Posted: 7/26/2015 4:54:51 PM EDT
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Oh the irony! I find it funny how they mention the difference between MO and CT, and their laws regarding handgun purchases, but no mention of IL
The IL FOID act has been in place for decades now. And yet Chicago makes headlines every week about the murder rates going through the roof. But, as usual, facts are for faggots... 
What worries me most is the fact that they are trying to buy off states to enact this shit. Thankfully, its only in committee and has a low probability to pass, but this cocksucker is trying to force those derpy CT laws on everyone else.... Linky to full text of the bill. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does.
Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. |
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Quoted: Oh the irony! I find it funny how they mention the difference between MS and CT, and their laws regarding handgun purchases, but no mention of IL The IL FOID act has been in place for decades now. And yet Chicago makes headlines every week about the murder rates going through the roof. But, as usual, facts are for faggots... What worries me most is the fact that they are trying to buy off states to enact this shit. Thankfully, its only in committee and has a low probability to pass, but this cocksucker is trying to force those derpy CT laws on everyone else.... Linky to full text of the bill. The states ought just stop sending the Fed the money voluntarily in the first place, and these shenanigans would slow way the fuck down. Whats the percentage of money the states send the Fed that gets consumed while cycling up and back down the process? Scalawags, all. |
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Oh the irony! I find it funny how they mention the difference between MS and CT, and their laws regarding handgun purchases, but no mention of IL The IL FOID act has been in place for decades now. And yet Chicago makes headlines every week about the murder rates going through the roof. But, as usual, facts are for faggots...
What worries me most is the fact that they are trying to buy off states to enact this shit. Thankfully, its only in committee and has a low probability to pass, but this cocksucker is trying to force those derpy CT laws on everyone else.... Linky to full text of the bill. MS is Mississippi. The bill mentions Missouri. Missouri is MO. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. |
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About 30 anti-gun bills introduced by democrat senators since January.
I'm sure glad them democrats learned their lesson in 1994. 
"democrats seem to know when to keep their morality to themselves........I'm saying that on social issues they are a lot more in line with most of America than the (R)s are." |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Except gun owners are more and more numerous, more politically active, less hunting oriented, and support fewer and fewer restrictions as time goes by. |
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I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Executive orders don't take into account how the public feels. Part in red? I'm in. That's my line, and if shit starts over burials and monuments being torn down, I'll head over and help fight that good fight. Enough is enough. |
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Except gun owners are more and more numerous, more politically active, less hunting oriented, and support fewer and fewer restrictions as time goes by. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Except gun owners are more and more numerous, more politically active, less hunting oriented, and support fewer and fewer restrictions as time goes by. Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. |
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I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. This is what I'm seeing... |
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Y'all that are saying I'm wrong are missing something.
Lawful gun owners are a minority in this country. Your children are in a minority. The rest of the country and their children will be taught that "sensible regulations" are needed. And, over the course of a few more decades, they will believe it. Call me a negative Nancy, but we are one minority your average soccer mom and her beta husband won't give two shits about. |
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MS is Mississippi. The bill mentions Missouri. Missouri is MO. Quoted:
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Oh the irony! I find it funny how they mention the difference between MS and CT, and their laws regarding handgun purchases, but no mention of IL The IL FOID act has been in place for decades now. And yet Chicago makes headlines every week about the murder rates going through the roof. But, as usual, facts are for faggots...
What worries me most is the fact that they are trying to buy off states to enact this shit. Thankfully, its only in committee and has a low probability to pass, but this cocksucker is trying to force those derpy CT laws on everyone else.... Linky to full text of the bill. MS is Mississippi. The bill mentions Missouri. Missouri is MO. Thanks, fixed. |
Murphy and Blumenthal are traitors.  This state has unleashed two of the worst senators in US history on the rest of the country. I would apologize, but I assure you, I did everything I could do to dissuade people from voting for these enemies of America. A thousand fucks upon their houses, especially Blumenthal, the attention whoring commie fascist that he is. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. In a decade, my kids will be close to grown. In a decade, my wife should be very sick of me. So, in a decade, if they want to legislate me to be a felon, then a felon they might get. 
