[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt M4 upper, off centered T marks (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/21/2015 8:01:46 AM EDT
I just aquired a Colt M4 upper receiver and noticed the "T" marks are off center. I've never seen that on an upper. Any ideas?
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The receiver is in spec in every other way. It is marked M4 in the front and has the feed ramps. Everything else seems straight and normal. It doesn't bother me that the T marks are off center. I just haven't seen that on a Colt. I know it's a functional tool... I am just curious if anyone else has seen this?
I know... hard to believe a good union employee would be potentially disgruntled and try to stick it to the company and indirectly the customer... 
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| My guess is the laser etching machine thingamajiggy or its vice just got misaligned. I've seen off centered T-marks on uppers before too. No biggy. The funny thing is that could actually make it worth more. Some people are into those "one off" Colt mess up parts. |
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I know... hard to believe a good union employee would be potentially disgruntled and try to stick it to the company and indirectly the customer... Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Obviously. That's why everything else is fine. No, I haven't seen that before, and no it probably shouldn't have gone out the door, and no Colt doesn't give a fuck because it's only cosmetic. |
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate. 
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. |
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Colt sells stripped receivers? Not that I'm aware of... this was part of a factory assembled upper that was disassembled. I'm not worried about the T marks being off centered (once again...), I just thought it was an interesting anomaly that I hadn't seen before. I wanted to see if anyone else had seen a Colt upper that left the factory this way... |
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Quoted: Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever. It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate. Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever. It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that Colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. |
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Do you work for Colt? Did you Mark that upper? Unless you have first hand knowledge you're just passing rumor, which doesn't belong in a technical forum. Did you miss that Colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that Colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Don't forget, fit/finish is all that matters to most here. 
I still remember that huge flame war a year or 2 ago about fit/finish vs. function. Soooooo many people were on the fit/finish side. Because guns aren't tools anymore, they're safe queens!
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Even more surprising it made it out if it was part of a complete upper.
Everyone makes mistakes, no big deal, but call a spade a spade imo. Some rough finish or whatever is one thing, that is another. Neat conversation piece though, I'd have bought it just because if the rest of it looked functional. |
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Do you work for Colt? Did you Mark that upper? Unless you have first hand knowledge you're just passing rumor, which doesn't belong in a technical forum. Did you miss that colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Yes I seen colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar contract with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machined better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. I Hate ruffling the feathers of the ARFCOM colt Gods
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Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. lol |
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P Yes I seen Colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for Colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machine better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned Colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that Colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Yes I seen Colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for Colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machine better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned Colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. Lol better fit and finish does not equal a better rifle. |
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Lol poor fit and finish does not make a better rifle.
It just shows the pride and workmanship a person or a company puts into their product. <a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/user/7lf10/media/19601A0E-5077-4BDB-98F4-567D58955E57_zpsccxntro7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/7lf10/19601A0E-5077-4BDB-98F4-567D58955E57_zpsccxntro7.jpg</a> Oh No..not the LIST.
Those who have been around ARFCOM for awhile have seen that list to naseum...it's so 2013 ish.. It's the new ABC list. |
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ODJP Yes I seen colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar contract with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machined better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. I Hate ruffling the feathers of the ARFCOM colt Gods Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Yes I seen colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar contract with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machined better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. I Hate ruffling the feathers of the ARFCOM colt Gods I see this all the time on here... people looked at a Colt in the store and it was way worse than brand X that they bought instead. I understand that the Colt enthusiasm can be a bit excessive in some cases and it honestly turned me off of colt for awhile but I finally decided to try one out and they really are great rifles. I have owned Noveske, KAC, LWRC, LMT, BCM, ect (just about every popular brand on here bc even if i can't afford to keep them all, i can at least get rounds through them and see what they are about), and I was really kinda surprised how well a "POS $800 Walmart rifle" can perform. IDK where you are getting the fit thing from bc the fit I have seen on my Colts has been on par (or better in some cases) than the aforementioned brands. The only rifle that had a noticeably better fit than the others was my LMT MRP. The colt finish is meh but everyone knows that... the finish on 2/4 of my LMTs was beat up too. People want to take the minimum quality standards for "mil spec" and assume that colt hits right at that minimum which isn't even close to true. A IME, a colt barrel will keep up with DD CHF or BCM BFH barrel (I have had better luck with colt barrels than the BCM but i obviously can't speak for everyone). If you look at a DPMS on the shelf it will look beautiful. Lesser (hate to use that word but  ) brands understand that the average consumer is going to make their decision based on how pretty the rifle looks on the shelf, so they will make sure that finish is top notch because this is what keeps them competitive with brands like Colt. Colt doesn't worry about finish because to them and the majority of the people that use them, it is inconsequential.
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ODJP Yes I seen colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar contract with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machined better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. I Hate ruffling the feathers of the ARFCOM colt Gods Quoted:
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Colt is starting to use their blemished / bankrupt parts that the cleaning crew found buried in the corner in a dust covered crate.
