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10/16/2014 9:14:34 PM EDT
If you were POTUS (or otherwise had the power to decide), would you allow the CDC to manage the current situation* or would you throw them under the bus and put USAMRIID in charge?

(Consider this a confidence vote in the CDC)


*Containing and responding to dangerous/ deadly contagious diseases in the US. Including, but not limited to, ebola, Enterovirus D68, EEE, and other threats to the safety and health of our population.

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10/16/2014 9:15:56 PM EDT
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In charge of what?
10/16/2014 9:16:38 PM EDT
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10/16/2014 9:16:43 PM EDT
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Containing and responding to dangerous/ deadly contagious diseases in the US.


ETA: Including, but not limited to, ebola, Enterovirus D68, EEE, and other threats to the safety and health of our population.
10/16/2014 9:18:41 PM EDT
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Read Hot Zone. It has a lot about this question.
10/16/2014 9:18:49 PM EDT
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Containing and responding to dangerous/ deadly contagious diseases in the US.


ETA: Including, but not limited to, ebola, Enterovirus D68, EEE, and other threats to the safety and health of our population.


Ah.

USAMRIID of course.
10/16/2014 9:23:26 PM EDT
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USAMRIID.

CDC has turned out to be nothing more than a political punchline.
10/16/2014 9:23:59 PM EDT
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Votes: CDC 0/ USAMRIID 19

LOL CDC
10/16/2014 9:24:00 PM EDT
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Containing and responding to dangerous/ deadly contagious diseases in the US.


ETA: Including, but not limited to, ebola, Enterovirus D68, EEE, and other threats to the safety and health of our population.


Ah.

USAMRIID of course.


Same here. And the question extends far beyond ebola. Too many contagions coming in from too porous of borders. Too much risk to our own, and while I have certain opinions about Army docs (having been treated by enough of them), I'd still put their dedication to protecting our country and honoring their oath over 99% of civilian doctors.
10/16/2014 9:24:32 PM EDT
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I'd put the democrats in charge of it so they will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
10/16/2014 9:26:03 PM EDT
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posse comitatus?
10/16/2014 9:26:49 PM EDT
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And I'd let them pick and choose, draft if you will, the actual competent CDC personnel as needed.
10/16/2014 9:28:43 PM EDT
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would good would it do?
CDC takes orders from obongo.
USAMRIID takes orders from obongo

see the problem?
10/16/2014 9:32:13 PM EDT
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CDC doctors take an oath.
Army doctors take two.
10/16/2014 9:35:26 PM EDT
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USAMRIID all the fucking way.

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10/16/2014 9:37:42 PM EDT
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10/16/2014 9:49:04 PM EDT
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Looks to me like the CDC leadership is lost.
10/16/2014 9:59:46 PM EDT
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My entire response is based on The Hot Zone.
10/16/2014 10:10:12 PM EDT
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What's the legality of using usamriid in conus?  
10/16/2014 10:10:48 PM EDT
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this.  then .mil
10/16/2014 11:41:58 PM EDT
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How are they different from the Army Corps of Engineers?
10/16/2014 11:44:50 PM EDT
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Wheres TBS been?
10/17/2014 12:00:47 AM EDT
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The CDC leadership was given marching orders to keep this under control until after the midterm elections.  They failed spectacularly.



I still have great faith in the abilities of the CDC doctors, epidemiologists, and laboratory personnel.  However, I think the management needs to be completely purged, and many of the silly side missions of the CDC ("lesbian obesity studies", "gun control epidemiology") should be eliminated.



 
10/17/2014 12:01:15 AM EDT
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Catching ebola, obviously.
10/17/2014 12:36:55 AM EDT
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Never send a politician to do a MAN's job.
10/17/2014 12:37:40 AM EDT
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Neither.
10/17/2014 12:38:26 AM EDT
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Poll fail. No pie
10/17/2014 12:43:25 AM EDT
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USAMRIID


Who would you put in charge?

CDC (5)  4.5%

USAMRIID (107)  95.5%


10/17/2014 12:46:21 AM EDT
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The CDC leadership was given marching orders to keep this under control until after the midterm elections.  They failed spectacularly.

