Posted: 5/27/2015 8:31:46 PM EDT
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I just came across something that peaked my interest A..... 1964 toyota landcruiser 60k miles Inline 6 (original) Standard 4wd Short wheel base Removable Hard top (no roll bar) Original wheels(ok) and interior(shot) Runs and drives (brakes will need work) Not dents Some rust(nothing major) original pto driven winch (works) I know a little bit about classic cars but nothing about landcruisers Sooooo guys what's a rough idea on value Ps. Will Try to get pics from owner(no eta though) |
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$10-20K 
I've got a '77 FJ40 if your interested. First year for front disc brakes. 2R motor. 8374 Warn winch. Needs paint. Shit by your estimate it's pushing $25K!! Done! Sold!! Let's not get overly excited. It'll cost 3 times that much at least to restore it. |
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yes its fj 40
and while it has no major rust issues (like holes) it does have some rust and has been sitting under a overhang for a couple of years. it runs and drives but will need a good amount of work to be a daily driver, the 1st picture is of a different model, but it looks similar to the condition of the landcruiser I'm looking at except for the missing parts |
| I bought a 65 two and a half years ago in what sounds like similar condition for $2000. They are worth a lot restored, but it takes a lot of time and money to get them there. As others have pointed out, get thee to IH8MUD.COM and do some reading. Where are you and the FJ located? |
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I've got a '77 FJ40 if your interested. First year for front disc brakes. 2R motor. 8374 Warn winch. Needs paint. Shit by your estimate it's pushing $25K!! Done! Sold!! Let's not get overly excited. It'll cost 3 times that much at least to restore it. Quoted:
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$10-20K
I've got a '77 FJ40 if your interested. First year for front disc brakes. 2R motor. 8374 Warn winch. Needs paint. Shit by your estimate it's pushing $25K!! Done! Sold!! Let's not get overly excited. It'll cost 3 times that much at least to restore it. No thanks. http://portland.craigslist.org/search/cta?srchType=T&query=fj40 |
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this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? |
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What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Quoted:
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this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" |
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this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" Um, no. That's an FJ45LV. |
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<a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg</a> Just posting some motivation.... <a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg</a> I was eyeballing FJ60's and FJ62's about 6 months ago. If that one is yours, that is in awesome shape! I ended up buying this former fire chief's truck instead: 
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I was eyeballing FJ60's and FJ62's about 6 months ago. If that one is yours, that is in awesome shape! I ended up buying this former fire chief's truck instead: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/gryphon1994/2015-02-28%2010.37.26_zpsaxhl0ai2.jpg Quoted:
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<a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg</a> Just posting some motivation.... <a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg</a> I was eyeballing FJ60's and FJ62's about 6 months ago. If that one is yours, that is in awesome shape! I ended up buying this former fire chief's truck instead: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/gryphon1994/2015-02-28%2010.37.26_zpsaxhl0ai2.jpg Yep, its mine. A long term project. Its had the seats redone, along with the paint, and just topped 200,000 on the original motor. |
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Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" Quoted:
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this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" I am serious. When I think FJ55, this is what I picture: 
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Um, no. That's an FJ45LV. Quoted:
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this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" Um, no. That's an FJ45LV. Oh, okay, that makes more sense. Thanks! |
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Some rust usually means lots of rust.
Original paint? If it truly is original, and there truly is only a very small amount of rust, it could be quite valuable (if all original). I'd say offer $7k - $9k If it is a rust free survivor, it's worth closer to $15k to $20k. I had a 1968 FJ40 before I sold it, and now drive a very nice 200 series. |
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$10-20K
I've got a '77 FJ40 if your interested. First year for front disc brakes. 2R motor. 8374 Warn winch. Needs paint. Shit by your estimate it's pushing $25K!! Done! Sold!! Let's not get overly excited. It'll cost 3 times that much at least to restore it. No thanks. http://portland.craigslist.org/search/cta?srchType=T&query=fj40 You totally missed my sarcasm. Or I didn't convey it well enough. At any rate mine is NOT for sale. Thank you very much. |
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Yep, its mine. A long term project. Its had the seats redone, along with the paint, and just topped 200,000 on the original motor. Quoted:
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<a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg</a> Just posting some motivation.... <a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg</a> I was eyeballing FJ60's and FJ62's about 6 months ago. If that one is yours, that is in awesome shape! I ended up buying this former fire chief's truck instead: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/gryphon1994/2015-02-28%2010.37.26_zpsaxhl0ai2.jpg Yep, its mine. A long term project. Its had the seats redone, along with the paint, and just topped 200,000 on the original motor. Inline 6 cylinder right? I have heard that was like the most bullet proof engine ever. |
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The problem, I think, with any old FJ40 is the engine and the gearing.
