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3/30/2015 6:33:13 PM EDT
Gaiters or Chaps ?

Will be working on my bit of land this summer clearing underbrush, cutting down trees, etc.
Will gaiters suffice or shall I get a little extra protection up to the crotch with chaps

I have no experience in dealing with venomous snakes ( thanks, behindenemylines for the correction ), let alone knowing what's in the WV foothills,
I do have a few rock piles on the property, perfect habitat for snakes, any advice would be appreciated.


Dibs get lost
3/30/2015 6:35:48 PM EDT
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3/30/2015 6:36:19 PM EDT
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You mean venomous.
3/30/2015 6:39:05 PM EDT
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Yeah
3/30/2015 6:44:46 PM EDT
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Gaiters would be more comfortable in the heat so you'll wear them. I worry more about my hands if I'm screwing with rock piles.

Don't forget your protective eye wear.
3/30/2015 6:49:35 PM EDT
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Oh no, I am not screwing with the rock piles, they're pretty much out of the way of future plans.
3/30/2015 6:51:34 PM EDT
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another option - kinda sucks when it's hot outside, but it's better than the alternative:

http://www.lacrossefootwear.com/performance/hunt/leather/snake/venom-scent-realtreer-apg-hdr-snake-boots.html
3/30/2015 6:54:26 PM EDT
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Go with chaps. Gaiters are a pain in the ass because they always slip down unless you tie-'em so tight you lose circulation.

If you're not concerned about snakes hanging out in brush, a good pair of 16" or higher boots works well too (my choice for Florida).
3/30/2015 7:02:01 PM EDT
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Snake boots are my choice.
3/30/2015 7:03:46 PM EDT
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Being an avid outdoorsman, I'm glad I don't have any venomous critters in my AO.
3/30/2015 7:04:15 PM EDT
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TurtleSkin Chaps
3/30/2015 7:08:37 PM EDT
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Waste of money.
3/30/2015 7:15:03 PM EDT
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“Sometimes I make some money doin' comedy. I made $3000 opening for the Neville Brothers, and they paid me in cash, so I had $3000 in my front pocket. That was a bad situation, because then I start to buy ridiculous shit. Like, I bought a snake-bite emergency repair kit. Then I said to my friends, 'Don't even worry about snakes anymore.' Then my friend stepped on a worm, I said, 'Lay down.' Snake bite emergency repair kit... is a body bag.”
-Mitch Hedberg
3/30/2015 7:21:47 PM EDT
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It's that your experience or you just adding another notch to your post count. I'd rather be safe than sorry because
medical attention will not be readily available. I know snakes are not aggressive towards humans, but what if I step on one
as it is slithering away from me, it will bite.
3/30/2015 7:21:57 PM EDT
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8" stove pipes ankles to knees.
3/30/2015 7:35:45 PM EDT
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http://snakeguardz.com/

Got a pair of these and they are not hard to put on and take off. Need to be fitted and refitted a few times to stop rotation, but once they are set up right they stay in place after many hours of walking around and working.
Wear a pair of heavy hiking boots under them, I like the ones with the thick rubber toe and heal protection.

As long as the snake bite these your good to go. If you reach down into rocks or next to a log then all bets are off.

These guys have some videos on Youtube that will blow you mind.

3/30/2015 7:46:14 PM EDT
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I live and work(on my land) in the woods, you are much more likely to need chainsaw chaps, than snake leggings.

Situational awareness is tantamount to all other considerations.

Don't stick your hands or feet where you can't see. Don't step over downed wood. If you have to turn something over, turn it toward you not away.

Then again I live in Texas not WV, so maybe not?
3/30/2015 7:48:05 PM EDT
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3/30/2015 7:52:24 PM EDT
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Gaiters would be more comfortable in the heat so you'll wear them. I worry more about my hands if I'm screwing with rock piles.

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Did he die
3/30/2015 7:52:55 PM EDT
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I have a set of snake boots, they work great and are light and comfortable.
Got them at cabelas
Would wear them when I would go hunting for turkeys in riverbottoms and there were tons of water moccasins and other snakes.
Had only one strike and it was a glancing blow but still made me change my shorts.

I had a pair of chaps but let a friend borrow them and he ended up buying them off me.

I hate snakes
3/30/2015 8:09:06 PM EDT
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Take this guy on a leash....




street cred...

3/30/2015 8:15:23 PM EDT
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I think they are absolutely stupid. Snake bites are extremely rare. 60% don't even inject venom. Most venomous snake bites are on the hands and arms. The people who spend the most time in the woods rarely if ever wear them, including me who has spent endless hours looking for them.