Sorry....Truth is they are using their best milspec parts. Just like they been using forever.
It's just a fact that colt is bankrupt. There bond rating is rated as " Junk" and many of colts employees are very disgruntled. But Hey !!! It's your money buy a colt it's Milspec. Did you miss that colt was just awarded another M4 contract? T marks are there, so probably passed the QA. They aren't real worried about cosmetics at Colt and never have been. Yes I seen colt will be spitting a 212 million dollar contract with FN. Looks like another General Motors type bail out for colt. I do have first hand knowledge. I recently looked at a LE6920 It had a poorly machined lower, sad looking finish, gritty trigger, Loose lower/upper fit. But I know it was Mil-spec So when I was looking for another M4 type KISS rifle I bought A Windham Weaponry MPC. It was machined better, better finish, tight lower/upper fit , nice trigger, great customer service, lifetime warranty and it's been just as reliable as my Dept owned colt RO977 14.5 Bbl.. So it's just not rumors. It's factual data that I bring to a technical based forum. I Hate ruffling the feathers of the ARFCOM colt Gods The "data" you just related is anecdotal at absolute best. Until you have documented evidence of your assertions, backed by actual data (such as the table you scoff at) I would advise you refrain from posting in Tech, lest you out yourself as an uninformed individual that is better suited to to turning the rumor mill at the counter of your local gun shop. Quit while you aren't too far behind. |
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I see this all the time on here... people looked at a Colt in the store and it was way worse than brand X that they bought instead. I understand that the Colt enthusiasm can be a bit excessive in some cases and it honestly turned me off of colt for awhile but I finally decided to try one out and they really are great rifles. I have owned Noveske, KAC, LWRC, LMT, BCM, ect (just about every popular brand on here bc even if i can't afford to keep them all, i can at least get rounds through them and see what they are about), and I was really kinda surprised how well a "POS $800 Walmart rifle" can perform. IDK where you are getting the fit thing from bc the fit I have seen on my Colts has been on par (or better in some cases) than the aforementioned brands. The only rifle that had a noticeably better fit than the others was my LMT MRP. The colt finish is meh but everyone knows that... the finish on 2/4 of my LMTs was beat up too. People want to take the minimum quality standards for "mil spec" and assume that colt hits right at that minimum which isn't even close to true. A IME, a colt barrel will keep up with DD CHF or BCM BFH barrel (I have had better luck with colt barrels than the BCM but i obviously can't speak for everyone). If you look at a DPMS on the shelf it will look beautiful. Lesser (hate to use that word but ) brands understand that the average consumer is going to make their decision based on how pretty the rifle looks on the shelf, so they will make sure that finish is top notch because this is what keeps them competitive with brands like Colt. Colt doesn't worry about finish because to them and the majority of the people that use them, it is inconsequential.
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I've had more than a few 6920's , DD's, S&W's , PSA's, BCM's etc. and yes the Colts have had the most handling marks from the factory and not the best receiver machining but they are the only ones that worked 100%. Compare gas key staking or a castle nut staking to a DD for instance (castle nut staked in one place and they use aluminum castle nuts and end plates) when Colt uses steel ones. Compare their gas key staking to just about any other brand. I had more issues with my DD rifles than any of the other brands.
I get a little frustrated when I see all this Colt hate but they flat out work, only rifle I would trust my life with. My son carried one in Iraq for two tours and never had an issue with his either. To all the haters out there who have never owned one reserve your opinions and judgement until you have and stop repeating what you have read on the internet. |
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If colt don't care about fit or finish what makes you think
that colt employees care about anything else. Mil-spec is only Mil-spec if colt keeps QC up. They are already disgruntled They already work for a bankrupt company They know the company's bond rating is "JUNK" They know they might be out of jobs soon. Rumor has it many of their better machinists, mold makers and CNC operators are bailing and looking for other more secure work with-in the Union. Some say the UAW Union is to blame for colts problems. Others say is the poor management. Time will tell what happens with colt. Back in the day they did make great revolvers and AR's. Today for the money there are just better choices. Spent your money wisely. Forgot to add I have an older personally owned colt and have a Dept. owned colt RO977 assigned to me. They work 100 %. But so do my other AR's |
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If colt don't care about fit or finish what makes you think that colt employees care about anything else. Mil-spec is only Mil-spec if colt keeps QC up. They are already disgruntled They already work for a bankrupt company They know the company's bond rating is "JUNK" They know they might be out of jobs soon. Rumor has it many of their better machinists, mold makers and CNC operators are bailing and looking for other more secure work with-in the Union. Some say the UAW Union is to blame for colts problems. Others say is the poor management. Time will tell what happens with colt. Back in the day they did make great revolvers and AR's. Today for the money there are just better choices. Spent your money wisely. Forgot to add I have an older personally owned colt and have a Dept. owned colt RO977 assigned to me. They work 100 %. But so do my other AR's "Rumor has it" Let us know when you find some actual facts. |
