[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Flintlocks? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/10/2015 11:50:32 PM EDT
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I have been wanting a flintlock long gun lately so today I looked around on Cabelas and Midway cause I have no idea where else to look and Jesus Christ I had no idea these things were so expensive. Can anyone recommend a place to look for these? Or do I just have to pay $700 to $1k+ for a modern built gun from a several hundred year old design? |
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http://www.dixiegun.com/ they have tons of smoke guns
or if you want a really nice flintlock check out these guys. http://www.tennesseevalleymuzzleloading.com/ this guy has a lot of reviews on blackpowder guns and TVM flintlocks https://www.youtube.com/user/duelist1954 |
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Quoted: http://www.dixiegun.com/ they have tons of smoke guns or if you want a really nice flintlock check out these guys. http://www.tennesseevalleymuzzleloading.com/ this guy has a lot of reviews on blackpowder guns and TVM flintlocks https://www.youtube.com/user/duelist1954 I had no idea single shot hand loaded rifles were so expensive. I guess I should just stick to AR15s. |
| Track of the Wolf has some beautiful guns for sale, many of them are $1K+ unfortunately. |
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Quoted: Find a Lyman for your first gun, and yes, you'll have to pay a fair price for the gun. Mine shoots very accurately. You just have to dial in the right powder charge. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1064285274/lyman-deerstalker-muzzleloading-rifle-flintlock-wood-stock-1-in-48-twist-24-barrel-blue $450 |
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Thof, the market for flints is a niche market. There is not much demand for flints these days. The Tennessee link is probably
your best bet. You can buy junk just as easily as you can buy quality. There is a reason a Colerain or a Green Mountain barrel costs so much. If you are just looking for a gun that smokes when you pop that frizzen & don't care where the round ball hits after the flash in the pan, junk is what you seek. A properly fitted & crafted smokepole can demand a lot of money. |
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All of those are still $1k+ even modern muzzle loaders seem to be $600 an up. I had no idea single shot hand loaded rifles were so expensive. I guess I should just stick to AR15s. Quoted:
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http://www.dixiegun.com/ they have tons of smoke guns or if you want a really nice flintlock check out these guys. http://www.tennesseevalleymuzzleloading.com/ this guy has a lot of reviews on blackpowder guns and TVM flintlocks https://www.youtube.com/user/duelist1954 I had no idea single shot hand loaded rifles were so expensive. I guess I should just stick to AR15s. They don't turn out quality charcoal burners on CNC machines like an AR, the good ones are still hand built. For a decent mass produced one (That will still take some tweaking) go with a Lyman Great Plains Rifle. You can pick up a kit and finish it yourself for about $450 or a finished one for $100 more And remember the larger the caliber, the greater the mass and accurate range of the projectile 
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There you go, Lyman. Mine shoots very accurately. You just have to dial in the right powder charge. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1064285274/lyman-deerstalker-muzzleloading-rifle-flintlock-wood-stock-1-in-48-twist-24-barrel-blue $450 Quoted:
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Find a Lyman for your first gun, and yes, you'll have to pay a fair price for the gun. Mine shoots very accurately. You just have to dial in the right powder charge. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1064285274/lyman-deerstalker-muzzleloading-rifle-flintlock-wood-stock-1-in-48-twist-24-barrel-blue $450 Most new muzzleloader shooters try to shoot charges that are too large by 50 percent or more |
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Quoted: Shop around locally and online and you should be able to find a used one in good shape for a decent price, just have to be patient and keep looking. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll6/slider356/746a898e-44b0-49d5-888b-dfc1cc6dd3a3_zps994d56bd.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j377/victor751/aa3_zps1c0705e4.jpg |
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iliveinatrailer's thread with a photo of one of his guns - http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1795986_Help_me_shop_.html |
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Smashy, whats the details on the bottom rifle? Nothing special, just a T/C Hawken I found in the used rack of a gun shop. I have two barrels for it, a .50 Green Mountain barrel and a custom .36 barrel. The only thing it doesn't have is a factory T/C barrel. 
But T/C stopped making traditional muzzleloaders a few years ago in favor of inlines. If you want one, you'll have to shop the used market. |
DID SOMEBODY SAY FLINTLOCK!