Furthermore assuming you are a healthy adult you have plenty of time to get medical attention should it happen. West Virginia will have copperheads and timber rattlesnakes. No worries.
3/30/2015 8:39:00 PM EDT
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I think they are absolutely stupid. Snake bites are extremely rare. 60% don't even inject venom. Most venomous snake bites are on the hands and arms. The people who spend the most time in the woods rarely if ever wear them, including me who has spent endless hours looking for them.

Furthermore assuming you are a healthy adult you have plenty of time to get medical attention should it happen. West Virginia will have copperheads and timber rattlesnakes. No worries.
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Speaking as one who works in the woods, I won't say they're stupid, but I rarely wear mine (and I have chaps and leggings).  In my experience, give any snake (with perhaps the exception of the cottonmouth) a 5% chance and he's going to try to get away.  Make noise when you move in the woods.  Don't reach where you can't see, and don't step where you can't see.

I've worked in the woods for almost 25 years and have only been struck at twice, and never bit.  But, if they make you feel better, get some rattlers brand chaps.
3/30/2015 8:59:42 PM EDT
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High riding snake boots is the key to all day comfort and top notch protection. Any pants over pants is gonna hurt after a few hours, this means chaps, waders, gaiters, or whatever they want to call them. Get the boots.
3/30/2015 9:03:38 PM EDT
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I live and work(on my land) in the woods, you are much more likely to need chainsaw chaps, than snake leggings.

Situational awareness is tantamount to all other considerations.

Don't stick your hands or feet where you can't see. Don't step over downed wood. If you have to turn something over, turn it toward you not away.

Then again I live in Texas not WV, so maybe not?
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Good advice.


3/30/2015 9:06:08 PM EDT
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Go with chaps. Gaiters are a pain in the ass because they always slip down unless you tie-'em so tight you lose circulation.

If you're not concerned about snakes hanging out in brush, a good pair of 16" or higher boots works well too (my choice for Florida).
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We also prefer chaps for snake protection out at the ranch. Same reasons.
3/30/2015 9:08:46 PM EDT
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Speaking as one who works in the woods, I won't say they're stupid, but I rarely wear mine (and I have chaps and leggings).  In my experience, give any snake (with perhaps the exception of the cottonmouth) a 5% chance and he's going to try to get away.  Make noise when you move in the woods.  Don't reach where you can't see, and don't step where you can't see.

I've worked in the woods for almost 25 years and have only been struck at twice, and never bit.  But, if they make you feel better, get some rattlers brand chaps.
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I think they are absolutely stupid. Snake bites are extremely rare. 60% don't even inject venom. Most venomous snake bites are on the hands and arms. The people who spend the most time in the woods rarely if ever wear them, including me who has spent endless hours looking for them.

Furthermore assuming you are a healthy adult you have plenty of time to get medical attention should it happen. West Virginia will have copperheads and timber rattlesnakes. No worries.


Speaking as one who works in the woods, I won't say they're stupid, but I rarely wear mine (and I have chaps and leggings).  In my experience, give any snake (with perhaps the exception of the cottonmouth) a 5% chance and he's going to try to get away.  Make noise when you move in the woods.  Don't reach where you can't see, and don't step where you can't see.

I've worked in the woods for almost 25 years and have only been struck at twice, and never bit.  But, if they make you feel better, get some rattlers brand chaps.



I hope I have your luck
3/30/2015 9:23:34 PM EDT
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I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about this, but if it makes you feel better then knock yourself out.






3/30/2015 9:30:22 PM EDT
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Huh, We always wanted chaps for protection against briars and thorns and shit. Never felt I needed to buy a pair for snake protection though.
Shit we used to do all that in shorts as kids.
3/30/2015 10:08:10 PM EDT
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Yeah, baby!  Out of all of these, you only need to worry about one.












3/30/2015 10:16:00 PM EDT
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I asked a while back for a trip.. was recommended gaiters.. got 'em at Cabelas (local)

I've traveled all over the place and never needed 'em, but our guide recommended them.
first 3/4 of the hike in, I was asking ... wtf?  no need for 'em here.. then the last 1/4 was knee high grass.
Didn't end up needing them, but was glad I wore them.. All it takes is one to ruin your day.  gaiters are cheap insurance.
A LOT cheaper than the pain, suffering and potential damage to your extremities, not to mention cheaper that a chopper ride and medical bills.
they did lock in the heat on the lower part of my legs, and my pants got wet from perspiration
3/30/2015 10:27:29 PM EDT
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Friend of a friend got hit by a rattler a few years back;  antivenin and other med bills ran about $100k.
3/30/2015 10:33:32 PM EDT
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It's that your experience or you just adding another notch to your post count. I'd rather be safe than sorry because

medical attention will not be readily available. I know snakes are not aggressive towards humans, but what if I step on one

as it is slithering away from me, it will bite.

