[ARCHIVED THREAD] - mountain lion attack (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/8/2015 4:04:02 AM EDT
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If a mountain lion jumps you from behind, how long before it snaps your neck or you bleed out?
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If a 5lb house cat can destroy a full grown man- I wonder what a 200lb mountain lion can do ?  I think I was more worried about the lions while I lived in MT than I was the bears while out hiking. Have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere and had that feeling something was watching you ? Creepy feeling in the woods.
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Not long enough to realize what happened probably. When I was 14 i was hunting a dry wash and was among some willow islands when I got the feeling. I swung around and fired at the cat which was about 15 feet away behind a thin layer of willow. He disappeared in an instant with no visible damage from the 12ga reload of reclaimed shot I had pelted him with. I'm not saying he was going to pounce on me but I would have stood no chance had he done so. Just north of Wickenburg ftw. |
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The cat will grab you buy the neck and snap your spine or it will just crush your skull. After your dead, it will proceed to eat you asshole first. If they find you the day of or before the cat feeds a second time, you will probably be feebaly buried under some loose grass and sticks.
This is just my observation from seeing 30-40 cougar killed deer. Big cats are killing machines. The poster that brought up a 5 lb house cat wrecking your day is right, big ol puma is gonna be like a tabby with retard strength. The good news is they really don't want to eat you. They have to be pretty sick or old and be having a hard time eating deer to want to try and eat you. Still if you see one hanging about your house or in a fairly populated area, kill it. |
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Be aware of your surroundings be properly armed don't be wearing stupid ass headphones and no one's allowed to walk without at least one of the dogs with them.
That's what I tell the kids when they visit. For us rattle snakes are our situational awareness training tool and we have plenty. |
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Take a dog and keep it leashed. It doesn't help if it wants to run off ahead of you and it'll be no warning system then.
Carry a gun. Have a friend. Most mountain lions will evade you. If you see it once, you may be lucky that it was careless. If you see it twice, it may be stalking you. |
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If a 5lb house cat can destroy a full grown man- I wonder what a 200lb mountain lion can do ? I think I was more worried about the lions while I lived in MT than I was the bears while out hiking. Have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere and had that feeling something was watching you ? Creepy feeling in the woods.As a guy who rides on mountain bike trails 3-4 times a week in known lion habitat up here in MT... I agree. They are stealthy, fast and sneaky. I don't like flying down the trails in the thicket in griz country either, but I spend much more time in lion habitat than where the griz are. |
My high school students have been discussing this all week, as we have a new member of the class.
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-you-run-or-freeze-when-you-see-a-mountain-lion/
I want to see the numbers for people who yell and fight back, I assume they would fare a lot better. 
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One individual in Washington was attacked by a puma from behind while walking down a dirt road. He got out a folding knife and cut it's throat while it had his head in it's mouth.
He survived because someone came along and found him. He didn't bleed out because he had a clotting disease unknown to himself. He lost an ear and eye if I remember and had to have many surgeries. He said he could feel the heart beat of the lion, slow and steady while it had his head in it's mouth. 
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We decided if a lion gets this claw in your head, you aren't getting away. Like a fish on a hook. 
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They usually try to puncture the spine on the first bite, so.... 86 maybe 87 milliseconds.  Actually, their preferred kill is to puncture the cranium. Unfortunately the human skull is sloped just enough and thick enough to prevent that. From there they switch to a neck hold and try to evicerate you with their hind claws. Either way you are going to have a bad day. |
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Quoted: The cat will grab you buy the neck and snap your spine or it will just crush your skull. After your dead, it will proceed to eat you asshole first. If they find you the day of or before the cat feeds a second time, you will probably be feebaly buried under some loose grass and sticks. This is just my observation from seeing 30-40 cougar killed deer. Big cats are killing machines. The poster that brought up a 5 lb house cat wrecking your day is right, big ol puma is gonna be like a tabby with retard strength. The good news is they really don't want to eat you. They have to be pretty sick or old and be having a hard time eating deer to want to try and eat you. Still if you see one hanging about your house or in a fairly populated area, kill it. |
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Driving back from Nashville a few years ago we (3 of us) had just come into Florida through Alabama and we're cruising down the interstate when the guys driving says "Holy Shit! Look at that! I got my head around just in time to see something solid black with a long tail darting into the woods from the side of the highway. This was out in the middle of nowhere. He thought it was a panther and so did I but I really didn't get a clear look at it. It was HUGE and moving quick out of sight but I vividly remember the long black tail behind it.
Fairly certain it was a black panther but always thought they stayed further south in the state and I honestly didn't realize we had black ones here. |
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Driving back from Nashville a few years ago we (3 of us) had just come into Florida through Alabama and we're cruising down the interstate when the guys driving says "Holy Shit! Look at that! I got my head around just in time to see something solid black with a long tail darting into the woods from the side of the highway. This was out in the middle of nowhere. He thought it was a panther and so did I but I really didn't get a clear look at it. It was HUGE and moving quick out of sight but I vividly remember the long black tail behind it. Fairly certain it was a black panther but always thought they stayed further south in the state and I honestly didn't realize we had black ones here. That's how I have seen cougars most often. You get a glimpse of something moving away, and it has a giant tail that bows down then up at the tip. When you see them up close the tail is pretty impressive. I stared one down about 10' away from me last year. It didn't blink, move or twitch its tail. After about 30-40 seconds it decides it wasn't going to eat me then walked off. |
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Driving back from Nashville a few years ago we (3 of us) had just come into Florida through Alabama and we're cruising down the interstate when the guys driving says "Holy Shit! Look at that! I got my head around just in time to see something solid black with a long tail darting into the woods from the side of the highway. This was out in the middle of nowhere. He thought it was a panther and so did I but I really didn't get a clear look at it. It was HUGE and moving quick out of sight but I vividly remember the long black tail behind it. Fairly certain it was a black panther but always thought they stayed further south in the state and I honestly didn't realize we had black ones here. The Florida Panthers tail does have a black tip. Never heard of black panthers here, at least not the animal.
