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8/9/2015 3:18:19 PM EDT
Hi guys,

Bought my son a 2011 Hyundai Elantra.  He doesn't put too many miles on it, but thus far it has been a pretty nice car.  Safe and rides nicely.

However, 2 times now in the last month the vehicle just wouldn't start.  Got in and all lights and dash lights work fine, full strength.  When attempting to start the car, you turn the key and nothing happens but the dash lights come on--no dimming of the lights like when the battery is dead.  No clicking of the solenoid or anything like that.  No noise at all.  I thought that perhaps it wasn't put in park fully, so I jiggled the gearshift and pushed it towards park, with no effect.  After a couple of minutes, the car eventually started.

Sounds like a starter relay to me......any thoughts how I would test this before taking it to the stealership for warranty work.  Since it can't be replaced at will, I don't want to waste time with 'cannot reproduce'.

Thanks!
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8/9/2015 3:20:41 PM EDT
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Before checking anything else, I would check the battery cable connections.
8/9/2015 3:21:55 PM EDT
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I'll look but every time that I've had corroded terminals it would click and I would see the lights dim indicating a weak power source.
8/9/2015 3:24:05 PM EDT
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Even though it is an auto, does it require the brake pedal to be pressed before starting?
8/9/2015 3:25:40 PM EDT
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is it key or push start , do you have both keys and are they both coded
8/9/2015 3:27:51 PM EDT
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I'll look but every time that I've had corroded terminals it would click and I would see the lights dim indicating a weak power source.
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I'll look but every time that I've had corroded terminals it would click and I would see the lights dim indicating a weak power source.
Bad/loose negative battery cable



 
8/9/2015 3:29:42 PM EDT
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Starter solenoid or relay...
8/9/2015 3:29:44 PM EDT
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This is going to sound retarded.....cause I've been a mechanic most of my life.

My wife sometimes reminds me to read the freekin manual for clues.

She is often right.  

I don't know that specific vehicle.....but if you can find the starter you might check to see if you are getting voltage to the signal side (usually the connector) and check your battery voltage. You might not have enough Amps to do anything but turn your lights on.  Battery more than a couple of years old is suspect.
8/9/2015 3:30:04 PM EDT
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Bad connection is my guess too.

go to autozone and get a charging system check done. Tests starter, alternator, and battery.

That's all my tired brain can offer now
8/9/2015 3:30:13 PM EDT
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Park switch. See if it will start while in neutral.
8/9/2015 3:30:47 PM EDT
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I agree.  I'd start with checking/cleaning the battery cables and the posts, and having the battery tested as well.



 
8/9/2015 3:31:22 PM EDT
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is it key or push start , do you have both keys and are they both coded
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It's auto....normal keyed starting, not push start
8/9/2015 3:33:31 PM EDT
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always start simple...battery terminals first...work out from there.
8/9/2015 3:33:44 PM EDT
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Every Hyundai I have worked on with some miles on it has had wiring problems. Battery to fuse box, fuse box to relay, relay to starter and battery to starter.
8/9/2015 3:33:58 PM EDT
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I just looked at the terminals and they both have the green/red pads underneath them and are clean as a whistle.  It looks like it did when it rolled out of the factory.

I'm thinking it's a starter relay, the real trick is how to get the stealership to be able to reproduce it.
8/9/2015 3:39:55 PM EDT
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Bad cell in battery?
8/9/2015 3:53:45 PM EDT
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I just looked at the terminals and they both have the green/red pads underneath them and are clean as a whistle.  It looks like it did when it rolled out of the factory.

I'm thinking it's a starter relay, the real trick is how to get the stealership to be able to reproduce it.
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Clean or shiny under the clap faces?

You have to take them apart and look.
8/9/2015 3:57:27 PM EDT
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Try starting in neutral
8/9/2015 4:00:39 PM EDT
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Battery.
8/9/2015 4:29:47 PM EDT
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Clean or shiny under the clap faces?

You have to take them apart and look.
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I just looked at the terminals and they both have the green/red pads underneath them and are clean as a whistle.  It looks like it did when it rolled out of the factory.

I'm thinking it's a starter relay, the real trick is how to get the stealership to be able to reproduce it.


Clean or shiny under the clap faces?

You have to take them apart and look.


Will do once it cools down out there, it's in the direct sun and we just drove the car for a while---too hot to deal with right now.
8/9/2015 5:09:58 PM EDT
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Quoted:I don't know that specific vehicle.....but if you can find the starter you might check to see if you are getting voltage to the signal side (usually the connector) and check your battery voltage. You might not have enough Amps to do anything but turn your lights on.  Battery more than a couple of years old is suspect.
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This is where I would go if you can get to the starter easily.

Can also jump power from the large terminal on the starter to the small one. Stated an old scout with the clip off my pocket flashlight like this the other day.
Be very careful if you try this though. Prob best to not even try it if you aren't familiar with the dangers.
8/9/2015 5:21:07 PM EDT
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Sounds like classic starter. Next time it does it tap the relay with a hammer bet it fires right up. A bad battery/connection doesn't magically charge or clean itself after a few minutes...
8/12/2015 9:16:10 PM EDT
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Park switch. See if it will start while in neutral.
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Ding ding ding we have a winner.  It starts in neutral, sounds like a neutral safety switch I think.

Going to take it to the dealer and make them fix it.