[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Traffic camera tickets (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/3/2015 1:35:14 PM EDT
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discuss them. Do you pay Do you refuse to pay Do you fight it Do you ignore them. Have not had One in a long time. I fought the last one and it got dismissed because it was snapped durring a LEGAL right on red. Lesson: don't blindly pay legal looking shit. |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera.
The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. 
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I hate them and I'm a cop... http://makeameme.org/media/created/They-took-our-gggfx8.jpg Uh no, but rear end collisions do go up when these cams are installed so they say it's about safety, but that's complete BS... |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. DC? I used the following site to get out of a DC ticket a while back: Www.parkingticket.com IT WORKS. Site says its for traffic tickets like yours too. Iirc, you send them a copy of your ticket and they send you back a PDF with dozens of legal arguments why DC is required to dismiss your ticket. You print it out, sign it then (this is important) send it by return-receipt-requested mail. You have nothing to lose. Worked for me inDC. |
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Those all got removed from the town I lived in back in Ohio because they basically just sent you a conviction in the mail. Some ambulance chaser got the entire company thrown out because he said there was no due process. The system they were using was just for money, the company who owned the cameras got 1/2 and the town they were installed in got the other 1/2. |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. You moved there, You know how to fix the problem, Your smart enough 
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Job thieving sum bitches huh? Maybe they are just making you look bad cuz they are actually doing their job as intended. Quoted:
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I hate them and I'm a cop... Job thieving sum bitches huh? Maybe they are just making you look bad cuz they are actually doing their job as intended. 
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Job thieving sum bitches huh? Maybe they are just making you look bad cuz they are actually doing their job as intended. Quoted:
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I hate them and I'm a cop... Job thieving sum bitches huh? Maybe they are just making you look bad cuz they are actually doing their job as intended. Andddd we're off! |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. You moved there, You know how to fix the problem, Your smart enough Snicker. 
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Never had one. I did think it would be great Dick move to steal someone's car, run a bunch of red lights, then return it like nothing happened. Great way to get some revenge? That happened in Chattanooga TN years ago. Some kids stole license plates from cars similar in make, model and color to their own. Replaced their tags with the stolen ones then proceeded to run every traffic camera several hundred times over the course of a night. Then replaced the plates on the cars they took them from. They did this several weekends in a row. It caused such a nightmare in traffic court. They were finally caught one weekend when a cop witnessed them running a redlight and stopped them. He discovered the plates didn't match the VIN on the insurance information, began to dig and the teens admitted to what they had done. |
| I got a couple speeding camera tickets in DC years ago. I did some research, the DC courts have tied themselves into jurisprudential pretzels to allow it, so no point in fighting those. I just paid them. $50 and no points on my license, I have better things to do than worry about that. |
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You will never have to deal with that nonsense here in NH.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XX/236/236-130.htm |
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In Texas they are civil infractions and can't be held against your credit and only two counties will prevent you from registration until they are payed. Exactly. They will send you hate mail and try to scare you by saying the fines will go up, but you don't really have to pay and they can't do anything to you if you don't. |
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I got a couple speeding camera tickets in DC years ago. I did some research, the DC courts have tied themselves into jurisprudential pretzels to allow it, so no point in fighting those. I just paid them. $50 and no points on my license, I have better things to do than worry about that. Radar cameras are illegal here. 
