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3/14/2003 6:29:59 PM EDT
If you have a big screen hooked up to a surround sound with 6 speakers and also a seperate dvd player hooked up what is the problem if every time you watch a dvd after the first few minutes of the dvd as in maybe 10 or so the receiver turns itself off.
How about if you buy a new dvd player and the same thing happens.
having a poorly spliced speaker wire couldnt do this could it?
How about just having the whole thing hooked up wrong? but if it is hooked up wrong how could it play the video and audio?
Could there be an internal prob with the receiver?
Any help and idead greatly appreciated.
3/14/2003 6:54:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Are you using regluar analog connections?  (not the digital coax or optical)  Do you have a VCR?  If so, connect it to the receiver's inputs for the DVD player and see if it does the same thing.

If it does not, then try the DVD in the VCR inputs.  I'm leaning towards a receiver problem since it's a long shot that the DVD itself is causing the receiver to shut down.

3/14/2003 7:06:49 PM EDT
[#2]
If you get video and audio from any external device regardless of what input you have it hooked up to. You hooked it up correctly. I am guessing that you are not using a "Home Theater in a Box" and you are using a stand alone dvd player and hooking it to the reciever.
Ok I see you have 6 speakers the front left, the front right, the center channel, the left rear, and the right rear, and the sub woofer. If you want to play back the dvd in Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS you must use either a digital coax or a tosh link cable. Hard core home thearter nuts (like me) will tell you that the tosh link is the best of the two for digital audio playback. However it is a fiber optic cable and can be damaged if it is bent at too agressive an angle. Your problems are most likly either with the reciever or cables. Another possability can be an issue with power spikes or surges. (not uncommon as youj might think). Its been a while since I had a discussion on Home Thearter setups. I'd be happy to help you troubleshoot your issue. Post the makes and models of all your equipment and I can be of better help to you.
3/14/2003 7:19:45 PM EDT
[#3]
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Are you using regluar analog connections?  (not the digital coax or optical)  Do you have a VCR?  If so, connect it to the receiver's inputs for the DVD player and see if it does the same thing.

If it does not, then try the DVD in the VCR inputs.  I'm leaning towards a receiver problem since it's a long shot that the DVD itself is causing the receiver to shut down.

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NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Do not EVER hook a DVD Player to a VCR (unless you like your movies in psychadelic pulsating colors)... DVDs are designed NOT to work while plugged into a VCR...

Also, your problem is that you are tripping the THERMAL PROTECTION on your reciever. I've seen it before, fixed it before, and it's easy to recognise. There are 3 possible causes:

Cause 1:
You stacked a whole pile of stuff on top of the reciever, or put it in too tight of a cabinet. Don't do this, as recievers (like computers) need room to breathe... It gets hot, the thermal-protect trips, and off it goes... You should have at least an inch between the top, left, rear, and right sides and any other object so as to allow ventilation...


Cause 2:

Either the speakers or the speaker wire... You should be using a matched set of 4 home theater speakers (NOT the 3ftx2ft 3-way 12" woofer speakers you would connect to an old-style stereo system), a center channel and a sub... Your wire should be at least 16 gauge... Check that, replace any cheap thin speaker wire you may be using, and try again with the DVD... This will cause your problem by trying to force too much power down too thin a wire, creating heat buildup, and Ka-Poof... Off it goes... The speakers can also cause trouble if they are too big, depending on the system (remember: 600wats = 100 per speaker)...

Cause 3:
If the above is not the case, you got a busted reciever... Hope you didn't buy it at Wally World or Office Depot (and if you did, please don't try to return it for warranty service at RadioShack. We hate it when people do that...)...

The easiest (& least expensive) way to get a home-theater is to get a 'Home Theater in a Box' system... It handles the cable/speaker issues for you, all you need is the cables to plug your DVD & other components into the reciever...

Second Note: Surround Sound & Cables...

You cannot actually get surround sound without using either Fiber Optic (aka Toslink) or 'Coaxial Digital' (aka PCM Audio) cable... RCA ('phono') cable (that red/white/yellow stuff) does NOT carry a surround-sound signal, only a stereo one...

