[ARCHIVED THREAD] - My Liberal Parents (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 9/1/2015 12:53:06 AM EDT
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So I went home and my parents were sitting in front of MSNBC.. I don't know if it happens with age but I clearly remember my parents becoming more liberal as they became older.
Going off into the world at 18 a couple deployments to Iraq and working all over the place distance me a lot from them and I didn't realize what a bunch of fucking liberals they became. We have nothing in common as far as politics and they were running their mouths telling me everything I know I learned from Fox News, how great Hillary Clinton was and how qualified she was for the job. Then my grandparents said the same thing.. Then my father proceeded to tell me when he's saw my brand new suppressor that only assassins need something like that..I was shocked we used to camp and shoot together I asked my dad why he hated freedom and then we got into a pretty big argument and I got in my car and came home.. probably going to avoid that place for another few months. Anyone else have this issue? Bunch of fuckin kool-aid drinkers |
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sorry to hear this about your parents, brother... Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit |
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So I went home and my parents were sitting in front of MSNBC.. I don't know if it happens with age but I clearly remember my parents becoming more liberal as they became older. Going off into the world at 18 a couple deployments to Iraq and working all over the place distance me a lot from them and I didn't realize what a bunch of fucking liberals they became. We have nothing in common as far as politics and they were running their mouths telling me everything I know I learned from Fox News, how great Hillary Clinton was and how qualified she was for the job. Then my grandparents said the same thing.. Then my father proceeded to tell me when he's saw my brand new suppressor that only assassins need something like that..I was shocked we used to camp and shoot together I asked my dad why he hated freedom and then we got into a pretty big argument and I got in my car and came home.. probably going to avoid that place for another few months. Anyone else have this issue? Bunch of fuckin kool-aid drinkers Same boat, although my parents have always been liberals, I was too once, but went to college, and realized the error in my thinking. We just don't talk politics and if they bring it up I just ignore whatever comment they made, and change the subject, or continue with what I was saying. I would suggest if they are they type to want to talk politics just sit them down and explain that do to your contrasting views and beliefs they will not talk about it why you are there, and if they do you will leave. |
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Regardless of political change, keep in mind blood is thicker than any political mindset.
Keep educating yourself and try and have constructive conversations with your Dad. Maybe he can relearn what he instilled in you. Take him shooting, camping and let him know you love him although there may be a separation of political opinion. He will always be your Dad. PS, I left home at 15 and my Mother signed my USMC recruitment papers when I was 17(on my birthday). I am in my 40s now and miss my Dad and suddenly his views on everything seem insignificant. |
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My parents were always very conservative.
My sister on the other hand, is becoming more liberal with each passing day. Won't even let her son (10) own a representation of a gun (dart, squirt, airsoft, etc). Her husband is a Chicago transplant lib, and she has no strong convictions of her own, so she has always fallen in line with her SO. Sad. Very sad. 
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Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Quoted:
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sorry to hear this about your parents, brother... Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit it sounds like they've become disconnected from reality... quiet place, nothing happens, so you know the neighbors are probably the same way... it's a shame, really... I'm sure they're good people, but they just seem to have gotten lost in the bullshit.. |
| My mom thinks she's not. But she is. Actually I think she just agrees with whatever Nancy Grace says. More of a populist, even though she claims conservative. My dad was always more conservative, but I'm not sure he gives a shit nowdays. Years ago I remember him going on some rant about "military type weapons". He's not a gun guy at all, but more of a fudd than an anti. After I got into ARs and took him out a few times, he stopped talking that crap. |
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Try to address each symptom individually.
The silencers are for assassins bullshit: point out that it is mandatory to use a can while shooting in some countries, the Brits call it a muffler, and if you have a few tours I almost guarantee your hearing is near shit so why wouldn't you want to save what hearing you have left? Start there. As far as their politics go, they need to cut the TV off. I believe your parents account for about 20% of MSNBC' s viewership. 
A way to get them to cut off the Communist propaganda faggotry is to encourage them to become active in local charities. Volunteer at a soup kitchen, identify options to help homeless in their area, volunteer with the county's hospice chapter. They can get their bleeding heart on, contribute something needed in their community, and it'll expose them to the realities that government can't fix everything, and that it usually fucks shit up more. You can't do that by not having a relationship with them. And North Carolina is a swing state so their votes matter. Edited- grammar |
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Sucks man, I grew up in a liberal household in Massachusetts....