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| They are a money making scam for the city. My mother received one, didn't even state what she was receiving a ticket for, you just get a couple snap shots of your vehicle at an intersection. We fought it, I had to guess what the actual infraction was, they reduced the ticket 50%. They never commented on what the infraction was. It's a scam. |
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Radar cameras are illegal here. Quoted:
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I got a couple speeding camera tickets in DC years ago. I did some research, the DC courts have tied themselves into jurisprudential pretzels to allow it, so no point in fighting those. I just paid them. $50 and no points on my license, I have better things to do than worry about that. Radar cameras are illegal here. I'd imagine that they're illegal just about anywhere that has a crayon-picture understanding of the Constitution. DC does not. This is merely one manifestation of the phenomenon, which is even more ironic given that the original document is housed there. |
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I'd imagine that they're illegal just about anywhere that has a crayon-picture understanding of the Constitution. DC does not. This is merely one manifestation of the phenomenon, which is even more ironic given that the original document is housed there. Quoted:
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I got a couple speeding camera tickets in DC years ago. I did some research, the DC courts have tied themselves into jurisprudential pretzels to allow it, so no point in fighting those. I just paid them. $50 and no points on my license, I have better things to do than worry about that. Radar cameras are illegal here. I'd imagine that they're illegal just about anywhere that has a crayon-picture understanding of the Constitution. DC does not. This is merely one manifestation of the phenomenon, which is even more ironic given that the original document is housed there. http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/auto_enforce.html Arizona being one. |
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I'd imagine that they're illegal just about anywhere that has a crayon-picture understanding of the Constitution. DC does not. This is merely one manifestation of the phenomenon, which is even more ironic given that the original document is housed there. Quoted:
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I got a couple speeding camera tickets in DC years ago. I did some research, the DC courts have tied themselves into jurisprudential pretzels to allow it, so no point in fighting those. I just paid them. $50 and no points on my license, I have better things to do than worry about that. Radar cameras are illegal here. I'd imagine that they're illegal just about anywhere that has a crayon-picture understanding of the Constitution. DC does not. This is merely one manifestation of the phenomenon, which is even more ironic given that the original document is housed there. If you are ever in McLean, I'll buy you a cold tasty beer. At least someone around here understands the great irony that is (sadly) our nations capitol. |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. You moved there, You know how to fix the problem, Your smart enough *you're
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There was a shitstorm in Maryland a few years ago over these. Every picture was supposed to be examined by one of the traffic cops, checked for validity, electronically signed, and sent out.
Then somebody realized that one of the signatures was of a cop who had died from a heart attack the previous year. They had another one with some speed cameras there, they were taking photos of stationary cars at red lights, and saying they were traveling over the speed limit. |
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They got rid of them here last year. Once it became public the shenaigans involving the "Leasing" and "Service Contracts" nevermind the dicking around with timing, it was only a matter of time. You can always tell who's behind some new bullshit just by seeing who in trenton they're related to. |
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DC? I used the following site to get out of a DC ticket a while back: Www.parkingticket.com IT WORKS. Site says its for traffic tickets like yours too. Iirc, you send them a copy of your ticket and they send you back a PDF with dozens of legal arguments why DC is required to dismiss your ticket. You print it out, sign it then (this is important) send it by return-receipt-requested mail. You have nothing to lose. Worked for me inDC. Quoted:
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. DC? I used the following site to get out of a DC ticket a while back: Www.parkingticket.com IT WORKS. Site says its for traffic tickets like yours too. Iirc, you send them a copy of your ticket and they send you back a PDF with dozens of legal arguments why DC is required to dismiss your ticket. You print it out, sign it then (this is important) send it by return-receipt-requested mail. You have nothing to lose. Worked for me inDC. I'll check it out, but like dbrowne was just saying.. The DC court system doesn't always care about upholding the law, they just want their money. I'm about 90% sure that you are not even entitled to a court hearing for DC camera tickets. You are instead given an "administrative review" and the administrator decides whether or not you still have to pay your ticket. Traffic tickets are really just a tax in the eyes of the DC government. |
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I'll check it out, but like dbrowne was just saying.. The DC court system doesn't always care about upholding the law, they just want their money. I'm about 90% sure that you are not even entitled to a court hearing for DC camera tickets. You are instead given an "administrative review" and the administrator decides whether or not you still have to pay your ticket. Traffic tickets are really just a tax in the eyes of the DC government. Quoted:
