[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Weird Gunbroker Auction (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/20/2015 12:35:20 PM EDT
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So I bid on an AR upper with an ACOG on GB recently and when I got home and looked at it on the computer I noticed the ACOG was a fake. I emailed the seller and told them to cancel my bid because of the fake product and that if I did win I would not pay for it. Well I never heard from them after that until the upper showed up at my house yesterday. I emailed them again last night asking why this was sent to me and they said they had me as the winner and asked if it was sent to the wrong person?
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Wow, I didn't realize that. Quoted:
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Yes they sent it without payment. How did they get your shipping address? It's under my user info on GB Wow, I didn't realize that. Pretty sure the OP was the winning bidder That's why your mailing address was divulged to the seller. |
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The description said "Fiber Optic Scope" then they took a picture of the ACOG stamp on the scope and advertised it as that. It was definitely shady on their part. Quoted:
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Was it advertised as an actual ACOG in the listing? If not, then it's probably on you. The description said "Fiber Optic Scope" then they took a picture of the ACOG stamp on the scope and advertised it as that. It was definitely shady on their part. It was on you to ask questions, before you bid.......like "Is this an AUTHENTIC Trijicon ACOG?". They are only shady if they outright lie. Lets be honest, this is an auction: caveat emptor. I'd send it back. Take the high road. |
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It was on you to ask questions, before you bid.......like "Is this an AUTHENTIC Trijicon ACOG?". They are only shady if they outright lie. Lets be honest, this is an auction: caveat emptor. I'd send it back. Take the high road. Quoted:
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Was it advertised as an actual ACOG in the listing? If not, then it's probably on you. The description said "Fiber Optic Scope" then they took a picture of the ACOG stamp on the scope and advertised it as that. It was definitely shady on their part. It was on you to ask questions, before you bid.......like "Is this an AUTHENTIC Trijicon ACOG?". They are only shady if they outright lie. Lets be honest, this is an auction: caveat emptor. I'd send it back. Take the high road. Id tell them to send me a shipping label, then send it back. Im not paying to return it. |
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Looks like a colt upper but can't tell really, its all used. I'm trying to get ahold of the guy but its not really my fault to place a bid when the item is passed off as an original by blatant name placement in the photos. The seller was being shady it looks like just for this purpose, which is why I messaged him before the auction even ended.
Edited for above: I am definitely not paying to return it. |
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Wow... now I'd be concerned if the seller might be trying to scam someone.
"Dear high bidder, you returned our upper as agreed, but replaced the genuine ACOG with a knockoff optic..." Was the seller an FFL and/or Business? What kinda history are they showing on GunBroker (count/rating)? Maybe it's because the only luck I have is bad, or maybe I'm a cynical SOB... for your sake I hope it was an honest mistake. Good Luck. ETA: beat by a few mins. |
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iv had people send me shit that i had " won" or said i would " buy", but had not paid them yet.
1 was a goretex sleeping back, bought from a first sergeant in hawaii, off ebay. i won the auction, but it took a couple days to message him, and ask about total for shipping.......... i emailed him, asking for the total....... he told me to total, and also he had mailed the sleeping bag a couple days earlier, so i should have it pretty soon........ lol... i mailed him the money, and got the sleeping bag the next day or something. 2, was a arfcommer, who sold me a bfl silver coin....... he already had it mailed the day before..., when i messaged him, and told him i had just mailed him the cash... |
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LOL! Pssst. OP was the seller from NH??  Quoted:
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Do the right thing OP. Put a real ACOG on it and send it back. LOL! Pssst. OP was the seller from NH?? California, its not an FFL but a guy who sells parts on the side it seems but has another business out there. |
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Looks like a colt upper but can't tell really, its all used. I'm trying to get ahold of the guy but its not really my fault to place a bid when the item is passed off as an original by blatant name placement in the photos. The seller was being shady it looks like just for this purpose, which is why I messaged him before the auction even ended. Edited for above: I am definitely not paying to return it. You found out that it was a fake by looking at the photos in the auction. You should have seen this prior to bidding, but you saw it after. I'd be wary about the scam if you send it back. I don't know if it is appropriate or even allowed here, but it would be nice to know who the vendor was so we all can avoid them in the future. Sorry for your troubles. |
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You paid $625 for an upper with a surefire light and an acog and expected them to be real? The light looks fake as well. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497469043 |
