provide additional bona fides......Good luck with that.... |
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You're misreading my sentence. I said if WE become their version. Meaning we change to be them, we're not us anymore. If we rape because they rape, we lose the moral high ground to say we're fighting against rape...for example. I realize, and have never argued otherwise, that communists are vindictive and violent. Quoted:
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if we become their version of intolerance to fight them, we don't deserve to win.
They didn't "become their version of intolerance" to fight us. They were always intolerant, racist, vindictive and violent, and they're only getting worse as people back away from a fight with them because "intolerance." You're misreading my sentence. I said if WE become their version. Meaning we change to be them, we're not us anymore. If we rape because they rape, we lose the moral high ground to say we're fighting against rape...for example. I realize, and have never argued otherwise, that communists are vindictive and violent. No, I read it correctly, and understood perfectly, but we are never going to beat these people by playing nice. I'm not saying to play by their fucked up rules or go retard on them, far from it, but if their loud, mouthy aggression turns violent, they should fully expect an appropriate response in return and not cry like little bitches when they get their noses bloodied. The whole thing comes back to their hypocrisy. They engage in rhetoric and activities in contravention to their stated philosophy of tolerance, respect and equality, but if anyone responds in kind, they shriek about "intolerance" and whatnot. Fuck 'em. I'm not interested in turning the other cheek anymore. Let the rapin' commence. |
It worked. I listened to a talk on Civil War Talk Radio with Prof. Gerald Prokopowicz and his guest, who was PhD, was told that in his days, to have your dissertation accepted, it had to be based on race, class or gender, and whether it that was still the case today. She responded yes, but it's getting better.
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Quoted: Oh, I'm swooning at your badassery, don't get me wrong. Who wouldn't? You think murdering commies is an American value, you apparently want us to set about the violent domination of every nation on earth (unless they're already being run by like-minded white people), and you get to decide who's a filthy commie and who isn't. Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Quoted: Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? |
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Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Quoted:
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Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Do you always ask questions we all already know the answer to? 
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Quoted: Do you always ask questions we all already know the answer to? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Do you always ask questions we all already know the answer to? Why do you ask? |
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Quoted: Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Quoted: Quoted: Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Would you like to change the argument entirely? Because that's cool, just let me know that you're not interested in murdering your own citizens in ideological purges, we'll celebrate that we're on the same side of morality, and then we'll move on to how reactionary imbeciles like BLM have always been a problem in society. We'll agree on that too. It can be as boring and sane as that. Just say go. |
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"We" don't have anything, there are corporations based in the US that have global influence though. Also, empire would lead to ruin. Quoted:
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Absolutely. We've got it anyway, may as well capitalize on it. "We" don't have anything, there are corporations based in the US that have global influence though. Also, empire would lead to ruin. But if you design it, it will be different.
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Quoted: Would you like to change the argument entirely? Because that's cool, just let me know that you're not interested in murdering your own citizens in ideological purges, we'll celebrate that we're on the same side of morality, and then we'll move on to how reactionary imbeciles like BLM have always been a problem in society. We'll agree on that too. It can be as boring and sane as that. Just say go. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? Would you like to change the argument entirely? Because that's cool, just let me know that you're not interested in murdering your own citizens in ideological purges, we'll celebrate that we're on the same side of morality, and then we'll move on to how reactionary imbeciles like BLM have always been a problem in society. We'll agree on that too. It can be as boring and sane as that. Just say go. I'm not interested in murdering anyone in anything. If I have my way, then I'll go my whole, preferably long, life without ever having to kill anyone. But if someone puts me in a position where I have to defend myself then I will. Whether it's a robber or an over amped SJW trying to do me in doesn't matter. |
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Snip Shit, man, who can't respect that? It's like you're a Founding Father, or something. I'm just sitting in the shade of your heroism, wishing I could get some sun on my dainty cheek. Who do you think is more likely to start killing people, the Tea Party or BLM/Occupy? BLM has already started killing people. Personally i have no issue executing them all. They don't play by the rules why should we. |