[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Little PSA.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/29/2014 2:45:29 PM EDT
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This isn't a poor me kind of story just a heads up I guess. On Oct 7th while taking my PT test I lost consciousness. I collapsed 70m from the finish line of the 2 mile run, which has never happened before in my life. I am 31yrs old and in pretty darn good shape, had plenty of time to spare and passed every event with ease. About 150m from the finish it felt like I assume what it would feel to be shot in my lower back/kidneys area and my body basically stopped responding. I somehow made it another 70 or so meters before I totally collapsed and body stopped working. They say I was out for 10 mins. I remember 2 things while I was apparantly under, 1 my friend who is a medic calling my name over me and the fucking chaplain praying over me like I was dead and it scared the hell out of me. After that I woke up in the ambulance.
I was taken to the ER and had a blood panel done. That was when people started freaking out. The numbers that came back at that moment and from what the doctors had told me was that I should be in cardiac arrest or dead. They were schocked that I was awake and cognitive and then they rushed me to the ICU where I remained for 4 days. The cause of all this was supplements and preworkout I had been taking for the last 3 years and slowly fucking up my kidneys. I didnt take it daily maybe 3-4 times a week but it was enough put my kidneys into overdrive for that day. They are still determining if they damage was permanent or not, as my kidneys are healing very slowly. *soapbox* I guess what I am trying to say is just be careful with that shit, I never thought it could happen to me and I almost died because of it, the pain was incredible. Just because its at GNC doesnt mean it's good for you *soapbox* Just thought I'd pass this along. Wiriting it out kinda helps me and it was scary as shit. |
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What supplements? Depending on the Preworkout it probably had a good bit of caffeine in it.
ETA: I once took 8 yellow jackets when they had ephedra in them still because I didn't feel the effects and was working a job that was draining me, I was a retard, and ended up in the hospital. Also Yohimbe is some potent stuff for energy, read the bottle incorrectly and took 2 at once. I'm a retard still  , and after a few hours my heart felt like it was gonna blow up. There I was in my living room running around thinking it would help and forcing myself to throw up and try to get it out of my system even tho too much time had passed to throw it up.
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I had been taking NO-Xplode and 1.M.R, Men's one a day multi vitamin, fish oil, Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake. As I was going down I was just like fuck couldn't you just have waited another 70m body?
Also some numbers from my labs: *some of these abbreviations I am not sure what they are* blood sugar spiked to 239 and I am not diabetic CK 422 WBC 29.1 BUN/Cr 20/1.9 Anion Gap Lactate 28.5 pH 6.9 BP was 196/134 The pH level was very low and my blood was more acidic than water which has a pH of 7.0. The human body is right around 7.3. My creatinine levels peaked at 3.4, normal human kidneys are around .6. These are huge difference in the body since its very particular. Probably why I was in some pain too. |
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I had been taking NO-Xplode and 1.M.R, Men's one a day multi vitamin, fish oil, Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake. As I was going down I was just like fuck couldn't you just have waited another 70m body? NO-Xplode is most likely the cause  . That crap is horrible and overpriced.
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Shocker: Pre-workout, a supplement that simulates (often actually is...) amphetamines is bad for you and can eventually cause you to have a heart attack. Glad you're ok OP. Hope plenty hear you and heed it. I've taken more than my fair share of "uppers" for working out (ECA stack ftw!), back before the shit they bottle now...and knew it wasn't necessarily good for me. Stuff now is horrendous... I try to tell everyone at work the same thing...you don't need a pre-workout and that it'll wreck your body. Had one guy at work have kidney problems from them...his doctor made him stop taking it...or else his kidneys were going to fail. Have a strong cup of coffee and/or get plenty of sleep. |
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Quoted: I had been taking NO-Xplode and 1.M.R, Men's one a day multi vitamin, fish oil, Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake. As I was going down I was just like fuck couldn't you just have waited another 70m body? |
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Quoted: NO-Xplode is most likely the cause . That crap is horrible and overpriced.Quoted: Quoted: I had been taking NO-Xplode and 1.M.R, Men's one a day multi vitamin, fish oil, Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake. As I was going down I was just like fuck couldn't you just have waited another 70m body? NO-Xplode is most likely the cause . That crap is horrible and overpriced.Yup...and the 1 MR....rest of the stuff is fine. |
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Those are all pretty common. Are there thousands of others with failing kidneys too? Quoted:
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I had been taking NO-Xplode and 1.M.R, Men's one a day multi vitamin, fish oil, Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60 protein shake. As I was going down I was just like fuck couldn't you just have waited another 70m body? It was just a ticking time bomb in my case, but yes you would be suprised how many case studies the doctors showed me with acute kidney injuries based on these types of supplements. |
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No I was not, I had started with 1.M.R and then ended up switching to NO. Quoted:
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Also were you taking the 1 mr and no-xplode together? No I was not, I had started with 1.M.R and then ended up switching to NO. When I took no-xplode I took one scoop a day and I was pretty jittery. There are better options that don't use caffeine to kick start you. |
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Before I got out of the Army this year, the new CG of Camp Casey, Korea banned ALL supplement use for 2nd ID soldiers. The GNC store on base was a ghost town. I thought it was retarded and over-bearing at the time, but fuckkkkkkk.......damn glad you're ok OP. I really think it shoudln't be sold over seas, especially in theater. Now that I think back we used to take a scoop and chase it with a damn ripit to stay awake on patrols and towers. Its amazing we never got hurt, considering the heat. |
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No-Xplode Fruit Punch by BSN 2.48 lb Powder No-Xplode Fruit Punch 2.25 lb (1025g) Powder NO Meta-Fusion (L-arginine AKG Citral-M (citrulline malate) L-citrulline AKG L-histidine AKG RC-NOS (rutacarpine 95 ) gynostemma pentaphyllum (95 gypenosides) NAD (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) Muscle Volumizing Creatine Matrix 2CM (dicreatine malate) Betapure (trimethylglycine) Glycovol (glycocyamine) GuaniPro (guanidino proplonic acid) Cinnulin PF (aqueous cinnamon extract) keto-isocaproate potassium Ener-Tropic Xplosion L-tyrosine taurine Endurlac (glucuronolactone) l-tyrosine AKG methylxanthines (caffeine) MCT's (medium chain triglycerides) vinpocetine 99 vincamine 99 vinburnine 99 Glycerol Hydrating Polymers Potassium glycerophosphate magnesium glycerophosphate glycerola stearate Suggested Use As a dietary supplement take 2-3 scoops with 8-12 oz. of cold water or any beverage of your choice 30-45 minutes prior to your workout (on an empty stomach). To achieve maximum results avoid eating hmmmm |
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The old jack3d with DMAA was known to do this...if I recall, two Army guys died as a suspected result of the original jack3d formula.
