Posted: 9/5/2015 9:46:14 PM EDT
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In NJ abandoned septic tanks have to be filled with sand. NJ also requires board of health approval.
Contact your local govt. to see what they require. NJ also requires that the work be done by a licensed contractor. My system has two separate drain fields joined together with a diverter valve. Every 6 months I switch from one to the other. Every 3 years I have the tank pumped out. In the 27 years we lived here have never had a problem. I shouldn't brag. Now I probably will have a problem. Good luck to you. |
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I'd have the old tank filled in with gravel or good fill dirt and not left empty. Call a local contractor who installs septic systems and get their opinion. I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. |
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Quoted: I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. Quoted: Quoted: I'd have the old tank filled in with gravel or good fill dirt and not left empty. Call a local contractor who installs septic systems and get their opinion. I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. |
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I don't know what they're talking about for a "grout" fill. The weight of the sunroom may have already have cracked the top of the septic tank and that's why you're getting a sewage smell when it rains. The tank is flooding from the top. You may have a bigger problem than you think with the sunroom being over the tank. Quoted:
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I'd have the old tank filled in with gravel or good fill dirt and not left empty. Call a local contractor who installs septic systems and get their opinion. I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. They're talking about concrete slurry. Which looks like grout I guess. |
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I don't know what they're talking about for a "grout" fill. The weight of the sunroom may have already have cracked the top of the septic tank and that's why you're getting a sewage smell when it rains. The tank is flooding from the top. You may have a bigger problem than you think with the sunroom being over the tank. Quoted:
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I'd have the old tank filled in with gravel or good fill dirt and not left empty. Call a local contractor who installs septic systems and get their opinion. I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. Well the smell problem has been happening on and off for years now, we just cut water use during periods of heavy rain. As of last year when the tank was worked on, everything was fine. Part of my desire to get the new tank is to fill this sucker in and eliminate the chances it will collapse. I guess it is contractor time. I hate to wish harm to prople but if the previous owner's dick fell off tonight, I would have no sympathy for him. |
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Well the smell problem has been happening on and off for years now, we just cut water use during periods of heavy rain. As of last year when the tank was worked on, everything was fine. Part of my desire to get the new tank is to fill this sucker in and eliminate the chances it will collapse. I guess it is contractor time. I hate to wish harm to prople but if the previous owner's dick fell off tonight, I would have no sympathy for him. Quoted:
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I'd have the old tank filled in with gravel or good fill dirt and not left empty. Call a local contractor who installs septic systems and get their opinion. I read online about people doing what I'm taking about. Use existing tank to route the new pipes and then it said to fill it with grout? Any idea what grout is in this instance? I don't want to put anything extremely heavy in it, as it would sink from underneath my foundation. I.e. Concrete would be very very heavy. Well the smell problem has been happening on and off for years now, we just cut water use during periods of heavy rain. As of last year when the tank was worked on, everything was fine. Part of my desire to get the new tank is to fill this sucker in and eliminate the chances it will collapse. I guess it is contractor time. I hate to wish harm to prople but if the previous owner's dick fell off tonight, I would have no sympathy for him. You bought Catlin Jenner old house? |
| Don't know how long ago you bought this house, but this sounds like it should have been "disclosed" as it is not possible for the seller not to have known. I've seen successful actions taken as long as two years after closing on faults such as this. Look into it, perhaps the seller should have brought it up to code prior to sale, or, disclosed in writing to you. |
| I've had to deal with this situation a couple of times when adding room additions. Here in AZ I had to have the tank pumped out, remove the lid, bust some holes in the bottom of the tank and back fill with abc. The County also required a abandonment permit. Good luck OP. |
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Don't know how long ago you bought this house, but this sounds like it should have been "disclosed" as it is not possible for the seller not to have known. I've seen successful actions taken as long as two years after closing on faults such as this. Look into it, perhaps the seller should have brought it up to code prior to sale, or, disclosed in writing to you. Yep but it was 10 years ago. Lesson learned to have a home inspector AND a septic inspector. Previous owner won, screwed me over really well. But what comes around goes around. |
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I've had to deal with this situation a couple of times when adding room additions. Here in AZ I had to have the tank pumped out, remove the lid, bust some holes in the bottom of the tank and back fill with abc. The County also required a abandonment permit. Good luck OP. The problem is how do you remove the lid with the corner of a house on part of it? Also how do you then compact the dirt enough to become a footer for the sunroom? |
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If you have a failed drainfield or tank here you have to connect to central sewer if avalible. No rebuilding allowed. I would call health department for information. Yeah no sewer available here, I'm unsure how far away the closest sewer connection is. It would be cheaper to walk away from the house if that were required. But I think we're okay here, no requirement to do that here. |
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Sand will compress to 90% on its own. When they come to put in the new tank they can use the back hoe to collapse the lid and top of the wall and then back fill it with sand after they pump it out. It is also a good idea to poke a hole in the bottom of the tank. Rerouting the new sewer line is a piece of cake once the old tank is collapsed.
You can also use what is called flowable fill, it is 3/4" limestone base with cement mixed in. It is delivered by the transit mix companies and it packs harder than a whore's heart. |