Guns in the $550 range. I would think about getting a pistol first. Cheaper and easier to clean. Flintlocks work best with real black powder. Goex is preferable. You're going to love it, or your going to shoot it a few times and never touch it again. Don't rule out a kit gun either. If you can build a birdhouse you can put the kit in the below link together in a few hours, and it builds a good gun. L&R makes a lock for it if you want to upgrade it. Kit gun |
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iliveinatrailer's thread with a photo of one of his guns - http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1795986_Help_me_shop_.html Darn trailer people... |
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Good for finished guns.. http://cherrys.com/ If your feeling creative to build your own http://www.longrifles-pr.com/ http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com/ Here is my second build  and my 6th  |
I have one of these and I love it. http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_188&products_id=979 |
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Got mine. .50 caliber roundball of the Lancaster Co style. 1:60" Green Mountain barrel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5127/5288582116_3ba6779114_b.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5083/5312017919_35c6d7df3a_b.jpg That rifle is absolutely beautiful. Who is the manufacturer/artist? |
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Good for finished guns.. http://cherrys.com/ If your feeling creative to build your own http://www.longrifles-pr.com/ http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com/ Here is my second buildhttp://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/bob243_photo/002%20-%20Lancaster%20Hunting%20rifle/100_1410-1.jpg and my 6th http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/bob243_photo/006%20-%20Lehigh%20Valley%20Squirrel%20Gun/Lehigh-4-29-10003.jpg Awesome! Are you building another one this year? |
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Quoted: That rifle is absolutely beautiful. Who is the manufacturer/artist? Quoted: Quoted: Got mine. .50 caliber roundball of the Lancaster Co style. 1:60" Green Mountain barrel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5127/5288582116_3ba6779114_b.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5083/5312017919_35c6d7df3a_b.jpg That rifle is absolutely beautiful. Who is the manufacturer/artist? H Newman is all I know. It took a little experimentation to get it go bang everytime, but we're good now. Have yet to kill anything with it. Last year, I missed a decent fork when there was no bang--turns out the powdermeasure didn't fill when I upended the powderhorn in the dark behind the tailgate. The wife is goodly enough to let it hang on the wall in the livingroom with all its gear. |
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If you aren't hung up on high grade wood and blued metal, look at a Thompson Firestorm. Still a flintlock, but black plastic stick and black phosphate metal.
A good way to get started in muzzle loaders without spending a ton of money for a traditional flintlock. It's what I did and the gun has held up for 20 years. Used examples can be had in the $200 to $300 price range. |
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Quoted: Awesome! Are you building another one this year? Quoted: Quoted: Good for finished guns.. http://cherrys.com/ If your feeling creative to build your own http://www.longrifles-pr.com/ http://muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com/ Here is my second buildhttp://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/bob243_photo/002%20-%20Lancaster%20Hunting%20rifle/100_1410-1.jpg and my 6th http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/bob243_photo/006%20-%20Lehigh%20Valley%20Squirrel%20Gun/Lehigh-4-29-10003.jpg Awesome! Are you building another one this year? |
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Yes, but they're expensive now. Gone are the days of cheapo Lyman kits. Quoted:
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Are kits you build/assemble yourself still a thing? Yes, but they're expensive now. Gone are the days of cheapo Lyman kits. I was flipping throughb a Dixie catalog a few years back, their "Early American Jaeger" kit was around $850.00...the Production one was only around $150 more...just looked it up again HOLY SHIT 
Kit $1075.00 Production $1375.00 |
| My wife got me a flintlock blunderbuss from Middlesex Village Trading It's a hoot to shoot. |
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Shop around locally and online and you should be able to find a used one in good shape for a decent price, just have to be patient and keep looking. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll6/slider356/746a898e-44b0-49d5-888b-dfc1cc6dd3a3_zps994d56bd.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j377/victor751/aa3_zps1c0705e4.jpg Those are nice looking guns Smashy. |
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Flintlock is bestlock. http://flintlock.org/pics/var/albums/Flintlocks/GL_Dech_Longrifle.jpg?m=1415063426 http://flintlock.org/pics/var/albums/Flintlocks/longrifle_l_closeup.jpg?m=1314053870 http://flintlock.org/pics/var/albums/Flintlocks/longrifle_r_butt.jpg?m=1314053863 It is a Dixie Gunworks Tenn. Mountain Rifle that was restocked by G.L. Dech. He also turned the barrel to half octagon/half round, which greatly improves the balance. I bought it used at Dixon's in Kempton, PA. That's a great place to visit for anyone that lives within a couple hundred miles that wants to see a variety of guns and jump past the entry level import guns that might not be worth a damn. I wanted to go to the Gunbuilder's Fair this year and let work get in my way instead; that was a mistake. The Log Cabin Shop in Lodi, Ohio is another good place to visit. |
I live about an hour from Dixon's. The Gunmaker's Fair this year was good. I snagged a very gently used Euroarms Magnum Cape Gun at it this year. Doesn't fit into this thread since it's a percussion, but we all like gun pics, right? It's a 12 gauge percussion shotgun. Cylinder bore. It shoots both shot and PRB well. It will see some time afield this year in pursuit of birds, small game, and deer. |
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Got mine. .50 caliber roundball of the Lancaster Co style. 1:60" Green Mountain barrel. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5127/5288582116_3ba6779114_b.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5083/5312017919_35c6d7df3a_b.jpg I need a little schooling here, what makes that one "Lancaster Co. style?" |
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I also have (and have had) an extensive collection of flintlocks. I suggest Pedersoli and some 'Indian ones', sold by a couple of shops here in North America. One is definitely http://www.loyalistarms.ca The problem with 'Indian flintlocks' (in the sense that they copy British designs, making them in contemporary India) is that not all of them are safe to shoot or even ready to be shot when you buy them. So you need to have the right dealer who preps them. Loyalty are one of those. A few images of mine.  YesterYear AdventureLand by SoloDallas, on Flickr  Brown Bessing by SoloDallas, on Flickr  Vintage Tactical by SoloDallas, on Flickr  BPG by SoloDallas, on Flickr |