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. DC? I used the following site to get out of a DC ticket a while back: Www.parkingticket.com IT WORKS. Site says its for traffic tickets like yours too. Iirc, you send them a copy of your ticket and they send you back a PDF with dozens of legal arguments why DC is required to dismiss your ticket. You print it out, sign it then (this is important) send it by return-receipt-requested mail. You have nothing to lose. Worked for me inDC. I'll check it out, but like dbrowne was just saying.. The DC court system doesn't always care about upholding the law, they just want their money. I'm about 90% sure that you are not even entitled to a court hearing for DC camera tickets. You are instead given an "administrative review" and the administrator decides whether or not you still have to pay your ticket. Traffic tickets are really just a tax in the eyes of the DC government. I fought the law and the law won, That damn one underneath the GW hospital circle got me. |
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Quoted: So photographs do lie? Quoted: Quoted: Cameras can't be cross-examined, thus they are considered "hearsay" without corroborating the testimony of a direct witness in the state of Oklahoma. So photographs do lie? Sometimes or they dont show everything. There may be a valid reason for not stopping. It took awhile but the cameras were run out of FL. |
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Quoted: So photographs do lie? Quoted: Quoted: Cameras can't be cross-examined, thus they are considered "hearsay" without corroborating the testimony of a direct witness in the state of Oklahoma. So photographs do lie? Hearsay is not admissible evidence unless it falls under an exception allowed under the rules of evidence. In order to be considered, the proper foundation needs to be laid by an actual "witness", meaning a person who testifies in court because you can't cross examine a photograph. Due process requires that you be able to examine a witness against you. It isn't necessarily that a photograph lies but there can be other issues as a photograph can't testify when it was taken or that it hasn't been altered. True, they can superimpose a date on it but who is to say that the date on the machine was set correctly? Anyway, |
| My girlfriend's mom called me the other night asking about this very thing. She got one in the mail Monday for going through a stop sigh on Long Island. Now, the car in the pic isn't hers, the license plate isn't hers, and we live a solid 90 minutes from the city. I told her to call the contact number on the ticket and tell them to run the plate. They'll see that not only is the car not hers, she's NEVER owned that kind of car before (a Dodge Charger.) It's weird that the ticket was mailed to her because they own a Dodge Dart and a Ram pickup, but everything else is wrong and they DO NOT go to that shithole. EVER. |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. DC? I used the following site to get out of a DC ticket a while back: Www.parkingticket.com IT WORKS. Site says its for traffic tickets like yours too. Iirc, you send them a copy of your ticket and they send you back a PDF with dozens of legal arguments why DC is required to dismiss your ticket. You print it out, sign it then (this is important) send it by return-receipt-requested mail. You have nothing to lose. Worked for me inDC. I'll check it out, but like dbrowne was just saying.. The DC court system doesn't always care about upholding the law, they just want their money. I'm about 90% sure that you are not even entitled to a court hearing for DC camera tickets. You are instead given an "administrative review" and the administrator decides whether or not you still have to pay your ticket. Traffic tickets are really just a tax in the eyes of the DC government. I fought the law and the law won, That damn one underneath the GW hospital circle got me. I know the one... Maybe a week ago I literally had to lock up my brakes from about 12-15 over to avoid getting ticketed from that camera. You don't see it and it's at the bottom of pretty steep hill. |
| Personally if I ever get another one I'll fight it. In this state they have no legal standing. Instead the cameras are run by a third party company and and the tickets are sent on non governmental letterhead. Why? Because there is a LAW in my state that prohibits law enforcement from using any pictorial or video evidence to charge or ticket any person after the fact. So, to have a red light camera ticket on police stationary sent by certified mail, in my state, would be illegal. all I have to do is quote that law, challenge them to provide me with my accuser in court, and demand they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I have committed any crime. |
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Edit: Speed Camera, not a Red Light Camera. The People's Republic of DC sent me another one yesterday. $150 for speeding at 41 in a 25 on South Dakota Avenue. I remember driving that fast there on that particular day... The only problem is that I was in fact doing 41 and accelerating on the on-ramp between South Dakota Avenue and E Hwy 50- where the speed limit is 55. I totally disagree with the ticket, but I haven't decided whether or not I'll pay it yet. I hope DC sinks into the swamp it was built on. You moved there, You know how to fix the problem, Your smart enough What about his smart enough? 
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I should pull mine out (no, not my penis). I got one while driving an ambulance. I wasn't going Code 3 but I had a patient in the back. No traffic and I wasn't going to slam on the brakes.
My ambulance company put it all on me so I said fuck that and didn't pay. They sent it to a collection agency and I think it's up to nearly $800. Don't live n that state anymore so fk them. |