I've taken a bunch of different pre workouts for years and NO still makes me feel like shit and jittery when I take it. C4 was great for a while, but I switched to Jym Pre by Jym a couple months ago and LOVE it. He is super good about listing everything in his supps, avoiding "proprietary blends" and such on the label. |
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It was just a ticking time bomb in my case, but yes you would be suprised how many case studies the doctors showed me with acute kidney injuries based on these types of supplements. I cant believe you didn't already know about it. At all the safety meetings and random safety emails, there are warning about supplements and how bad they are, especially at the dosages most take them. |
| Glad to hear your ok op. New research suggest that carbs pre workout do not help fuel muscles. Reason being that it is extremely hard for that newly introduced glycogen to be absorbed into muscles in that short period of time. Meaning that if the glycogen isn't already intramuscular you won't get its effects. Also, pre workout carbng may cause you to have rebound hypoglycemia. Meaning that, you eat a shit ton of carbs, insulin spikes causes BS to then lower, but wait you are also burning up BS because you are working out. boom BS becomes too low. |
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The old jack3d with DMAA was known to do this...if I recall, two Army guys died as a suspected result of the original jack3d formula. I've taken a bunch of different pre workouts for years and NO still makes me feel like shit and jittery when I take it. C4 was great for a while, but I switched to Jym Pre by Jym a couple months ago and LOVE it. He is super good about listing everything in his supps, avoiding "proprietary blends" and such on the label. I've been thinking about trying that one out. Might have to now. |
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I cant believe you didn't already know about it. At all the safety meetings and random safety emails, there are warning about supplements and how bad they are, especially at the dosages most take them. Quoted:
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It was just a ticking time bomb in my case, but yes you would be suprised how many case studies the doctors showed me with acute kidney injuries based on these types of supplements. I cant believe you didn't already know about it. At all the safety meetings and random safety emails, there are warning about supplements and how bad they are, especially at the dosages most take them. That's why Test should be legal. Want to get big, just take some Test Cyp and do some PCT. Easy peasy and your kidneys and liver won't hate you for it. |
Here's hoping there's no damage.
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I've been thinking about trying that one out. Might have to now. Quoted:
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The old jack3d with DMAA was known to do this...if I recall, two Army guys died as a suspected result of the original jack3d formula. I've taken a bunch of different pre workouts for years and NO still makes me feel like shit and jittery when I take it. C4 was great for a while, but I switched to Jym Pre by Jym a couple months ago and LOVE it. He is super good about listing everything in his supps, avoiding "proprietary blends" and such on the label. I've been thinking about trying that one out. Might have to now. I love it...no jitters, great taste, mixes well, and lasts through my full workout. Everyone I have given a scoop to try, ends up buying it. Give it a shot - you won't regret it! |
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That's why Test should be legal. Want to get big, just take some Test Cyp and do some PCT. Easy peasy and your kidneys and liver won't hate you for it. Quoted:
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It was just a ticking time bomb in my case, but yes you would be suprised how many case studies the doctors showed me with acute kidney injuries based on these types of supplements. I cant believe you didn't already know about it. At all the safety meetings and random safety emails, there are warning about supplements and how bad they are, especially at the dosages most take them. That's why Test should be legal. Want to get big, just take some Test Cyp and do some PCT. Easy peasy and your kidneys and liver won't hate you for it. To be fair - all of the guys I know running cycles, also use a pre drink (especially those running letro). |
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To be fair - all of the guys I know running cycles, also use a pre drink (especially those running letro). Quoted:
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It was just a ticking time bomb in my case, but yes you would be suprised how many case studies the doctors showed me with acute kidney injuries based on these types of supplements. I cant believe you didn't already know about it. At all the safety meetings and random safety emails, there are warning about supplements and how bad they are, especially at the dosages most take them. That's why Test should be legal. Want to get big, just take some Test Cyp and do some PCT. Easy peasy and your kidneys and liver won't hate you for it. To be fair - all of the guys I know running cycles, also use a pre drink (especially those running letro). It's pretty pointless, see my post. The body doesn't shuffle glucose into muscle that quickly. |