For me it's the other way around. With my mothers age, she's finally turning to the right side and sends me reminders via text that she's finally understanding where I've been coming from since I was old enough to understand politics myself. |
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So I went home and my parents were sitting in front of MSNBC.. I don't know if it happens with age but I clearly remember my parents becoming more liberal as they became older. Going off into the world at 18 a couple deployments to Iraq and working all over the place distance me a lot from them and I didn't realize what a bunch of fucking liberals they became. We have nothing in common as far as politics and they were running their mouths telling me everything I know I learned from Fox News, how great Hillary Clinton was and how qualified she was for the job. Then my grandparents said the same thing.. Then my father proceeded to tell me when he's saw my brand new suppressor that only assassins need something like that..I was shocked we used to camp and shoot together I asked my dad why he hated freedom and then we got into a pretty big argument and I got in my car and came home.. probably going to avoid that place for another few months. Anyone else have this issue? Bunch of fuckin kool-aid drinkers That sucks, but at least they produced a smart guy such as yourself. My grandparents are libs, I just tell them that their aging brains are no longer able to rationalize common sense properly. |
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I mean..I will still inherit everything. They trust me and all that, know I'm capable and self thinking but I really wish they would stop believing everything bill mahar and madcow says
My sister ran off with a black drug dealer a few years back and she was disowned.. I come from a good family but after that incident my parents went over the liberal deep end. My dad's side is all new Yorkers. My mom isn't so bad.. She's from the south but just walks into her room when I argue with my old man or grandpa Meh.. I'll be fine either way |
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My parents have always been liberals. This ETA: They live in a world where nothing much ever happens, (they think bad things only happen to bad people...) and my parents don't really concern themselves with (the right to) self defense. They mistakenly think that's a job for the police. I pointed out Warren v. District of Columbia to them, and that kinda blew their mind, as they were shocked to find out the truth...but it hasn't changed them much if any. Because they live in a rural East coast town, they don't understand the realities of living in LA where the PD response times can vary widely, especially during a crisis. As we've all seen time and again, when SHTF and society starts to break down, a lot of LE go home to take care of their own. Can't blame them, but we all know where that leaves us. My dad shot rifle to qualify in the service, and my mom shot rifle as a young girl at camp, but that was before electricity, so it's been a while. We didn't have guns in the house , and I was encouraged to NOT play with toy guns. Little good it did them, seeing as how I turned out. Not sure why they then sent me to Boy Scout camp where I spent all my time @ the range. I've never understood why they taught me to be so self-reliant, yet they don't do so themselves. It makes me sad really. My mom is speechless that I watch FNC, and refuses to do so herself. She says "I don't know where we went wrong that you turned out a conservative" ETA2: There is a good reason I keep 3000 miles between us. 
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My parents were hard core conservatives from as far back as I can recall. I remember my Mom, who passed away a couple of years ago at age 92, pointing her crooked finger at me and saying "Never give up your guns". I smiled and said "No problem Mom". I think she only lived another 6 months after that. Don't fight with them OP, just keep your distance and don't discuss politics when you're around them. If they insist, just nod your head and walk away. |
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i actually just got off the phone with my dad.
every summer i go back to MT to spend a couple of weeks with mom and dad. vacation is always great for the first week or so, but eventually, dad and i bang heads. it's like clockwork. i love my dad, but he infuriates me sometimes because he spends a lot of his life trying to find new things to be angry about. something trivial will get the ball rolling--last time it was beethoven--and before long we'll escalate into raised voices and mutual accusations of not listening. after a couple of hours of griping at each other, we'll both stomp off in opposite directions to find a project to work on. that's how we deal with emotion in our family--work. anyway, one year during a post-fight project, it hit me that there was going to come a time when dad wouldn't be around anymore. so i grabbed a bottle of scotch and a couple of glasses, stomped into his shop, and poured us some drinks. told him i was still mad at him, but i loved him so we were going to have a drink without talking, and be mad at each other in the same room. my dad--mr. stoic, whose students refer to him as "the man with no name" due to his eastwood-like bearing--almost cried. hugged me so tight that i might have slipped a disk. we still fight every summer, but at the end of the day, we're family. we can disagree, we can be mad, and we can yell at each other, but that's just part of a healthy relationship. nowadays, getting the fight out of the way (instead of trying not to have it) is usually the beginning of the real vacation. |
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As far as the suppressor, I'd challenge pops to find any murder anywhere in the US that had been committed with a suppressor. It's probably happened at some point, but it's far from a common thing. Sounds like dad believes too much shit he sees in movies. That's the point, they all got away with it. |
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Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Quoted:
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sorry to hear this about your parents, brother... Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Send them south to Rutherford County. Meth, property crime, and murder central. |
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My dad died a long time ago, but my mother has become a lot more conservative than I remember. I don't know that she was ever left of center, but after some conversations with her on how things work, she has become a bitter, hateful conservative on a lot of issues.
