Posted: 10/30/2015 12:10:54 PM EDT
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This is like the Balkan conflict all over again please explain to me how this is helpful and what happens if Russian intelligence is no good, like ours, and instead of bombing a hospital they bomb a bunch of Green Berets? |
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Carter spoke of a triple-pronged strategy focusing on "three Rs": raids, Raqqa -- the terror group's de facto capital in Syria -- and Ramadi, the Iraqi city seized by ISIS earlier this year.
We're sending 50 guys. Probably 50 awesome guys, but still... |
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Quoted: No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? Quoted: Quoted: Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? |
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Quoted: My life is brilliant. My love is pure. I saw an angel.................. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? |
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And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 Quoted:
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Proxy war V2.0. And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 I can fucking assure you all that Obama will not go to war with Russia over dead U.S. troops if they're killed by the Rooskies. If he gave two shits about U.S. troops, they wouldn't be in this position to begin with. His abandonment of Iraq made that quite clear. |
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No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? Quoted:
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Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? 1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. |
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Carter spoke of a triple-pronged strategy focusing on "three Rs": raids, Raqqa -- the terror group's de facto capital in Syria -- and Ramadi, the Iraqi city seized by ISIS earlier this year. We're sending 50 guys. Probably 50 awesome guys, but still... Sending lol They're already there |
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war on terror never ends bro Quoted:
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Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops war on terror never ends bro Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be |
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Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be Quoted:
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Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops war on terror never ends bro Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be A declaration is not needed when the country you're invading has zero ability to stop you. At least that is how our government seems to think now. Which actually makes Iran's nuclear ambitions seem pretty reasonable. 
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Quoted: Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops Josh Ernest was just asked this question and he replied that Congress gave approval for all of this back in 2001, so this administration is riding off a previous approval from another administration.  |
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Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be Quoted:
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Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops war on terror never ends bro Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be When a sovereign nation loses controul of its territory to people that are essentially hostis humani generis, or at the least a threat to or enemy of a country, it is not really an act of war requiring a declaration of the same to send forces into that territory. No declaration of war is needed to fight a non-state actor. |
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I can fucking assure you all that Obama will not go to war with Russia over dead U.S. troops if they're killed by the Rooskies. If he gave two shits about U.S. troops, they wouldn't be in this position to begin with. His abandonment of Iraq made that quite clear. Quoted:
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Proxy war V2.0. And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 I can fucking assure you all that Obama will not go to war with Russia over dead U.S. troops if they're killed by the Rooskies. If he gave two shits about U.S. troops, they wouldn't be in this position to begin with. His abandonment of Iraq made that quite clear. Benghazi part 2 |
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I hope they're not going into places where Russia is going to be bombing and shit. Last thing we need is a MAJOR incident where Russia kills Americans on the ground. Most of America would drink the Kool Aid and blame Russia My question would be, "WTF were we doing there in the first place?" And then blaming the current administration, no matter who's in charge. |
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Quoted: I can fucking assure you all that Obama will not go to war with Russia over dead U.S. troops if they're killed by the Rooskies. If he gave two shits about U.S. troops, they wouldn't be in this position to begin with. His abandonment of Iraq made that quite clear. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Proxy war V2.0. And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 I can fucking assure you all that Obama will not go to war with Russia over dead U.S. troops if they're killed by the Rooskies. If he gave two shits about U.S. troops, they wouldn't be in this position to begin with. His abandonment of Iraq made that quite clear. Likely to be inherited by the next admin. |
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And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 Quoted:
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Proxy war V2.0. And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 You think America has enough sack left to respond to an act of aggression...? Shit, we don't even have what it takes to charge IRS personnel for knowingly repressing organizations for political purposes. |
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Quoted: And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 Quoted: Quoted: Proxy war V2.0. And Russia mistakenly drops a bomb on US personnel which in turn triggers WW3 Hell, that is just fewer conservative voters (statistically speaking). |
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1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. Quoted:
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Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? 1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. That's the kind of thing I think points back to society's wider lessons from the first world war. In 1914, Capt. Blount would've swallowed hard, got his pluck up, and charged the rooskies. If he hadn't, he'd have been considered a coward by his officers, his men, and the people that wrote that article. The perfectly sensible reasons for his refusal would've been irrelevant. He Had An Order. Now we expect this kind of thing and celebrate it. Not saying it's bad mind you, just a perfect example of the shift in perception that started on the fields of the western front a century ago. |
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Kerry isn't ruling out a further U.S. escalation of the fight, saying he can't predict the future. |
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I guess with officers like Blunt who needs Generals or Colonels, Blunt can decide when to attack or not, that's is not so good. Is possible that Blunt was right at that moment, but just imagine in a shooting war low ranking officers questioning top commander's orders. I don't like a unified command, let American officers command American forces.
