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5/13/2015 2:49:43 PM EDT
Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.

The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).

So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.

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5/13/2015 2:59:22 PM EDT
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that's a pretty fair price
look, it will take you YEARS to put 300 hours on this machine.

tier 4 matters for guys running every week all week
the homeowner, $hit, won't matter much at all unless you get a lemon

it's a Kubota, ti's solid

if you like it, go for it

HST rocks but has higher maintenance costs.
5/13/2015 3:07:05 PM EDT
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I did not get the HST option.  To complicated and saps power.  How much easier do you need a tractor to be to drive?
5/13/2015 3:07:33 PM EDT
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I have a tier 3 LS R4047H (New Holland Boomer 50) with the bucket, forks, and R4 tires. I paid only slightly less than that.

I say jump on it. Just make sure you let the “soot burn off” feature run (need to let the tractor run for a bit and get up to temp. minimize frequent start stops).

Sounds like a great deal to me…
5/13/2015 3:14:04 PM EDT
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It will see quite a bit of FEL work around the property....HST just makes it easier. I didn't actually insist on HST, it happens to be one he has available.

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5/13/2015 4:11:21 PM EDT
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I was told, "if you ever want me to drive the tractor, get the transmission like on the JD riding mower" in other words HST.

It has worked out great, especially while I am hurt and she has to go out and mow.
5/13/2015 4:19:32 PM EDT
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I was told, "if you ever want me to drive the tractor, get the transmission like on the JD riding mower" in other words HST.

It has worked out great, especially while I am hurt and she has to go out and mow.
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I did not get the HST option.  To complicated and saps power.  How much easier do you need a tractor to be to drive?




I was told, "if you ever want me to drive the tractor, get the transmission like on the JD riding mower" in other words HST.

It has worked out great, especially while I am hurt and she has to go out and mow.



Haha, I didn't think about that....but that is a great reason for HST - wife and kid operators while I sit on the porch and drink beer!!!!

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5/13/2015 4:28:04 PM EDT
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I got the HST - love it and quite frankly, I don't give a shit about the 'loss of power'.  I got it partly b/c my ankles are jacked up and partly b/c the wife can drive it w/o an issue now too.  Having driven an old 8N for at least a decade when I was growing up, my JD w/ HST is freaking awesome.
5/13/2015 4:50:39 PM EDT
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I would go over to www.tractorbynet.com and ask around first and check out Paul Short's videos
5/13/2015 5:20:05 PM EDT
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New tractors over 27 hp will have a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) on the exhaust system and will require gong through a regeneration phase after so many hours.  From what I understand, RPM's go up to burn particulates off of filter.  This is the first year of the DPF's on >27 hp Tier 4 diesel motors.  

I was lucky in that I didn't need a big tractor so the B2650 (26 hp) fit the bill for me with no emmisions b.s.
5/13/2015 5:37:02 PM EDT
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Haha, I didn't think about that....but that is a great reason for HST - wife and kid operators while I sit on the porch and drink beer!!!!

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I did not get the HST option.  To complicated and saps power.  How much easier do you need a tractor to be to drive?




I was told, "if you ever want me to drive the tractor, get the transmission like on the JD riding mower" in other words HST.

It has worked out great, especially while I am hurt and she has to go out and mow.



Haha, I didn't think about that....but that is a great reason for HST - wife and kid operators while I sit on the porch and drink beer!!!!

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HST for loader work, gear for lengthy tillage and pulling implements sessions.  /thread on that subject
5/13/2015 8:46:22 PM EDT
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I did not get the HST option.  To complicated and saps power.  How much easier do you need a tractor to be to drive?




I was told, "if you ever want me to drive the tractor, get the transmission like on the JD riding mower" in other words HST.

It has worked out great, especially while I am hurt and she has to go out and mow.



Haha, I didn't think about that....but that is a great reason for HST - wife and kid operators while I sit on the porch and drink beer!!!!

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HST for loader work, gear for lengthy tillage and pulling implements sessions.  /thread on that subject


Yeah, that's what my buddy that farms said also.


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5/13/2015 8:56:13 PM EDT
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wife will want the HST
5/13/2015 9:19:41 PM EDT
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I am tractor shopping myself and have visited dealers and talked to lots of tractor guys.  One thing I have learned, stay away from tier 4 motors with the exception of Mahindras.
There is a reason that guy is asking more for the older tier 3 then the newer tier 4.
5/13/2015 9:21:56 PM EDT
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Kioti is working on their own Tier 4 engine...rumor has it needs no regeneration...
5/13/2015 9:28:21 PM EDT
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Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.