Otherwise, I think many older folks have been largely irresponsible, and somewhat selfish. Seeing that they will have to rely on the government to stay afloat probably sways them to the liberal side. They need their handouts to live. They no longer have the fight in them to care about the future, or freedoms, either. They'll be dead soon, and just need that cheddar for today. |
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Sucks man, I grew up in a liberal household in Massachusetts.... For me it's the other way around. With my mothers age, she's finally turning to the right side and sends me reminders via text that she's finally understanding where I've been coming from since I was old enough to understand politics myself. Where in CO are you from? |
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My mom was an anti gun Democrat. When I was a kid living in the sticks I was the only one who never had a .22, although I shot at Boy Scouts and at friend's houses. I just ignored her and bought a rifle when I turned 18. we never discussed guns or politics after I was 18. Sweet wonderful lady and I miss her every day One of my mom's odd things, which I think maybe got worse as she got older, was being a little paranoid at Halloween, so I usually went to her house after my dad died. One year I happened to have a Glock and spare mags on my belt and forgot about it when I took my sport coat off. She never said a peep. My sister's kids almost all have guns despite their parents having no interest or exposure. |
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As far as the suppressor, I'd challenge pops to find any murder anywhere in the US that had been committed with a suppressor. It's probably happened at some point, but it's far from a common thing. Sounds like dad believes too much shit he sees in movies. That's the point, they all got away with it. Which is why we can't have cans in the PRK. Kali believes that if we had them, all guns would suddenly become murderous, and witnesses would not be able to report the source of the origin....as if witnesses are reliable even without the cans. You'd think the PRK being so sensitive to environmental issues would be more concerned about sound pollution and the health hazards of hearing loss without them. No, they just believe everything they've seen in a movie. Derp. |
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As far as the suppressor, I'd challenge pops to find any murder anywhere in the US that had been committed with a suppressor. It's probably happened at some point, but it's far from a common thing. Sounds like dad believes too much shit he sees in movies. Christopher Dorner had a few of them and used them in his various activities. |
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Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Quoted:
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sorry to hear this about your parents, brother... Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Hate to tell you this. I NEVER net a conservative (real one) who became liberal later in life. The opposite I have seen many times. They where either thaat way before and you didn't notice or it didn't show through. |
| I luckily come from an all conservative family. The only liberal in my life is my MIL. She thinks corporations are all run by evil greedy Jews who are out to destroy us all. She loves Hillary and Obama, microwaves cause cancer and she's a vegan with every food allergy possible. |
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Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit Quoted:
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sorry to hear this about your parents, brother... Honestly they weren't like this until they moved to the little town of Lake Lure North Carolina, they live in there safe Mountain House nothing ever happens in the town and the only connection to the outside world is watching that liberal bullshit do they do coffee with the other 12 people that are still watching MSNBC?? |
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Regardless of political change, keep in mind blood is thicker than any political mindset. Keep educating yourself and try and have constructive conversations with your Dad. Maybe he can relearn what he instilled in you. Take him shooting, camping and let him know you love him although there may be a separation of political opinion. He will always be your Dad. PS, I left home at 15 and my Mother signed my USMC recruitment papers when I was 17(on my birthday). I am in my 40s now and miss my Dad and suddenly his views on everything seem insignificant. sorry, I am polar opposite of my brother and his family and we rarely talk.. both parents gone..mother more liberal than dad but both rather conservative, Dad a hardliner that felt Reagan was OK but not conservative enough... OP sorry for you..it can be mind numbing but you'll not change them..just be wary what they teach YOUR Children.. |
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i actually just got off the phone with my dad. every summer i go back to MT to spend a couple of weeks with mom and dad. vacation is always great for the first week or so, but eventually, dad and i bang heads. it's like clockwork. i love my dad, but he infuriates me sometimes because he spends a lot of his life trying to find new things to be angry about. something trivial will get the ball rolling--last time it was beethoven--and before long we'll escalate into raised voices and mutual accusations of not listening. after a couple of hours of griping at each other, we'll both stomp off in opposite directions to find a project to work on. that's how we deal with emotion in our family--work. anyway, one year during a post-fight project, it hit me that there was going to come a time when dad wouldn't be around anymore. so i grabbed a bottle of scotch and a couple of glasses, stomped into his shop, and poured us some drinks. told him i was still mad at him, but i loved him so we were going to have a drink without talking, and be mad at each other in the same room. my dad--mr. stoic, whose students refer to him as "the man with no name" due to his eastwood-like bearing--almost cried. hugged me so tight that i might have slipped a disk. we still fight every summer, but at the end of the day, we're family. we can disagree, we can be mad, and we can yell at each other, but that's just part of a healthy relationship. nowadays, getting the fight out of the way (instead of trying not to have it) is usually the beginning of the real vacation. never knew a Liberal who want wasn't pissed off, didn't matter how well their life was going, what windfalls begotten them, how stable their careers were or wonderful their kids turned out..they were just PISSED off about something..
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My liberal dad gave me some advice when I was younger. Never talk about politics or religion. that is good advice when you have a situation like the op. op tell them you are no longer willing to discuss politics with them. find something you still have in common and talk about that. maybe sports, camping, or the outdoors are topics you should stick to. |