Posted: 5/6/2015 8:36:53 PM EDT
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Cody Wilson, CEO of Defense Distributed, best known for his 3D printing of AR lowers, the liberator gun, and new CNC 80% lower mill, Filed suit today against the State Department for making him take his Liberator plans off the web. Should be interesting to see this play out. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/cody-wilson-who-posted-gun-instructions-online-sues-state-department.html?_r=0 Link to the text of the suit. http://www.scribd.com/doc/264435890/Defense-Distributed-et-al-v-U-S-Dept-of-State |
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Filed suit today against the State Department for making him take his Liberator plans off the web. Define "make". How did the State Department plan to enforce their demand?  By throwing him in jail for violating ITAR, if I remember correctly.
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SAF is a partner and gives more details...
SAF Sues Feds Over Censorship Of 3-D Firearms Printing Information
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today joined Defense Distributed of Austin, Texas, in filing a federal lawsuit against Secretary of State John Kerry, the Department of State and other federal officials, seeking to stop the Government’s unconstitutional censorship of information related to the three-dimensional printing of arms. The Government’s restraint against the publication of this critical information, under the guise of controlling arms exports, violates the First Amendment right to free speech, the Second Amendment right to bear arms, and the Fifth Amendment right to due process, the lawsuit alleges. SAF and Defense Distributed seek to publish 3-D printing information at no cost to the public. Constitutional attorney Alan Gura of Gura & Possessky leads the litigation team, which also includes William “Tommy” Jacks, Bill Mateja, and David Morris of Fish & Richardson; export control counsel Matthew Goldstein, and constitutional law Professor Josh Blackman. “Americans have always been free to exchange information about firearms and manufacture their own arms,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “We also have an expectation that any speech regulations be spelled out clearly, and that individuals be provided basic procedural protections if their government claims a power to silence them.” The lawsuit asserts the defendants are unlawfully applying International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) to prevent the plaintiffs from exercising in free speech on the Internet and other forums. ITAR “requires advance government authorization to export technical data,” the complaint asserts. There are criminal and civil penalties for violations, ranging up to 20 years in prison and fines of up to $1 million per violation. Defense Distributed generated technical information on various gun-related items, which it published on the Internet. But it removed all the files from its servers upon being warned that it “may have released ITAR-controlled technical data without the required prior authorization from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), a violation of the ITAR.” In June 2013, Defense Distributed submitted various published files to DDTC for review of a machine called the “Ghost Gunner.” In April, DDTC said the machine does not fall under ITAR, but that software and files are subject to State Department jurisdiction. “Defense Distributed appears to be caught in what seems to be a bureaucratic game of merry-go-round,” Gottlieb said. “The right to keep and bear arms includes the ability to acquire or create arms. The government is engaging in behavior that denies the company due process under the Fifth Amendment. We’re compelled to file this action because the bureaucracy is evidently playing games and it’s time for these agencies to behave.” The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. |
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Define "make". How did the State Department plan to enforce their demand? Quoted:
Filed suit today against the State Department for making him take his Liberator plans off the web. Define "make". How did the State Department plan to enforce their demand? The State Department took over his website a while back and had ITAR shit posted all over it. Good thing I knew people who downloaded that shit on Day 1 and have been seeding ever since. |
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Someone should design another product and distribute it. Keep doing the same thing, either anonymously or declared. Overwhelm the censors. It would be interesting to write a script that made trivial changes to the design and uploaded it to 10's of thousands of sites. |
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Once technology to building, manufacture, or print firearms for personal use becomes a commodity, their licensing system and regulations to support become ineffective, and out-dated. The federal government would either need to shrink the ATF, or find a way to adapt their current system to the personal manufacture model.