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You found out that it was a fake by looking at the photos in the auction. You should have seen this prior to bidding, but you saw it after. I'd be wary about the scam if you send it back. I don't know if it is appropriate or even allowed here, but it would be nice to know who the vendor was so we all can avoid them in the future. Sorry for your troubles. Quoted:
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Looks like a colt upper but can't tell really, its all used. I'm trying to get ahold of the guy but its not really my fault to place a bid when the item is passed off as an original by blatant name placement in the photos. The seller was being shady it looks like just for this purpose, which is why I messaged him before the auction even ended. Edited for above: I am definitely not paying to return it. You found out that it was a fake by looking at the photos in the auction. You should have seen this prior to bidding, but you saw it after. I'd be wary about the scam if you send it back. I don't know if it is appropriate or even allowed here, but it would be nice to know who the vendor was so we all can avoid them in the future. Sorry for your troubles. Maybe later, I bid from my phone. You couldn't tell the ACOG was fake until you looked at the NSN and the reticle on a larger screen. |
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You paid $625 for an upper with a surefire light and an acog and expected them to be real? The light looks fake as well. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497469043 I placed a max bid on it from my phone when it first got listed. |
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The description said "Fiber Optic Scope" then they took a picture of the ACOG stamp on the scope and advertised it as that. It was definitely shady on their part. Quoted:
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Was it advertised as an actual ACOG in the listing? If not, then it's probably on you. The description said "Fiber Optic Scope" then they took a picture of the ACOG stamp on the scope and advertised it as that. It was definitely shady on their part. Oh ya, that's bullshit. If you're going to sell some Airsoft knockoff that's actually branded they need to be damn clear about it. You're totally in the right here. You can label things as "fiber optic scope" but if the ACOG branding is on it, then i'm sure they're violating some of their CoC. You can't sell a fake aimpoint or an ACOG even if you list it as "ACOG Style" |
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Quoted:Maybe later, I bid from my phone. You couldn't tell the ACOG was fake until you looked at the NSN and the reticle on a larger screen. 
Looks like you bought an upper. GunBroker isn't eBay where you can retract bids, and while the buyer was shady about it the pictures did tell the tale. |
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I would not send it back unless you have it in writing from the seller that the ACOG is a fake.
If you do, you are opening yourself up for a problem. Since you did not pay for it, and it was a fraudulent auction, I would be reluctant to return it. You are being set up for a scam. |
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Looks like you bought an upper. GunBroker isn't eBay where you can retract bids, and while the buyer was shady about it the pictures did tell the tale. Quoted:
Quoted:Maybe later, I bid from my phone. You couldn't tell the ACOG was fake until you looked at the NSN and the reticle on a larger screen.
Looks like you bought an upper. GunBroker isn't eBay where you can retract bids, and while the buyer was shady about it the pictures did tell the tale. I don't see that as I bid on what was displayed as an ACOG with the intent to pass it as an ACOG. The fact that it is counterfeit negates any bid placed in the understanding that the product was legit. This was identified before the auction was over. |
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I would not send it back unless you have it in writing from the seller that the ACOG is a fake. If you do, you are opening yourself up for a problem. Since you did not pay for it, and it was a fraudulent auction, I would be reluctant to return it. You are being set up for a scam. I sent a message to GB as well, because I'm curious as to how they view this scenario. |
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Quoted: Funny, I was just looking at some of their auctions last night. Check out their 80% lowers, they make knock off Colt logos but with a goat instead of a horse in the logo. Get it, their username is cold goat.  Yeah, these guys are legit. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/1BMF/C0CF7402-0D89-4B7E-996A-920AF1AF52E0_zps1oyzbsyf.jpg That's so entertaining I almost want one. |
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Wow... now I'd be concerned if the seller might be trying to scam someone. "Dear high bidder, you returned our upper as agreed, but replaced the genuine ACOG with a knockoff optic..." Was the seller an FFL and/or Business? What kinda history are they showing on GunBroker (count/rating)? Maybe it's because the only luck I have is bad, or maybe I'm a cynical SOB... for your sake I hope it was an honest mistake. Good Luck. ETA: beat by a few mins. I'm not sure this would fly since OP had sent notice that he discovered the scope to be not a true ACOG and had declared his bid to be void for that reason prior to the end of the bid, and also gave notice in writing that he would not be paying for it if he was the winning bid. ....assuming OP retained documentation of the email traffic. Seller screwed up sending the upper & scope without payment.....if he wants it back, let them pay for the return. |