The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).





So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.





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$20,300 is a great price for a L3901 with the LA525 loader. I bought one last fall and paid a lot more than that but I also got the BH77 backhoe for mine.







Mine is HST and I like everything about it except the whine.. It's noisy but I like the fact that I can ease up to something without banging into it. I was loading scrap metal onto a buddies pickup the other day and could ease right up to his truck without worrying about smashing into it. Not having to fool with the clutch and grinding back and forth between 1st and reverse is great too..







So far the tractor has done 4 or 5 regenerations in the 70+ hours I've put on it. I've read keeping the RPMs up will limit the amount of regenerations some but I like to let the machine warm up some before using it. I was also keeping the RPMs to under 2000 during the 50 hour break in. Now that it's hit 50 hours and I've done the 50 hour maintenance I go ahead and rev it to 2500 when working the tractor. The only way I realize the tractor is in regeneration mode is the regen lights on the dash are lit. It takes about 10 minutes to do a regeneration.







I think the L3901 is a good tractor. I really like mine.






















 
5/13/2015 9:28:39 PM EDT
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Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.

The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).

So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.

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Send me a PM, I can answer all of your questions with authority and explain the price.

You can even call me if you wish.

Yes, it is a good deal. I can also explain how the Tier 4 works, and how not to be afraid of it.
5/13/2015 9:48:26 PM EDT
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I've got an L3800 (4wd, hst, loader, quick attach bucket, cruise, telescoping lower arms) just over 2 years old and I'm at 317hr. Home owner with 82ac. I mow grass, bush hog, grade driveways, roads, pull trees, plow snow, etc with mine. I got the HST and wouldn't have a gear tractor for the work I do. Here's a tip - I paid $600 option for the R4's (ordered my tractor spec'd the way I wanted it) and they SUCK. After getting stuck down a muddy hill I traded them and $500 to my dealer for a new set of R1's (AG tires). $1100 lesson learned on my part, but now I know and I'll NEVER have another tractor without R1's. my tractor will go places in 2wd now that it would spin and slide in 4wd with R4's.

Get the telescoping lower arms for sure! Then add a Harbor Frieght Quick Hitch. Makes hooking/unhooking implements far easier and I don't even leave the seat unless I need to connect PTO shaft.
Cruise control, I don't have a lot of flat land, I've used it twice, just to use it. Save the $200.
I added a TnT (top n tilt) kit to my tractor, custom install, and its SOO much better using an implement. I can provide link to Tractorbynet of my install with pics, or just search "number9L top and tilt" and you'll find it.
Get the tires filled with washer fluid or whatever they use, definately worth it.
Have them set the rear wheels out all the way. Tractor is a little too tippy in stock form. Actually, I mow slopes so I've put 5" spacers on mine as well and added 3 sets of the Kubota wheel weights. Made a BIG difference on slopes. I mow 25-30* side slopes - carefully - but it wouldn't have stock.
Whenever you buy air filters, or when you buy the tractor, get the optional second Inner Air Filter as well.

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5/13/2015 9:55:10 PM EDT
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I'm a Kubota dealer.  That is an EXCELLENT price.
5/13/2015 10:18:32 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm grabbing the price pages out of K-Link tomorrow morning. I'm damn curious.
5/13/2015 10:31:55 PM EDT
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I want to thank sweptvolume for taking the time to explain all of the shit to me that I didn't know!

Looks like I should have a new tractor tomorrow evening.

Thanks again everyone (sweptvolume in particular)
5/13/2015 10:35:53 PM EDT
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Looks like I should have a new tractor tomorrow evening.

Thanks again everyone (sweptvolume in particular)
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It's my pleasure. We demand pics!!!
5/13/2015 10:41:18 PM EDT
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If you operate on any hills get the rear tires filled.  Also 300 hours is nothing, very easy to put on a tractor. I run a L4600 hst and love it.  does everything from 6ft bush hog, disc, plow, runs a 7 ft cutditioner, square baler, rake. only problem is the tractor is a bit on the light side.
5/13/2015 10:42:04 PM EDT
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Rip the DEF/DPF T4 shit off and have someone reflash the computer. Fuck 'em, it's an "off road" vehicle.
5/13/2015 10:44:15 PM EDT
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I am the first to admit I am an old fart. I have an L2850 that I bought in 1990. It has 3000 hours and has never missed a beat.