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Sec. 4 (d) is racist, if not in its intent, than by its effect, as it will place an undue burden upon members of poor, rural, and immigrant communities who wish to exercise their right but are unable to obtain the identifying documentation required by this law. Its the same argument the left make against voter ID laws. |
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Congress finds as follows:
(1) In 2013, more than 33,000 Americans were killed by guns and almost 90 percent of the firearms used in these deaths were handguns. ~20,000 were suicides. Does Blumenthal think that number will go down, or people will not harm themselves? |
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Passing gun laws is one thing, but getting people to obey them is another. If you place draconian gun laws on top of an ingrained gun culture (which is what we have in America), then all you get is massive noncompliance and a thriving underground trade in guns. People so easily forget the experience with Prohibition. Besides being futile in terms of what it was trying to accomplish, it ended up promoting organized crime.
Maybe England can get away with banning guns, because it didn't have that much of a gun culture to begin with. But even in England, Scotland Yard admits that there are hundreds of thousands of underground guns. The U.S. would have millions of underground guns. |
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~20,000 were suicides. Does Blumenthal think that number will go down, or people will not harm themselves? Quoted:
Congress finds as follows:
(1) In 2013, more than 33,000 Americans were killed by guns and almost 90 percent of the firearms used in these deaths were handguns. ~20,000 were suicides. Does Blumenthal think that number will go down, or people will not harm themselves? They don't care about facts, as facts don't support their position. It's all about messaging. |
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That 25% increase in homicide in MO is so misleading. A couple of years later it was lower than before the repeal. A one year blip is laughable evidence. I browbeat a lib to death on that one and the end result was basically "I want to believe" so it doesn't matter what you show them they will simply repeat the big lie. They purchase a report or a biased 'think tank' generates one and they just repeat it over and over till you grow tired of trying to argue. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. This is what I'm seeing... But the problem is... Bringing them into the fold isn't enough if they won't stand up to be counted... So how do you get them picking up a phone, sending emails, or joining the NRA? Without that step, they're just a panic buyer... |
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Quoted: Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Except gun owners are more and more numerous, more politically active, less hunting oriented, and support fewer and fewer restrictions as time goes by. Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. And comically enough, I think video games may be the one saving grace... As long as they aren't legislated into oblivion, but there are still modders I can't tell you how many 'new gun owners' I've seen and talked to (especially when I used to work at gun shops) that were big gaming fans, that were getting into the real thing. A lot of disinformation about guns from that crowd, but they are usually very moldable and willing to learn, and MUCH more interested in the black rifles, and less discriminatory towards all different kinds of firearms. |
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They don't care about facts, as facts don't support their position. It's all about messaging. Quoted:
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Congress finds as follows:
(1) In 2013, more than 33,000 Americans were killed by guns and almost 90 percent of the firearms used in these deaths were handguns. ~20,000 were suicides. Does Blumenthal think that number will go down, or people will not harm themselves? They don't care about facts, as facts don't support their position. It's all about messaging. Indeed. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Them things ain't legal, Jack. |
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Y'all that are saying I'm wrong are missing something. Lawful gun owners are a minority in this country. Your children are in a minority. The rest of the country and their children will be taught that "sensible regulations" are needed. And, over the course of a few more decades, they will believe it. Call me a negative Nancy, but we are one minority your average soccer mom and her beta husband won't give two shits about. Disagree. I went back and was reading some newspaper articles from the 1960s before they passed the GCA. There were all of these letters to the editor and things people from all over the country were saying about gun control. The arguments were exactly the same as they are today. People were calling for the same "common sense" restrictions then as they are now. While obviously the GCA imposed a lot of regulations, in many respects our firearms law is a lot better today (at least at the state level) than it was back then. People are far more educated because of things like the internet and the simple fact we tried some of these things that didn't work. Another point as far as soccer moms and beta husbands, I live in Baltimore. Prior to Ferguson and the Baltimore riots, a lot of the people I know were indifferent to guns. Now most of the people I know either own guns or want to get one. Even people who previously said they were opposed and didn't see a need are now looking into these issues. The soccer mom/beta thing only works if we have peace. But if you start seeing ISIS and radical attacks more and more around the country, a lot of people will start caring. And usually they turn pro-gun. The whole anti-gun schtick is based on ignorance of the populace. It's not brainwashing as much as talking points to explain away the ignorance. But once people become informed, they always side pro-gun. |