It might top out at 60 or 65 MPH on the interstate. When I was looking at old FJ's about 6 months ago, I did see a bunch that had a Chevy 350 dropped in it instead. I am assuming that helped the top end. |
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Inline 6 cylinder right? I have heard that was like the most bullet proof engine ever. Quoted:
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<a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg</a> Just posting some motivation.... <a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg</a> I was eyeballing FJ60's and FJ62's about 6 months ago. If that one is yours, that is in awesome shape! I ended up buying this former fire chief's truck instead: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/gryphon1994/2015-02-28%2010.37.26_zpsaxhl0ai2.jpg Yep, its mine. A long term project. Its had the seats redone, along with the paint, and just topped 200,000 on the original motor. Inline 6 cylinder right? I have heard that was like the most bullet proof engine ever. yep, started the project here: 
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<a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000702_zps1nvludb7.jpg</a> Just posting some motivation.... <a href="http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000712_zpsfsijstx5.jpg</a> That I could go with. An old FJ-40 = money pit. I liked the 4 door rusty one though. But I wouldn't give more than 500.00 for the one pictured. 3/4 ton 4wd Suburban works for me. And a decent one can be had for 1500. to 5000.00. all day. |
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yes its fj 40 and while it has no major rust issues (like holes) it does have some rust and has been sitting under a overhang for a couple of years. it runs and drives but will need a good amount of work to be a daily driver, the 1st picture is of a different model, but it looks similar to the condition of the landcruiser I'm looking at except for the missing parts Sitting is hard on these trucks. Look around the top where the fiberglass and the metal meet; often the fiberglass will be starting to rot if it's not already and if the top leaks you can pretty much bet it's rusted inside where the rear fenders meet the quarter panels. They rust along the tailgate/doors (depending on which model (some had drop down gates and some have two small doors, not like the larger ambulance doors on the later models. Floorboard are bad about rusting out too. Count on the felt seals in the Birfields being dried out and needing to be replaced which means you might as well rebuild them while you're in there. As a daily driver they leave a lot to be desired. For one they aren't that quick and with no insulation they are loud and hot. The F engine is basically a metric copy of the old GM 236 inline six albeit a much better engine than the original. It is cast and therefore very heavy which helps with climbing but not fuel economy- they tend to be very thirsty engines, especially if you start trying to tweak them. The number one and number six valves will burn if it overheats or runs lean so be away of that. Unless the front axle has been swapped for a later model (popular), it will have drum brakes on the front and while they stop the vehicle well under ideal conditions and when properly adjusted, they can be a pain to deal with as they use two cylinders per wheel and are not self adjusting. If it's been sitting there is a better than average chance the parking brake is frozen too and it's a separate drum brake on propeller shaft just behind the transmission. the three speed transmission and 236 will be working hard to run highway speeds. Birfields are tough hubs but can be a pain to rebuild and if you apply much power while the wheels are fully turned and in 4wd the engine has the torque to grenade them. Many of the bolts used throughout will rust and then snap when you try to remove them even after soaking in Kroil. All of that said, they are easily one of the best 4wd vehicles ever made. |
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Sitting is hard on these trucks. Look around the top where the fiberglass and the metal meet; often the fiberglass will be starting to rot if it's not already and if the top leaks you can pretty much bet it's rusted inside where the rear fenders meet the quarter panels. They rust along the tailgate/doors (depending on which model (some had drop down gates and some have two small doors, not like the larger ambulance doors on the later models. Floorboard are bad about rusting out too. Count on the felt seals in the Birfields being dried out and needing to be replaced which means you might as well rebuild them while you're in there. As a daily driver they leave a lot to be desired. For one they aren't that quick and with no insulation they are loud and hot. The F engine is basically a metric copy of the old GM 236 inline six albeit a much better engine than the original. It is cast and therefore very heavy which helps with climbing but not fuel economy- they tend to be very thirsty engines, especially if you start trying to tweak them. The number one and number six valves will burn if it overheats or runs lean so be away of that. Unless the front axle has been swapped for a later model (popular), it will have drum brakes on the front and while they stop the vehicle well under ideal conditions and when properly adjusted, they can be a pain to deal with as they use two cylinders per wheel and are not self adjusting. If it's been sitting there is a better than average chance the parking brake is frozen too and it's a separate drum brake on propeller shaft just behind the transmission. the three speed transmission and 236 will be working hard to run highway speeds. Birfields are tough hubs but can be a pain to rebuild and if you apply much power while the wheels are fully turned and in 4wd the engine has the torque to grenade them. Many of the bolts used throughout will rust and then snap when you try to remove them even after soaking in Kroil. All of that said, they are easily one of the best 4wd vehicles ever made. Quoted:
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yes its fj 40 and while it has no major rust issues (like holes) it does have some rust and has been sitting under a overhang for a couple of years. it runs and drives but will need a good amount of work to be a daily driver, the 1st picture is of a different model, but it looks similar to the condition of the landcruiser I'm looking at except for the missing parts Sitting is hard on these trucks. Look around the top where the fiberglass and the metal meet; often the fiberglass will be starting to rot if it's not already and if the top leaks you can pretty much bet it's rusted inside where the rear fenders meet the quarter panels. They rust along the tailgate/doors (depending on which model (some had drop down gates and some have two small doors, not like the larger ambulance doors on the later models. Floorboard are bad about rusting out too. Count on the felt seals in the Birfields being dried out and needing to be replaced which means you might as well rebuild them while you're in there. As a daily driver they leave a lot to be desired. For one they aren't that quick and with no insulation they are loud and hot. The F engine is basically a metric copy of the old GM 236 inline six albeit a much better engine than the original. It is cast and therefore very heavy which helps with climbing but not fuel economy- they tend to be very thirsty engines, especially if you start trying to tweak them. The number one and number six valves will burn if it overheats or runs lean so be away of that. Unless the front axle has been swapped for a later model (popular), it will have drum brakes on the front and while they stop the vehicle well under ideal conditions and when properly adjusted, they can be a pain to deal with as they use two cylinders per wheel and are not self adjusting. If it's been sitting there is a better than average chance the parking brake is frozen too and it's a separate drum brake on propeller shaft just behind the transmission. the three speed transmission and 236 will be working hard to run highway speeds. Birfields are tough hubs but can be a pain to rebuild and if you apply much power while the wheels are fully turned and in 4wd the engine has the torque to grenade them. Many of the bolts used throughout will rust and then snap when you try to remove them even after soaking in Kroil. All of that said, they are easily one of the best 4wd vehicles ever made. wow. that's a lot of info that i appreciate. since you seem to have some experiance,care to offer some advice on pricing |
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yes its fj 40 and while it has no major rust issues (like holes) it does have some rust and has been sitting under a overhang for a couple of years. it runs and drives but will need a good amount of work to be a daily driver, the 1st picture is of a different model, but it looks similar to the condition of the landcruiser I'm looking at except for the missing parts Sitting is hard on these trucks. Look around the top where the fiberglass and the metal meet; often the fiberglass will be starting to rot if it's not already and if the top leaks you can pretty much bet it's rusted inside where the rear fenders meet the quarter panels. They rust along the tailgate/doors (depending on which model (some had drop down gates and some have two small doors, not like the larger ambulance doors on the later models. Floorboard are bad about rusting out too. Count on the felt seals in the Birfields being dried out and needing to be replaced which means you might as well rebuild them while you're in there. As a daily driver they leave a lot to be desired. For one they aren't that quick and with no insulation they are loud and hot. The F engine is basically a metric copy of the old GM 236 inline six albeit a much better engine than the original. It is cast and therefore very heavy which helps with climbing but not fuel economy- they tend to be very thirsty engines, especially if you start trying to tweak them. The number one and number six valves will burn if it overheats or runs lean so be away of that. Unless the front axle has been swapped for a later model (popular), it will have drum brakes on the front and while they stop the vehicle well under ideal conditions and when properly adjusted, they can be a pain to deal with as they use two cylinders per wheel and are not self adjusting. If it's been sitting there is a better than average chance the parking brake is frozen too and it's a separate drum brake on propeller shaft just behind the transmission. the three speed transmission and 236 will be working hard to run highway speeds. Birfields are tough hubs but can be a pain to rebuild and if you apply much power while the wheels are fully turned and in 4wd the engine has the torque to grenade them. Many of the bolts used throughout will rust and then snap when you try to remove them even after soaking in Kroil. All of that said, they are easily one of the best 4wd vehicles ever made. wow. that's a lot of info that i appreciate. since you seem to have some experiance,care to offer some advice on pricing Above, owned 5 throughout the years. Parts can be quite pricy, be aware that rust hides EVERYWHERE on them and if you can see it, it's likely to be 10 times worse. Disc brakes [last one was a 76"] are SOOOO much nicer then drum in the front and they have a tendency to rust the wheel cylinders up and freeze them. I usually rebuilt a couple every year on the older ones. Steering can be VERY loose, you can rebuild the box on the frame by the front bumper, there can be a lot of slop in it. If you don't like ''armstrong'' steering, don't bother buying it.  You WILL get a good workout driving it, especially if you put wider tires on it.