What the fuck is tier and regeneration? Is that tranny or poop talk?
5/13/2015 10:46:59 PM EDT
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You do that. And when you find someone who can "re flash" the Kubota brain, let me know.

This ain't a truck. The T4 system is solid. Best of all, no DEF.
5/13/2015 10:47:23 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm grabbing the price pages out of K-Link tomorrow morning. I'm damn curious.


Probably coming due and dealer dumping tractor.
5/13/2015 10:47:42 PM EDT
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The carbon out of diesel exhaust pipes offends hippies so you have to trap it and burn it off

Makes once simple bulletproof machines complex and expensive
5/13/2015 10:49:33 PM EDT
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No kidding.  I have a Kubota L4330 that was bought around '07, and I am just now hitting 540 hours.  My dad has a Kubota L48 backhoe that was bought around '03 or '04, and I think it still has under 500 hours.

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I'm a little curious about that myself.
5/13/2015 10:53:24 PM EDT
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No kidding.  I have a Kubota L4330 that was bought around '07, and I am just now hitting 540 hours.  My dad has a Kubota L48 backhoe that was bought around '03 or '04, and I think it still has under 500 hours.



I'm a little curious about that myself.
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No kidding.  I have a Kubota L4330 that was bought around '07, and I am just now hitting 540 hours.  My dad has a Kubota L48 backhoe that was bought around '03 or '04, and I think it still has under 500 hours.

What the fuck is tier and regeneration? Is that tranny or poop talk?


I'm a little curious about that myself.


I put 200-300 on mine a year. Plus who knows how many on the other tractor.
5/13/2015 10:53:30 PM EDT
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The EPA is doing their best to kill us all. They have set a standard for Diesel engine pollutant output based on horsepower.  

In order to meet this requirement, tractor manufacturers put what's called a DPF in the exhausts line. DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter, and acts as a scrub or sorts for carbon, metals, and gases that are exhausted as the engine runs.

Periodically, this filter will start to get a little cloggy. The computer sees a pressure differential from one side of the filter to the other that is out of parameters, so the computer tells the engine to "regenerate" which is the act of blowing super hot burning gases through the DPF to burn all the trapped particulates down into small enough carbon bits to be pushed through the filter and out the stack.
5/13/2015 10:54:09 PM EDT
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The carbon out of diesel exhaust pipes offends hippies so you have to trap it and burn it off

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I am the first to admit I am an old fart. I have an L2850 that I bought in 1990. It has 3000 hours and has never missed a beat.

What the fuck is tier and regeneration? Is that tranny or poop talk?


The carbon out of diesel exhaust pipes offends hippies so you have to trap it and burn it off

Makes once simple bulletproof machines complex and expensive


Expensive, yes. Not complicated.
5/13/2015 11:00:30 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm grabbing the price pages out of K-Link tomorrow morning. I'm damn curious.


Probably coming due and dealer dumping tractor.


Maaaaaaaybe, but doesn't explain the L3800 that's still sitting on the lot.

Don't know about your neck of the woods, but we don't see the demands that warrant premium pricing on T3 L's. I've got an L3200DT I can't hardly give away.
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Maaaaaaaybe, but doesn't explain the L3800 that's still sitting on the lot.

Don't know about your neck of the woods, but we don't see the demands that warrant premium pricing on T3 L's. I've got an L3200DT I can't hardly give away.
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Yeah I'm grabbing the price pages out of K-Link tomorrow morning. I'm damn curious.


Probably coming due and dealer dumping tractor.


Maaaaaaaybe, but doesn't explain the L3800 that's still sitting on the lot.

Don't know about your neck of the woods, but we don't see the demands that warrant premium pricing on T3 L's. I've got an L3200DT I can't hardly give away.


At first, it was a big deal around here and I sold almost completely out of tier 3's.  I have one L4600 left.  Lately, no one really has a clue tier3/4 exists.  I have no problem with the tier 4 components themselves. (referring to the DPF and how it works).  What I like about tier 3 is having a mechanically injected engine in lieu of a computer controlled fuel system.
5/13/2015 11:17:55 PM EDT
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The EPA is doing their best to kill us all. They have set a standard for Diesel engine pollutant output based on horsepower.  