I still have great faith in the abilities of the CDC doctors, epidemiologists, and laboratory personnel.  However, I think the management needs to be completely purged, and many of the silly side missions of the CDC ("lesbian obesity studies", "gun control epidemiology") should be eliminated.
 
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Looks to me like the CDC leadership is lost.

The CDC leadership was given marching orders to keep this under control until after the midterm elections.  They failed spectacularly.

I still have great faith in the abilities of the CDC doctors, epidemiologists, and laboratory personnel.  However, I think the management needs to be completely purged, and many of the silly side missions of the CDC ("lesbian obesity studies", "gun control epidemiology") should be eliminated.
 



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10/17/2014 12:46:53 AM EDT
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It's really an issue of leadership more than anything. So obviously USAMRIID
10/17/2014 12:52:03 AM EDT
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I've been to conferences where both had speakers and I've been to seminars and engagements put on by them solo.

my take is that CDC are the McNamara's and Ivy League types who read a lot of journals but always scoff at anything they don't believe in but really have not active experience working with the subject.

USAMRIID...
those men and women have the merit badges of real world, on the job hands on stuff whose stories kick you in the gut sometimes. I'll take the word of USAMRIID anyday unless they try to pull off a experiment without telling me.
10/17/2014 12:53:01 AM EDT
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The CDC leadership was given marching orders to keep this under control until after the midterm elections.  They failed spectacularly.

I still have great faith in the abilities of the CDC doctors, epidemiologists, and laboratory personnel.  However, I think the management needs to be completely purged, and many of the silly side missions of the CDC ("lesbian obesity studies", "gun control epidemiology") should be eliminated.
 
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Looks to me like the CDC leadership is lost.

The CDC leadership was given marching orders to keep this under control until after the midterm elections.  They failed spectacularly.

I still have great faith in the abilities of the CDC doctors, epidemiologists, and laboratory personnel.  However, I think the management needs to be completely purged, and many of the silly side missions of the CDC ("lesbian obesity studies", "gun control epidemiology") should be eliminated.
 



you don't want thin lesbians????
10/17/2014 12:56:04 AM EDT
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If you were POTUS (or otherwise had the power to decide), would you allow the CDC to manage the current situation* or would you throw them under the bus and put USAMRIID in charge?

(Consider this a confidence vote in the CDC)


*Containing and responding to dangerous/ deadly contagious diseases in the US. Including, but not limited to, ebola, Enterovirus D68, EEE, and other threats to the safety and health of our population.

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I would have voted for The_Beer_Slayer but that's not an option.   I guess he could be put in charge of US AMRIID for it.
10/17/2014 11:12:15 AM EDT
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Bingo.
10/17/2014 11:18:43 AM EDT
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Oh no, somebody tell TBS that what he did at Reston was against the law.
10/17/2014 11:21:05 AM EDT
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If I were in charge?

Contract the whole thing out as a joint venture between Pfizer, FedEx, and whatever Blackwater is calling itself these days.  
10/17/2014 11:32:54 AM EDT
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Catching ebola, obviously.
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Catching ebola, obviously.


Hes either tired of the Ebola threads or off dealing with Ebola.
10/17/2014 11:43:26 AM EDT
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From USAMRIID's website:

— Mission —

To protect the Warfighter from biological threats and to be prepared
to investigate disease outbreaks or threats to public health
.


— Medical Product Development —

USAMRIID's research, development, testing and evaluation efforts have resulted in the development of vaccines, currently in various stages of clinical trials, to protect against the following biological threats:

Anthrax
Botulism
Plague
Ebola and Marburg hemorrhagic fevers
Hantavirus
Ricin toxin
Staphylococcal enterotoxin B

http://www.usamriid.army.mil/index.cfm
10/17/2014 11:51:12 AM EDT
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Did you just call me a pussy communist?



 
10/17/2014 11:56:06 AM EDT
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Neither.
I would appoint the man who approved the loan guarantees for Solyndra as Ebola czar.

What could go wrong?
10/17/2014 12:10:09 PM EDT
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What could go wrong ?