I sell this stuff, I know...
3/14/2003 7:27:34 PM EDT
[#4]
I hooked the red white yellow cable from the dvd to the receiver to audio left right and dvd in and the thing works but only the front left and right speakers work and the su woofer.
do i use these and the digital coax?
i see the digital coax on the dvd but where do i hook that to on the receiver? and do i need a special cable or any rca cable for that?
it is a mitsu big screen tv and a keenwood 600 watt surround system with the 6 speakers and receiver all coming together and the sony dvd player added later all bought within the last 6 months. all is plugged into a huge power surge protector strip and all the cales from component to component are the expensive ones except for the rca crap things from dvd to rec. and havent upgraded to monster speaker wire yet either.
3/14/2003 7:35:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Definitely sounds like you are tripping the protective circuits.

I'm also wondering if you are working the amp too hard by using very low Ohm speakers.

Check the Ohm rating on the speakers and check the manual on the receiver.

Is the receiver rated to handle the impedance of your speakers?

Are you daisy chaining multiple speakers off the same outputs?  Putting 2 sets of 4 ohm speakers on a single output drops the impedance to 2 ohms, which requires a pretty robust amplifier to drive.
3/14/2003 7:46:29 PM EDT
[#6]
All of the speakers came with the receiver as a package deal. Its a Kenwood system and each speaker has its on output.
I am so freakin confused and pissed.
AAGGGHHHH!!!!!!
Im starting to think I know what will make good target practice next week at the range!!!!!!
3/14/2003 7:47:55 PM EDT
[#7]
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I hooked the red white yellow cable from the dvd to the receiver to audio left right and dvd in and the thing works but only the front left and right speakers work and the su woofer.
do i use these and the digital coax?
i see the digital coax on the dvd but where do i hook that to on the receiver? and do i need a special cable or any rca cable for that?
it is a mitsu big screen tv and a keenwood 600 watt surround system with the 6 speakers and receiver all coming together and the sony dvd player added later all bought within the last 6 months. all is plugged into a huge power surge protector strip and all the cales from component to component are the expensive ones except for the rca crap things from dvd to rec. and havent upgraded to monster speaker wire yet either.
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OK, so you DO have a 'home theatre in a box' system... And since it's Kenwood, it sounds like you got it from Sears... This means [b]THE SPEAKERS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM[/b], and [b] YOUR WIRE IS OK (but not great. 16 guage is better, and a 50ft roll is only $8.99 at RS) TOO[/b]!!! This means your speaker wire is ok, so check the heat angle. If this doesn't fix it, take it back for an exchange, it's busted...

You don't need 'Monster Cable' for your speaker wire (although as noted above, some heavy duty regular speaker wire would help), but you do need to throw away that R/W/Y RCA cable that came with the DVD.

Here is what you need to buy in order to get surround sound:

IF your DVD player has one of these

[img]http://www.radioshack.com/images/ProductCatalog/ProductImage/15/m15-1979.jpg[/img]

sticking out of the back, buy a S-Video/Toslink combo cable (RS P/N: 15-1594, $29.99)

If not, you need P/Ns 15-1090 (The Digital PCM cable) and 15-1510 (a separate S-Video cable). Fiber will actually be less expensive in this case (at least at RS), and it's better...

You will need an additional 15-1510 to connect your reciever to the TV...

You may then find a creative use for your el-cheapo cables that came with the DVD... Poor man's rifle sling, anyone???
3/14/2003 7:49:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Okay, I assume the ins and outs are color coded and pretty dummy proof, eh?

I'll also assume that if you stripped the wires and are inserting bare wires into spring clips, that you don't have a loose strand of wire that is touching the adjacent terminal, causing a short.  (burned out 1 channel of my Kenwood this way)

Since you are getting sound, I would think you have things hooked up correctly.

Now provided you don't have your 20 year porn collection stack on top of the receiver cutting off the airflow, [b]you have a defective unit.[/b] (don't tell your wife that your [i]unit[/i] is defective, it might scare her)

Return it.