In order to meet this requirement, tractor manufacturers put what's called a DPF in the exhausts line. DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter, and acts as a scrub or sorts for carbon, metals, and gases that are exhausted as the engine runs.

Periodically, this filter will start to get a little cloggy. The computer sees a pressure differential from one side of the filter to the other that is out of parameters, so the computer tells the engine to "regenerate" which is the act of blowing super hot burning gases through the DPF to burn all the trapped particulates down into small enough carbon bits to be pushed through the filter and out the stack.
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I am the first to admit I am an old fart. I have an L2850 that I bought in 1990. It has 3000 hours and has never missed a beat.

What the fuck is tier and regeneration? Is that tranny or poop talk?


The EPA is doing their best to kill us all. They have set a standard for Diesel engine pollutant output based on horsepower.  

In order to meet this requirement, tractor manufacturers put what's called a DPF in the exhausts line. DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter, and acts as a scrub or sorts for carbon, metals, and gases that are exhausted as the engine runs.

Periodically, this filter will start to get a little cloggy. The computer sees a pressure differential from one side of the filter to the other that is out of parameters, so the computer tells the engine to "regenerate" which is the act of blowing super hot burning gases through the DPF to burn all the trapped particulates down into small enough carbon bits to be pushed through the filter and out the stack.

Is there an aftermarket delete for these tractors yet?
5/13/2015 11:22:04 PM EDT
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Kubota has a super solid reputation.

Our Kubota dealer does warranty work for us all the time. I forget they warranty things quite a bit and I have been surprised at how many years down the road they will fix things.

We have 21 of their tractors and three of their side x sides. They are the best out their right now.
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I am the first to admit I am an old fart. I have an L2850 that I bought in 1990. It has 3000 hours and has never missed a beat.

What the fuck is tier and regeneration? Is that tranny or poop talk?


The EPA is doing their best to kill us all. They have set a standard for Diesel engine pollutant output based on horsepower.  

In order to meet this requirement, tractor manufacturers put what's called a DPF in the exhausts line. DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter, and acts as a scrub or sorts for carbon, metals, and gases that are exhausted as the engine runs.

Periodically, this filter will start to get a little cloggy. The computer sees a pressure differential from one side of the filter to the other that is out of parameters, so the computer tells the engine to "regenerate" which is the act of blowing super hot burning gases through the DPF to burn all the trapped particulates down into small enough carbon bits to be pushed through the filter and out the stack.

Is there an aftermarket delete for these tractors yet?


To my knowledge, no. And if not, I wouldn't expect one. Not enough market like there is with cars.  

Honestly, not worth deleting. Just keep your booger hooks off the inhibit switch.
5/20/2015 10:18:03 PM EDT
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Well OP, how did it go???

We demand an AAR!!!
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At first, it was a big deal around here and I sold almost completely out of tier 3's.  I have one L4600 left.  Lately, no one really has a clue tier3/4 exists.  I have no problem with the tier 4 components themselves. (referring to the DPF and how it works).  What I like about tier 3 is having a mechanically injected engine in lieu of a computer controlled fuel system.
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Yeah I'm grabbing the price pages out of K-Link tomorrow morning. I'm damn curious.


Probably coming due and dealer dumping tractor.


Maaaaaaaybe, but doesn't explain the L3800 that's still sitting on the lot.

Don't know about your neck of the woods, but we don't see the demands that warrant premium pricing on T3 L's. I've got an L3200DT I can't hardly give away.


At first, it was a big deal around here and I sold almost completely out of tier 3's.  I have one L4600 left.  Lately, no one really has a clue tier3/4 exists.  I have no problem with the tier 4 components themselves. (referring to the DPF and how it works).  What I like about tier 3 is having a mechanically injected engine in lieu of a computer controlled fuel system.


JPL you gotta web site.....and a Tier3 L4600?  HST?

thanks




5/20/2015 10:57:28 PM EDT
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I just traded back for a L4600HST with 28 hours on it.  New I sold it for $27,500.  I'm asking $24,900.  Story behind it is the customer traded down from a small M and regretted going to such a smaller tractor.  Traded him back for another new small M series.  

cfiequipment.net.  I am TERRIBLE at keeping it updated.  Especially this time of year.  PM me for a phone number if you're interested.