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If everything works, I'd guess about $12-15k. This. I'd love to have a old FJ40. There was an original ICON FJ40 awhile back that sold for $90k. Restored, (not original) hit the $30k range easily. ETA From the pics you posted of one in similar shape I'd say closer to maybe $5k. Once restored they pull large change. Parts aren't cheap. I've been trying to buy one that has been sitting in a guys yard for around 3 yrs now. Fucker want come off it. |
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Ok guys I just came across something that peaked my interest A..... 1964 toyota landcruiser 60k miles Inline 6 (original) Standard 4wd Short wheel base Removable Hard top (no roll bar) Original wheels(ok) and interior(shot) Runs and drives (brakes will need work) Not dents Some rust(nothing major) original pto driven winch (works) I know a little bit about classic cars but nothing about landcruisers Sooooo guys what's a rough idea on value Ps. Will Try to get pics from owner(no eta though) Pretty much my favorite vehicle that wasn't built by International Harvester. |
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This. I'd love to have a old FJ40. There was an original ICON FJ40 awhile back that sold for $90k. Restored, (not original) hit the $30k range easily. ETA From the pics you posted of one in similar shape I'd say closer to maybe $5k. Once restored they pull large change. Parts aren't cheap. I've been trying to buy one that has been sitting in a guys yard for around 3 yrs now. Fucker want come off it. Quoted:
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If everything works, I'd guess about $12-15k. This. I'd love to have a old FJ40. There was an original ICON FJ40 awhile back that sold for $90k. Restored, (not original) hit the $30k range easily. ETA From the pics you posted of one in similar shape I'd say closer to maybe $5k. Once restored they pull large change. Parts aren't cheap. I've been trying to buy one that has been sitting in a guys yard for around 3 yrs now. Fucker want come off it. thanks guys |
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Quoted: Um, no. That's an FJ45LV. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: this pic is not of the landcruiser i'm looking at Just a representation of condition http://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj45lv-wagon-1.jpg?resize=700%2C700 But with all parts on vehicle What is this "thing" with 4 doors? Certainly, it's not called an FJ40 also? Is that a "troopy"? Not sure whether you're serious. FJ55, AKA "Iron Pig" Um, no. That's an FJ45LV. This is correct. I used to own a 70 FJ-55. I currently own a 64 FJ-45LV aka Station Wagon.  |
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[ <snip> wow. that's a lot of info that i appreciate. since you seem to have some experiance,care to offer some advice on pricing Above, owned 5 throughout the years. Parts can be quite pricy, be aware that rust hides EVERYWHERE on them and if you can see it, it's likely to be 10 times worse. Disc brakes [last one was a 76"] are SOOOO much nicer then drum in the front and they have a tendency to rust the wheel cylinders up and freeze them. I usually rebuilt a couple every year on the older ones. Steering can be VERY loose, you can rebuild the box on the frame by the front bumper, there can be a lot of slop in it. If you don't like ''armstrong'' steering, don't bother buying it. You WILL get a good workout driving it, especially if you put wider tires on it.
Budget 10 times what you think you'll need to get it running well and safe to drive. I haven't really kept on pricing in the last couple of years but I know they've gone through the roof; I sold my last one in 2006 when I didn't have time or space for it. I miss it a lot though. The steering issue is due to a lot of linkage and the lack of power steering. The box he's talking about on the frame by the bumper is actually the center arm assembly and they do wear out and need to be rebuilt. Like the steering box they can be tightened a bit but it's usually best to go ahead and plan on a rebuild if they're worn; plan on replacing all of the tie rods ends at the same time or you're just plugging holes. If it doesn't have a steering stabilizer they're easy to add and need to be replaced also. |