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Here is the Popvox link:
https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/114/s1751 Make yourself heard, write your congress critters. |
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Them things ain't legal, Jack. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Them things ain't legal, Jack. You don't say. |
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Disagree. I went back and was reading some newspaper articles from the 1960s before they passed the GCA. There were all of these letters to the editor and things people from all over the country were saying about gun control. The arguments were exactly the same as they are today. People were calling for the same "common sense" restrictions then as they are now. While obviously the GCA imposed a lot of regulations, in many respects our firearms law is a lot better today (at least at the state level) than it was back then. People are far more educated because of things like the internet and the simple fact we tried some of these things that didn't work. Another point as far as soccer moms and beta husbands, I live in Baltimore. Prior to Ferguson and the Baltimore riots, a lot of the people I know were indifferent to guns. Now most of the people I know either own guns or want to get one. Even people who previously said they were opposed and didn't see a need are now looking into these issues. The soccer mom/beta thing only works if we have peace. But if you start seeing ISIS and radical attacks more and more around the country, a lot of people will start caring. And usually they turn pro-gun. The whole anti-gun schtick is based on ignorance of the populace. It's not brainwashing as much as talking points to explain away the ignorance. But once people become informed, they always side pro-gun. Quoted:
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Y'all that are saying I'm wrong are missing something. Lawful gun owners are a minority in this country. Your children are in a minority. The rest of the country and their children will be taught that "sensible regulations" are needed. And, over the course of a few more decades, they will believe it. Call me a negative Nancy, but we are one minority your average soccer mom and her beta husband won't give two shits about. Disagree. I went back and was reading some newspaper articles from the 1960s before they passed the GCA. There were all of these letters to the editor and things people from all over the country were saying about gun control. The arguments were exactly the same as they are today. People were calling for the same "common sense" restrictions then as they are now. While obviously the GCA imposed a lot of regulations, in many respects our firearms law is a lot better today (at least at the state level) than it was back then. People are far more educated because of things like the internet and the simple fact we tried some of these things that didn't work. Another point as far as soccer moms and beta husbands, I live in Baltimore. Prior to Ferguson and the Baltimore riots, a lot of the people I know were indifferent to guns. Now most of the people I know either own guns or want to get one. Even people who previously said they were opposed and didn't see a need are now looking into these issues. The soccer mom/beta thing only works if we have peace. But if you start seeing ISIS and radical attacks more and more around the country, a lot of people will start caring. And usually they turn pro-gun. The whole anti-gun schtick is based on ignorance of the populace. It's not brainwashing as much as talking points to explain away the ignorance. But once people become informed, they always side pro-gun. How often do you actually talk to kids who are 16-24? I've seen plenty who hunt, but think that only the police and military should have hand guns and modern sporting rifles. And, these kids wear realtree daily, dive pickups, and come from rural communities. The schools are getting them. |
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I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. You're right more people are pro gun than ever. But the people being against obamacare didn't stop it, along with a bunch of others things. They don't care. Laws will tighten at some point probably within the next couple decades as democrats gain even more of a permanent lock on elections. I don't think it will as bad as the post you quoted. Firearms will probably be legal but tightly regulated. Probably an assault weapon ban, possibly NY or CT style and certainly national background checks. Probably tighter regulations on handguns too. Hope I am wrong but don't realistically see how its going to be avoided forever. They only have to win once and its over. We need to win every time. |
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But the problem is... Bringing them into the fold isn't enough if they won't stand up to be counted... So how do you get them picking up a phone, sending emails, or joining the NRA? Without that step, they're just a panic buyer... Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. This is what I'm seeing... But the problem is... Bringing them into the fold isn't enough if they won't stand up to be counted... So how do you get them picking up a phone, sending emails, or joining the NRA? Without that step, they're just a panic buyer... I don't know....I try and educate, steer them in the right direction! What I do know, while discussing 'Guns' with this new generation of "I bought my very first firearm...an AR.. from walmart and Glock from Academy" Mr & Mrs 9 to 5 types.... from work, church, etc... When the topic of 'Registration' or out right ban "turn them all in Mr & Mrs America" comes up.... the answer is the same! "Fuck that I'm not doing anything if it comes to that!" "They can kiss my ass!" etc... I chuckle,shrug my shoulders and smile! Like I mentioned... I try to educate them, give them resources to look at and read! But.....As far as the noobs saying they won't comply! Nous defions..... We defy! America!... It's in our DNA! |