ETA:  The new L4600 I mentioned above was sold this week.  No longer available, just the used one I traded back for now.  I also have a MX5100 with 1,100 hrs I'm asking $23,900 for.
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Sorry guys.....


I'm 28 days from closing on my current house with the buyers and the house I'm building isn't close to done. I've been working like mad on it.

So, i ended up with the 3901 with the la525 loader, a set of medium duty forks, and a bunch of odds and ends (filters, some oil, etc) for $20,816 out the door.
I then found a 72" woods finish deck at cabelas that was marked down to $2,399 (which is around the normal price....but since it's cabelas they originally had the price jacked up to $3400. I used $980 of cabelas points and got the finish deck for around $1800 something OTD.

I'll post up some pics tonight but so far I've mowed with and used the forks to move a bunch of shit. I also back bladed my driveway. I have a line on a free rear blade which will come in handy.

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5/26/2015 9:03:54 AM EDT
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The only downside to HST on my kubota, is that snow cakes under the pedals (especially the reverse direction). Other than that, it's great.
5/26/2015 9:03:57 AM EDT
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Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.

The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).

So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.

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I was quoted a price of $24900+ tax for an L3800 4x4 gear, with loader and snowblower last year.  I'd say your quote is pretty good.
A MF 1529 gear with blower was under $18k.

ETA; RIF.  Nice.
5/26/2015 9:32:21 AM EDT
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I just traded back for a L4600HST with 28 hours on it.  New I sold it for $27,500.  I'm asking $24,900.  Story behind it is the customer traded down from a small M and regretted going to such a smaller tractor.  Traded him back for another new small M series.  

cfiequipment.net.  I am TERRIBLE at keeping it updated.  Especially this time of year.  PM me for a phone number if you're interested.

ETA:  The new L4600 I mentioned above was sold this week.  No longer available, just the used one I traded back for now.  I also have a MX5100 with 1,100 hrs I'm asking $23,900 for.
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That's too bad I would have been interested in that L4600 new......but ya got me thinking about the M series again....



First pic the property goes to the left then back up that hill and down the other side about 5 acres the second pic to the top of the hill and down the other side with 15 acres of pasture in between and there is another 5 acres to the right on the down hill side mostly hardwood.

1/2 mile road to maintain... other side of those pines is a small pond that needs some work around it and hills need some skidding and serious brush hogging... also need a boat load of fencing before the buildings go up.

I need a tractor that has the power to pull up those hills while also having a low center of gravity...filled tires are a given as well as suitcase weights or a heavy bucket...
5/26/2015 9:58:57 AM EDT
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Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.

The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).

So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.

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out of curiosity, what exactly are you going to be using the equipment for?

is this one with a backhoe on it? or just the front end loader?

i deal with larger, more specific role equipment so my opinion is probably going to be biased.  20k seems a whole lot for a "do everything average" tractor.  if you aren't going to be running this thing on a daily or even weekly basis, then your putting a lot of money down a hole and are probably better off buying used equipment.
5/26/2015 12:42:41 PM EDT
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That's too bad I would have been interested in that L4600 new......but ya got me thinking about the M series again....

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/9DivDoc/IMG_2651_zpsgptzypj8.jpg

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First pic the property goes to the left then back up that hill and down the other side about 5 acres the second pic to the top of the hill and down the other side with 15 acres of pasture in between and there is another 5 acres to the right on the down hill side mostly hardwood.



1/2 mile road to maintain... other side of those pines is a small pond that needs some work around it and hills need some skidding and serious brush hogging... also need a boat load of fencing before the buildings go up.



I need a tractor that has the power to pull up those hills while also having a low center of gravity...filled tires are a given as well as suitcase weights or a heavy bucket...

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I just traded back for a L4600HST with 28 hours on it.  New I sold it for $27,500.  I'm asking $24,900.  Story behind it is the customer traded down from a small M and regretted going to such a smaller tractor.  Traded him back for another new small M series.  



cfiequipment.net.  I am TERRIBLE at keeping it updated.  Especially this time of year.  PM me for a phone number if you're interested.



ETA:  The new L4600 I mentioned above was sold this week.  No longer available, just the used one I traded back for now.  I also have a MX5100 with 1,100 hrs I'm asking $23,900 for.




That's too bad I would have been interested in that L4600 new......but ya got me thinking about the M series again....