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It's that your experience or you just adding another notch to your post count. I'd rather be safe than sorry because

medical attention will not be readily available. I know snakes are not aggressive towards humans, but what if I step on one

as it is slithering away from me, it will bite.

Buy them then.

 
3/30/2015 10:39:23 PM EDT
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someone had to do it.

3/30/2015 10:43:57 PM EDT
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Just set the whole plot on fire before you get started.
3/30/2015 10:45:50 PM EDT
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Anyone know what to do if bit by a snake? Not too worried about copperheads, it's the cottonmouths that worry me a bit. Got a few of em out this way.



Obviously seek medical attention but what's the best thing to do until then? I live about 20-25 minutes from town + however long it takes me to get back to my truck from being off a little ways.
3/30/2015 10:50:33 PM EDT
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Anyone know what to do if bit by a snake? Not too worried about copperheads, it's the cottonmouths that worry me a bit. Got a few of em out this way.



Obviously seek medical attention but what's the best thing to do until then? I live about 20-25 minutes from town + however long it takes me to get back to my truck from being off a little ways.

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There is really nothing to do besides get to hospital as fast as you can.

 
3/30/2015 10:58:32 PM EDT
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Anyone know what to do if bit by a snake? Not too worried about copperheads, it's the cottonmouths that worry me a bit. Got a few of em out this way.

Obviously seek medical attention but what's the best thing to do until then? I live about 20-25 minutes from town + however long it takes me to get back to my truck from being off a little ways.
There is really nothing to do besides get to hospital as fast as you can.  

This.

So my friend tells a story of a family friend that raised snakes for venom. This was back in the days of pagers and not cell phones. So the guy gets bitten and grabs what anti-venom he has and takes himself to the hospital. The Dr. is trying to figure out what to do and the guy tells him, "Look, I was bitten by this type of snake and I need x more doses." The Dr. says, "Hold on, I have to call the expert." A few minutes later the guy's pager goes off. The Dr. just looked at him like and finally decided to listen.
3/30/2015 11:09:59 PM EDT
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I would definitely spend my money on something you are guaranteed  to get use out of,  like ceramic plates.
3/30/2015 11:10:09 PM EDT
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I remember the first time I ever saw a Copperhead.

A buddy came to my house with it in a snake bag after it had just bit him through it on the thumb.

I remember askig if he was going to the hospital and he just laughed and told me he hadn't gone the first time he got bit and wouldn't be going this time either.

He was fine but said it felt like someone was hammering his thumb for a few days.
3/30/2015 11:52:18 PM EDT
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I've tried Chaps and finally went to a pair of Rocky Snake Boots.
3/30/2015 11:53:27 PM EDT
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The only thing it's good for
3/31/2015 12:07:14 AM EDT
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SO on a website that most of the members recommend you carry AT LEAST a $400 handgun in a suburban area, paying for a $50 pair of gaiters or chaps is for faggots.  Swell.

OP try them both on and figure out which one you can stand to wear for hours on end.
3/31/2015 8:17:54 AM EDT
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I work in the woods and don't wear any special footwear.
When I am out looking for snakes I just wear wellington boots.

I went on a mission trip to Africa a few years ago. The area had some pretty nasty venomous snakes including Gaboon vipers and mambas. We had a guy that had a one way ticket as he was staying. He had a very minimal amount of gear. One piece of kit was some of those BIG ol' honkin' Chippewa snake boots. He wore them for about 2 days and ditched them.

Situational awareness trumps gear in this case and in my opinion.
3/31/2015 8:21:31 AM EDT
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12gauge
3/31/2015 8:23:19 AM EDT
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Waste of money.



It's that your experience or you just adding another notch to your post count. I'd rather be safe than sorry because
medical attention will not be readily available. I know snakes are not aggressive towards humans, but what if I step on one
as it is slithering away from me, it will bite.
Buy them then.  



I like your style, a man with few words.

Anyways, I am still looking at both sides of the coin here, thanks for the input from everyone
3/31/2015 8:25:44 AM EDT
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SO on a website that most of the members recommend you carry AT LEAST a $400 handgun in a suburban area, paying for a $50 pair of gaiters or chaps is for faggots.  Swell.

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I came here to post that.
3/31/2015 8:29:10 AM EDT
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Top Pic is the one that would concern me, CopperHead ?
3/31/2015 8:29:30 AM EDT
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He looks kinda ticked off.

 
4/22/2015 2:07:48 PM EDT
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Be careful....some of them blend in quite well





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