Posted: 10/30/2015 9:00:52 PM EDT
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I think they're may be some validity to this line of thought for mental exercise purposes. FEEL FREE TO MOD N PASTE THIS WITH YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (Jameson+coke The new class system v2.0 Class: level of .gov care 1. Tax paying voters (positive cash payments) 2. Non tax paying voters (no cash contribution) 3. Subsistence-living tax users ( - cash) 4. Voluntary wards of the state (-cash) 4.b Involuntary wards of the state ( - cash) Let's work on this. |
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Class: level of .gov care 1. Leisure class (positive cash payments) 2. Tax paying voters (positive cash payments) 3. Non tax paying voters (no cash contribution) 4. Subsistence-living tax users ( - cash) 5. Voluntary wards of the state (-cash) 5.b Involuntary wards of the state ( - cash) 6. Leisure class #2 ( - cash) Let's work on this. |
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1. Rich as fuck
2. Pretty well off 3. Thinks they are well off 4. Upper middle class 5. Middle class that thinks they have money 6. Lower middle class $30k millionaires. 7. Upper poor who thinks they are middle class 8. Poor who thinks they are poor, but in reality are upper middleclass when compared to the world. I'm in class 4. |
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1. Rich as fuck 2. Pretty well off 3. Thinks they are well off 4. Upper middle class 5. Middle class that thinks they have money 6. Lower middle class $30k millionaires. 7. Upper poor who thinks they are middle class 8. Poor who thinks they are poor, but in reality are upper middleclass when compared to the world. I'm in class 4. That's genius and better than my list
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Quoted: I think they're may be some validity to this line of thought for mental exercise purposes. FEEL FREE TO MOD N PASTE THIS WITH YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (Jameson+coke The new class system v2.0 Class: level of .gov care 1. Tax paying voters (positive cash payments) 2. Non tax paying voters (no cash contribution) 3. Subsistence-living tax users ( - cash) 4. Voluntary wards of the state (-cash) 4.b Involuntary wards of the state ( - cash) Let's work on this. no skin in the game - no vote why should people that contribute NOTHING have a say in my taxes and how they are spent |
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society.
Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. |
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society. Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. Way to complicated, we just need to go back to land owners only. |
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Way to complicated, we just need to go back to land owners only. Quoted:
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society. Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. Way to complicated, we just need to go back to land owners only. Yup math is harrrrd.
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society. Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. Too complicated. You served? You get to vote. You own land? You get to vote. You paid more in taxes than you receive in government benefits? You get to vote. You have eighty grand in student loans, make 8 bucks an hour serving over priced coffee, and have a master's degree in social justice? Fuck you. |
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Too complicated. You served? You get to vote. You own land? You get to vote. You paid more in taxes than you receive in government benefits? You get to vote. You have eighty grand in student loans, make 8 bucks an hour serving over priced coffee, and have a master's degree in social justice? Fuck you. Quoted:
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society. Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. Too complicated. You served? You get to vote. You own land? You get to vote. You paid more in taxes than you receive in government benefits? You get to vote. You have eighty grand in student loans, make 8 bucks an hour serving over priced coffee, and have a master's degree in social justice? Fuck you. |
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Social class in ancient Rome
ancestry (patrician or plebeian); census rank (ordo) based on wealth and political privilege, with the senatorial and equestrian ranks elevated above the ordinary citizen; attainment of honors (the novus homo or self-made man established his family as nobilis, "noble", and thus there were noble plebeians); and citizenship, of which there were grades with varying rights and privileges. Men who lived in towns outside Rome (such as municipia or colonies) might hold citizenship, but lack the right to vote (see ius Latinum); free-born Roman women were citizens, but could not vote or hold political office. There were also classes of non-citizens with different legal rights, such as peregrini. Under Roman law, slaves were considered property and had no rights as such. However, some laws regulated slavery and offered slaves protections not extended to other forms of property such as animals. Slaves who had been manumitted were freedmen (liberti), and for the most part enjoyed the same legal rights and protections as free-born citizens. |
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What about a printer repairman with eighty seven grand in college debt that can't afford to feed his cats? Quoted:
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Instead of classes, voting should be on a sliding scale based on contribution to society. Everyone over 18 gets 1 vote. If you serve in the armed services you get 10 votes. If you are a veteran you get 5 votes. Then everyone gets a vote based on the multiple of the average tax paid for the previous 4 years. So a veteran who paid in $1500 in taxes (US average for the 4 years was $1000) would go something like this: 1+5+1.5=7.5 votes. A typical Obama voter would be this: 1+0+0=1 votes. A non- veteran CEO who paid $50,000 in taxes would be: 1+0+50=51 votes. Too complicated. You served? You get to vote. You own land? You get to vote. You paid more in taxes than you receive in government benefits? You get to vote. You have eighty grand in student loans, make 8 bucks an hour serving over priced coffee, and have a master's degree in social justice? Fuck you. Life's tough. It's even tougher when you're poor. |
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1. Rich as fuck 2. Pretty well off 3. Thinks they are well off 4. Upper middle class 5. Middle class that thinks they have money 6. Lower middle class $30k millionaires. 7. Upper poor who thinks they are middle class 8. Poor who thinks they are poor, but in reality are upper middleclass when compared to the world. I'm in class 4. What kinda house does upper middle class vs middle class get you? |