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/9DivDoc/IMG_2651_zpsgptzypj8.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/9DivDoc/IMG_0558_zpsqhgxyo1z.jpg



First pic the property goes to the left then back up that hill and down the other side about 5 acres the second pic to the top of the hill and down the other side with 15 acres of pasture in between and there is another 5 acres to the right on the down hill side mostly hardwood.



1/2 mile road to maintain... other side of those pines is a small pond that needs some work around it and hills need some skidding and serious brush hogging... also need a boat load of fencing before the buildings go up.



I need a tractor that has the power to pull up those hills while also having a low center of gravity...filled tires are a given as well as suitcase weights or a heavy bucket...



Make sure you get a tractor with two piece rear wheels.  That is so that you can reconfigure the tractor rear width to the widest possible stance.  (In fact I would ask that be done before it leaves the dealer).  



I too use my L4330 tractor on hills and had by tractor wheels moved to the widest stance.  The last thing I want is to roll my tractor with me in it!



Good luck!.



 
5/26/2015 1:29:34 PM EDT
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Yes thank you for the reminder need to put that on my list
5/26/2015 2:01:01 PM EDT
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It's ironic that this post popped up again just as I'm considering a 3901 myself!  I'm glad to hear that so many people like them.  There are some great package deals that are being sold at Kubota dealerships these days.  But as most people, I'm still wondering if a 3901 is big enough or if I should bump up to a 4700 series.  I know each step up it's easy to have your eyes on the next one.   I'll have about 45 acres between two properties of rough pasture to knockdown, some driveways to maintain, and of course want to be able to move around things and all the other useful tasks utility that tractors can do.
5/26/2015 4:53:12 PM EDT
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Ok.....don't really have any exciting pics - here it is as it pulled into its new home. Once I get moved in and start on the rifle range I will get some action shots with it. For now, it pretty much is relegated to mowing duty and grading the driveway

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5/26/2015 5:01:02 PM EDT
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thats a nice tractor hope it works out the way you want it to....
5/26/2015 5:02:04 PM EDT
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out of curiosity, what exactly are you going to be using the equipment for?

is this one with a backhoe on it? or just the front end loader?

i deal with larger, more specific role equipment so my opinion is probably going to be biased.  20k seems a whole lot for a "do everything average" tractor.  if you aren't going to be running this thing on a daily or even weekly basis, then your putting a lot of money down a hole and are probably better off buying used equipment.
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Everyone provided a lot of info in my last post about tractors. I've been thrown a curveball today and I want to seek additional input from the experts of GD.

The tier 3 Kubota L3800 I was attempting buy isn't going to happen. The guy realized there is some demand for "new" tier 3 tractors and is jacking up the price to a point where I'm no longer interested (free market and all, so no biggie). However, he still wanted to sell me something (of course) and has been really pushing a new L3901 with the new tier 4 motor. I'll save everyone all of the back and forth negotiation bullshit......in the end, he is offering a new L3901 4x4 HST with the LA525 loader, R4 tires, and a heavy duty set of pallet forks for $20,300 out the door. That's everything ......tax and all the bullshit. That price is significantly lower than anything I've seen online in my State....and significantly lower than where we started negotiating (to the tune of almost $5k).

So, tractor gurus.....is that a good price, and would you have any hesitations about the new tier 4 motor???? I generally don't like buying technology in the first year.....but if the price is right and the tier 4 shit isn't that big of deal, I'll jump.

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out of curiosity, what exactly are you going to be using the equipment for?

is this one with a backhoe on it? or just the front end loader?

i deal with larger, more specific role equipment so my opinion is probably going to be biased.  20k seems a whole lot for a "do everything average" tractor.  if you aren't going to be running this thing on a daily or even weekly basis, then your putting a lot of money down a hole and are probably better off buying used equipment.



It has the FEL on the front. It will get used mowing, grading, plowing, for firewood duty, light trenching work with a sub soiler or middle buster, and for tilling the garden and turning compost.

I wanted a used one. However, the market around me is such that I would have either ended up with a 50 year old tractor without FEL or paying just a few thousand less for a used tractor with 500-1000 hours on it. For that minimal price difference is rather have new with a warranty and treat it how I treat things rather than hoping a previous owner wasn't a dipshit. It had 1.2 hours on it when I bought it a week ago.....it has 13 on it now. It will definitely get used
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