BTW, personal manufacture is not just for firearms. It will be the disruptive technology for a wide variety of markets and industries. |
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The State Department took over his website a while back and had ITAR shit posted all over it. Good thing I knew people who downloaded that shit on Day 1 and have been seeding ever since. Quoted:
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Filed suit today against the State Department for making him take his Liberator plans off the web. Define "make". How did the State Department plan to enforce their demand? The State Department took over his website a while back and had ITAR shit posted all over it. Good thing I knew people who downloaded that shit on Day 1 and have been seeding ever since. I like your friends. 
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Once technology to building, manufacture, or print firearms for personal use becomes a commodity, their licensing system and regulations to support become ineffective, and out-dated. The federal government would either need to shrink the ATF, or find a way to adapt their current system to the personal manufacture model. BTW, personal manufacture is not just for firearms. It will be the disruptive technology for a wide variety of markets and industries. Making everyone with that kitchen-table consumer technology subjected to the kind of invasive, hostile oversight that gun owners are now "voluntarily" put through would lead to people marching on Washington DC with torches and pitchforks and tearing bureaucrat's testicles off. Gun control will die when entry into the marketplace of complex goods is decoupled from dedicated commercial manufacturing infrastructure. ATF exists only because they can control the flow of firearms into commerce by standing in front of imports, and threatening commercial producers. Once everyone can produce a weapon by downloading a file and clicking "print", modern regulation as we know it is going to fall apart because there is no central entry points to corner and threaten into compliance. |
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Making everyone with that kitchen-table consumer technology subjected to the kind of invasive, hostile oversight that gun owners are now "voluntarily" put through would lead to people marching on Washington DC with torches and pitchforks and tearing bureaucrat's testicles off. Gun control will die when entry into the marketplace of complex goods is decoupled from dedicated commercial manufacturing infrastructure. ATF exists only because they can control the flow of firearms into commerce by standing in front of imports, and threatening commercial producers. Once everyone can produce a weapon by downloading a file and clicking "print", modern regulation as we know it is going to fall apart because there is no central entry points to corner and threaten into compliance. Quoted:
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Once technology to building, manufacture, or print firearms for personal use becomes a commodity, their licensing system and regulations to support become ineffective, and out-dated. The federal government would either need to shrink the ATF, or find a way to adapt their current system to the personal manufacture model. BTW, personal manufacture is not just for firearms. It will be the disruptive technology for a wide variety of markets and industries. Making everyone with that kitchen-table consumer technology subjected to the kind of invasive, hostile oversight that gun owners are now "voluntarily" put through would lead to people marching on Washington DC with torches and pitchforks and tearing bureaucrat's testicles off. Gun control will die when entry into the marketplace of complex goods is decoupled from dedicated commercial manufacturing infrastructure. ATF exists only because they can control the flow of firearms into commerce by standing in front of imports, and threatening commercial producers. Once everyone can produce a weapon by downloading a file and clicking "print", modern regulation as we know it is going to fall apart because there is no central entry points to corner and threaten into compliance. Until you can print ammo, they can still control things. |
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Once technology to building, manufacture, or print firearms for personal use becomes a commodity, their licensing system and regulations to support become ineffective, and out-dated. The federal government would either need to shrink the ATF, or find a way to adapt their current system to the personal manufacture model. BTW, personal manufacture is not just for firearms. It will be the disruptive technology for a wide variety of markets and industries. Making everyone with that kitchen-table consumer technology subjected to the kind of invasive, hostile oversight that gun owners are now "voluntarily" put through would lead to people marching on Washington DC with torches and pitchforks and tearing bureaucrat's testicles off. Gun control will die when entry into the marketplace of complex goods is decoupled from dedicated commercial manufacturing infrastructure. ATF exists only because they can control the flow of firearms into commerce by standing in front of imports, and threatening commercial producers. Once everyone can produce a weapon by downloading a file and clicking "print", modern regulation as we know it is going to fall apart because there is no central entry points to corner and threaten into compliance. Until you can print ammo, they can still control things. Ammo has never been impossible to come by in this nation and never will be. The measures it would require to make it that scarce would prompt its use en masse. |
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Quoted: This is my dream: gun control rendered useless by technology & information. |