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One individual in Washington was attacked by a puma from behind while walking down a dirt road. He got out a folding knife and cut it's throat while it had his head in it's mouth. He survived because someone came along and found him. He didn't bleed out because he had a clotting disease unknown to himself. He lost an ear and eye if I remember and had to have many surgeries. He said he could feel the heart beat of the lion, slow and steady while it had his head in it's mouth. We might be thinking of different ones but I'm pretty sure it was in Idaho just outside of Post Falls. The guy killed the cat with a Buck 110. 
ETA: I'm pretty sure with the speed of a mountain lion you won't have time to grab a gun and I think the best option is something like a ka-bar in an inverted sheath on a shoulder strap of a backpack. |
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I was solo hiking in north west yellowstone this past September, and was 12 or so mile back on an old and rarely used trail. Started to get the feeling that something wasn't right and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I kept going to see if it was just something in my head, but the feeling didn't go away, and even got worse. I ended up turning around to get out of the area, following the trail I had been on. After a few minutes of walking back the way I had come from, I came across fresh lion tracks that hadn't been there the first time I passed. Never saw the cat or heard it, but I am positive it was there.
I've had some close encounters with brown bears on my solo hiking trips out in Montana, and they never really bothered me. I respected them and never got that primal fear feeling. But cats....no thanks. ETA - The best part is when they use their back claws to rip your organs out as they're going for your neck and head. |
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I had one stalk me once when I was about 15. On my way back from hunting, sun is falling fast, very little light left. I make my way down the treeline towards home and I catch a dry leaf cracking in the woods about 20 yards away. It's too dark to see into the trees, but I peer anyway. Nothing, nada. I start moving again and 10 seconds later, I hear the tell tale step on dry leaves sound. Freeze. Still can't see shit. I start getting a little worried, cause this thing is walking when I walk and stopping when I stop. I "unsling" my 45-70 guide gun and start walking again. Sure enough I hear another footprint. I stop for the third time and point my rifle towards the (now very black) treeline only yards away while bringing my maglite under the itty bitty forearm to support the rifle. When I hit the button, I nearly shit myself. When I say I nearly shit myself, I don't mean I was really scared or terrified, I mean I ALMOST FUCKING SHIT MYSELF. 15 YARDS away........biggest goddamn raccoon I ever saw.
Was thinking mountain lion the whole time. Shot it anyway.
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Wear a fake face mask on the back of your head.
Big kitties normally attack from behind. A 200lb cat has the force of over 1,500lbs when it pounces on you. You will not recover from that. 
Years ago I was camping about 15 miles from Ridgecrest, CA. Popped my tent near a spring. It was dry out there, eastern Sierras in August. Well, after the first night of peaceful sleep. I walk to the little spent and see these there. They were not thee the night before. My tent didn't feel so protective anymore. I felt like a bacon strip inside a potato chip bag. 
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Bobcat attacks turkey hunter
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Was on my property tree line when one came right at dark about ten years ago.
I had two lab-chow-one of them part Doberman also who ran back onto the back porch and behind a cedar chest I use for tool storage. Felt a little betrayed but did have two 3 inch 00 buck and one magnum slug all in the green hull along with the standard #4s I had stoked in my Nova. Knew it was a cougar by the yell that it made which was short and not very loud as I have heard them (probably not a male and possibly young) in the past in several places in Texas over the years, and black and maroon panthers on occasion also. The neighbors back in those days had goats and placed the goat sheds which were made out of corrugated tin right close to their fence line and the goats sensed it even before it yelled, because about half of them jumped into the top of their goat sheds which should have been an indication that a serious predator was in the area, but I just thought, "how strange," you know? That's why I guess when I go out to the far reaches of my little world, I take more than just one can of whoop it good with me. 
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Quoted: This is all BS. I saw a man on a buffalo punch a mountain kitty in the face and tell it to scram. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If a cat of any size attacks you, punch in right in the face with everything you got. That cat will go somewhere else. *theory not tested on anything larger than a mountain lion. Beware jaguars and tigers. |
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A five lb house cat is a small domestic cat. What about the ones that are 15+ lbs? Those I call "micro-Pumas". Quoted:
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If a 5lb house cat can destroy a full grown man- A five lb house cat is a small domestic cat. What about the ones that are 15+ lbs? Those I call "micro-Pumas". Micro-fat asses. iv'e got a couple.. Spike who is 13 still charges the food bowl and prevails over another or all of them bastards, it doesn't matter to fat boy cause he gonna eat baby!!..
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We decided if a lion gets this claw in your head, you aren't getting away. Like a fish on a hook.
http://<a href=https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7790/17238942040_ac9a862c9e_b.jpg</a>20150508_073219 by guns762, on Flickr" /> Our lion is probably an adolescent. He's got a very long body, big head, huge feet, but fairly thin. I can palm a basketball. http://<a href=https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8687/17237686160_cd28e60f10_b.jpg</a>20150508_073208 by guns762, on Flickr" /> Yo teach, you got a thread going on this project?
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Quoted: Micro-fat asses. iv'e got a couple.. Spike who is 13 still charges the food bowl and prevails over another or all of them bastards, it doesn't matter to fat boy cause he gonna eat baby!!.. I have one like that. The food bowl is the center of his orbit until it runs dry. Then I become the center of his orbit until I fill it. There are a lot of similarities to human behavior.... |