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1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. Quoted:
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Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? 1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. |
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Josh Ernest was just asked this question and he replied that Congress gave approval for all of this back in 2001, so this administration is riding off a previous approval from another administration.
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Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops Josh Ernest was just asked this question and he replied that Congress gave approval for all of this back in 2001, so this administration is riding off a previous approval from another administration.
And, somehow, this 'approval' has been used to justify Yemen, Libya, and Syria...funny how the left plays the game however they wish to. |
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I hope they're not going into places where Russia is going to be bombing and shit. Last thing we need is a MAJOR incident where Russia kills Americans on the ground. It's coming. The Saudis are already waging economic war on the Russians. They want their puppet Obama to put the US in a ground war with Russia and Iran. It all plays into what the Muslim Brotherhood wants to happen. Weaken the US and Russia, spread Islam in both countries when both are occupied and/or down. |
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Quoted: I guess with officers like Blunt who needs Generals or Colonels, Blunt can decide when to attack or not, that's is not so good. Is possible that Blunt was right at that moment, but just imagine in a shooting war low ranking officers questioning top commander's orders. I don't like a unified command, let American officers command American forces. Quoted: I guess with officers like Blunt who needs Generals or Colonels, Blunt can decide when to attack or not, that's is not so good. Is possible that Blunt was right at that moment, but just imagine in a shooting war low ranking officers questioning top commander's orders. I don't like a unified command, let American officers command American forces. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Remember that time Wesley Clark tried to start World War Three? Thank god for James Blunt (yes, that James Blunt) No idea what you are talking about. Got a link? 1999 Blunt was a British Army Captain in charge of a reconnaissance unit. He was given orders to seize an airfield that was already occupied by Russians. He ended up getting into it with NATO command (Clark) who insisted there were no Russians there and to seize it by force. He basically said "fuck, it court martial me" and probably prevented a pretty ugly international incident. Pretty admirable guy to be honest, despite that song... Kind of a lesson in not drinking your koolaide when it comes to thinking your intel is infallible. wasn't empty, after clark rejected the eyes on info of the ground force commander WHO WAS THERE! |
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When a sovereign nation loses controul of its territory to people that are essentially hostis humani generis, or at the least a threat to or enemy of a country, it is not really an act of war requiring a declaration of the same to send forces into that territory. No declaration of war is needed to fight a non-state actor. Quoted:
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Didn't realize Congress had declared war in order to send in troops war on terror never ends bro Oh I must have missed that declaration of war as well. Didn't realize that gave us the ability to invade any sovereign country we wanted, no matter how retarded said country may be When a sovereign nation loses controul of its territory to people that are essentially hostis humani generis, or at the least a threat to or enemy of a country, it is not really an act of war requiring a declaration of the same to send forces into that territory. No declaration of war is needed to fight a non-state actor. When there are forces in that same theater of war that we are actively opposing that are actually from that sovereign country then those lines sure get blurry as fuck. What happens when our guys just happen upon Syrian forces? Are we going to commit an act of war against a sovereign country with out congressional approval? That whole country is a cluster fuck we would be best to stay the fuck out of. |