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I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Our country is safer than ever before, but the push for gun control has never been stronger. If the next mass shooting has the wrong people in congress with the wrong president, expect more federal laws. |
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Our country is safer than ever before, but the push for gun control has never been stronger. If the next mass shooting has the wrong people in congress with the wrong president, expect more federal laws. Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Our country is safer than ever before, but the push for gun control has never been stronger. If the next mass shooting has the wrong people in congress with the wrong president, expect more federal laws. Yep. I don't understand how anyone can think "the will of the people" matters one fucking bit to their representatives in the Congress. It may still matter on the state level to a degree, but we'll eventually be fucked federally. |
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Yeah, we are losing ground by the day..... 
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Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. Good thing that some children still have fathers (and uncles) who take them shooting. My "little" niece turned 18 and can't wait for me to take her out shooting. Her folks were against it ... "guns are dangerous" ... but she's all for it so now that she's an adult she can make that decision for herself. |
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Good thing that some children still have fathers (and uncles) who take them shooting. My "little" niece turned 18 and can't wait for me to take her out shooting. Her folks were against it ... "guns are dangerous" ... but she's all for it so now that she's an adult she can make that decision for herself. Quoted:
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Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. Good thing that some children still have fathers (and uncles) who take them shooting. My "little" niece turned 18 and can't wait for me to take her out shooting. Her folks were against it ... "guns are dangerous" ... but she's all for it so now that she's an adult she can make that decision for herself. "Some" is the unfortunate word. I'm not talking about this shit happening immediately, like the next few election cycles. Once the boomers are dead, and generally is in the nursing homes, this country will be screwed. |
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Once the boomers are dead, and generally is in the nursing homes, this country will be screwed The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Generations after them are more pro-gun. If it weren't for the Boomers, we wouldn't even be talking about it, it would have never been an issue. |
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The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Quoted:
Once the boomers are dead, and generally is in the nursing homes, this country will be screwed The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Maybe you're right, social security died with the generation that put it in place. |
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Good thing that some children still have fathers (and uncles) who take them shooting. My "little" niece turned 18 and can't wait for me to take her out shooting. Her folks were against it ... "guns are dangerous" ... but she's all for it so now that she's an adult she can make that decision for herself. Quoted:
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Schools will make children scared and ignorant of firearms. Those children will grow up and vote accordingly. Good thing that some children still have fathers (and uncles) who take them shooting. My "little" niece turned 18 and can't wait for me to take her out shooting. Her folks were against it ... "guns are dangerous" ... but she's all for it so now that she's an adult she can make that decision for herself. I grew up in a home without guns and was part of the public education system in Illinois. I only vote for pro-gun candidates and write my legislators about gun legislation regularly. My kids shoot on a regular basis and we've taken my of their friend out for shooting events too. IMO, what we need to worry about is the restriction of our rights by the 'mental health' angle. That and the no appeal automatic confiscation with just the allegation of DV issues. |
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The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Generations after them are more pro-gun. If it weren't for the Boomers, we wouldn't even be talking about it, it would have never been an issue. Quoted:
Once the boomers are dead, and generally is in the nursing homes, this country will be screwed The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Generations after them are more pro-gun. If it weren't for the Boomers, we wouldn't even be talking about it, it would have never been an issue. Damned right. The younger generations are much more pro-gun. |
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That 25% increase in homicide in MO is so misleading. A couple of years later it was lower than before the repeal. A one year blip is laughable evidence. Don't forget it is Chicago esque in its statistics as well. STL AND KC liberal thug enabling shithole full of statistical lies for the herp se frickin derp fest. 