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If colt don't care about fit or finish what makes you think that colt employees care about anything else. Mil-spec is only Mil-spec if colt keeps QC up. They are already disgruntled They already work for a bankrupt company They know the company's bond rating is "JUNK" They know they might be out of jobs soon. Rumor has it many of their better machinists, mold makers and CNC operators are bailing and looking for other more secure work with-in the Union. Some say the UAW Union is to blame for colts problems. Others say is the poor management. Time will tell what happens with colt. Back in the day they did make great revolvers and AR's. Today for the money there are just better choices. Spent your money wisely. Forgot to add I have an older personally owned colt and have a Dept. owned colt RO977 assigned to me. They work 100 %. But so do my other AR's "Rumor has it" Let us know when you find some actual facts. Fact- colt is bankrupt Fact- colt bond rating is rated " Junk" Fact- many of there employees are disgruntled Fact- the colt LE 6920 I recently looked at had poor machining, Gritty trigger, lose upper/lower fit and the M4 barrel cuts were poorly indexed and not straight looking like it could cause rounds to catch. But hey it's your money. All I'm saying is at this point of the game there are better choices with better customer service. Would anyone buy a car from a bankrupt company? I know I would not. Why would you buy a firearm from a bankrupt company? |
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Somebody make it stop. This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! |
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This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! Quoted:
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Somebody make it stop. This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! Colt Love? I don't even own a Colt. |
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This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! Quoted:
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Somebody make it stop. This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! I've never seen it... I actually think it is pretty cool. Anything that is unique to the rifle from the factory that isn't going to affect function i think are kinda wins. If you post something about Colt that could possibly be related to their QC in anyway this is going to be how it ends up. Every time haha. |
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Somebody make it stop. This thread has kind of gone down the Colt LOVE/HATE road... I guess I should have been a little more clear in my intent and question. I thought this upper was unique. I wanted to show a unique example of something I'd never seen. I wanted to know if anyone else had seen something like this from Colt or any other reputable manufacturer? Please keep the Colt LOVE/HATE out of this thread. No matter what you post, you're not likely going to change anyone's opinion on Colt. I don't want this thread locked and dumped. Every mfg'r makes errors and errors make it out the door. Some companies are better with their customer service than others once errors are identified. I think this is well established. This is not the intent of this thread. Thanks for your input! Colt Love? I don't even own a Colt. Do you work for colt?
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I was going to say I bet that's a reject part,, but OP said it came as part of a complete upper with barrel. Looks bad for part with a C on it. I not taking up sides here but as for the fit and finish battle, you have to understand that for many years most of the guns that came out of Colt went to the military. Do you think they care about how beautiful the m4 is or do you think they care about how well it will hold up to combat. They get beat to hell anyway. A 6920 is a civilian rifle, yes, however its made with the same parts and same line as the military m4. But that upper looks like the ugly duckling...
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Quoted: Fact- colt is bankrupt Fact- colt bond rating is rated " Junk" Fact- many of there employees are disgruntled Fact- the colt LE 6920 I recently looked at had poor machining, Gritty trigger, lose upper/lower fit and the M4 barrel cuts were poorly indexed and not straight looking like it could cause rounds to catch. But hey it's your money. All I'm saying is at this point of the game there are better choices with better customer service. Would anyone buy a car from a bankrupt company? I know I would not. Why would you buy a firearm from a bankrupt company? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If colt don't care about fit or finish what makes you think that colt employees care about anything else. Mil-spec is only Mil-spec if colt keeps QC up. They are already disgruntled They already work for a bankrupt company They know the company's bond rating is "JUNK" They know they might be out of jobs soon. Rumor has it many of their better machinists, mold makers and CNC operators are bailing and looking for other more secure work with-in the Union. Some say the UAW Union is to blame for colts problems. Others say is the poor management. Time will tell what happens with colt. Back in the day they did make great revolvers and AR's. Today for the money there are just better choices. Spent your money wisely. Forgot to add I have an older personally owned colt and have a Dept. owned colt RO977 assigned to me. They work 100 %. But so do my other AR's "Rumor has it" Let us know when you find some actual facts. Fact- colt is bankrupt Fact- colt bond rating is rated " Junk" Fact- many of there employees are disgruntled Fact- the colt LE 6920 I recently looked at had poor machining, Gritty trigger, lose upper/lower fit and the M4 barrel cuts were poorly indexed and not straight looking like it could cause rounds to catch. But hey it's your money. All I'm saying is at this point of the game there are better choices with better customer service. Would anyone buy a car from a bankrupt company? I know I would not. Why would you buy a firearm from a bankrupt company? Fact- Colt is the standard by which other AR15s are measured. Fact- The United States military uses them and will continue to use them for the foreseeable future. Fact- Colt rifles are reliable, are accurate by any rack grade standard, and are durable. |