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Quoted: Yep. I don't understand how anyone can think "the will of the people" matters one fucking bit to their representatives in the Congress. It may still matter on the state level to a degree, but we'll eventually be fucked federally. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. I doubt it. People have such a negative attitude sometimes. With all the shootings we have had and the hard push from Obama for a while there, what has changed? For me, nothing. I can still just as easily buy a handgun from my neighbor or the shop down the street as I could years ago. I sold a gun to an airforce active duty guy yesterday. He said it was his first gun but with all the crazy shit going on he better get one. The declining state of society is actually bringing people into the fold. Those who feel insecure now want a gun to protect themselves because they see no one will do it for them. It's not as bad as you say. Our country is safer than ever before, but the push for gun control has never been stronger. If the next mass shooting has the wrong people in congress with the wrong president, expect more federal laws. Yep. I don't understand how anyone can think "the will of the people" matters one fucking bit to their representatives in the Congress. It may still matter on the state level to a degree, but we'll eventually be fucked federally. |
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If Obama could not get the 2013 Assault Ban through a democratically controlled Senate, while the media covered the airwaves with the details of Sandy Hook, the will of the gun owning populace will not be cowed.
June 2013 had the highest number of NCIS background checks for any June in history. People are speaking with their wallets. |
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Damned right. The younger generations are much more pro-gun. Quoted:
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Once the boomers are dead, and generally is in the nursing homes, this country will be screwed The Boomers ARE the Gun Control generation. Most support for gun control is amongst them. Generations after them are more pro-gun. If it weren't for the Boomers, we wouldn't even be talking about it, it would have never been an issue. Damned right. The younger generations are much more pro-gun. Schumer, Clinton, Feinstein, Obama, Blumenthal, Bloomberg, Manchin. All boomers. |
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Yeah, we are losing ground by the day.....
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Rtc.gif Quoted:
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It'll happen. Probably not within the decade, but his country will handle gun owners the way Europe does. Nothing short of armed revolution will stop it, and there's not enough law abiding gun owners willing to go that far at the same time to make it happen. By 2050, only the political elite will have access to firearms for any reason. Yeah, we are losing ground by the day.....
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Rtc.gif Right to carry is sadly a low fruit when it comes to gun control. Access to firearms is the number one thing they will go for. American gun control is so shoddy and incoherent compared to other countries, which tend to pass more restrictive laws. EX), caliber + magazine restrictions, banning all semi autos, strict licensing whereas they focused more on looks traditionally in the US. I think that will change as they get wiser. Whatever they manage to pass next time at the federal level will make the old AWB look lenient. 
Of course, all that being said, when the laws get too strict they tend to turn to illegal firearms anyways. Take the Paris attacks as an example. Instead of buying AKs legally in France, they went to Belgium. Instead of buying them legally there, they bought illegal versions once again. And then illegally imported them into France. Point being, the gun control there didn't seem to stop the terrorists from getting weapons. Same with the 2011 shootings. The guy used illegal firearms rather than getting a legal Uzi/AK. Of course, the UN isn't interested in smacking down illegal firearms trade and is only interested in harassing citizens from selling/importing firearms legally and other nonsense issues.
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