[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Question for Army guys (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 9/28/2014 5:51:24 PM EDT
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Having been enlisted for a good while, and knowing now what activities are entailed in certain MOSs, I've got a question.
If you were back at the MEPS and you had a choice between 11X, 68W and 31B, which would you choose and why? |
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If I was 19 again etc. It's what I really wanted to do and what I should have done. But I thought I would go Intel, get an awesome secret squirrel job, then get out and get a good paying job. Looking back I should have went Infantry>Ranger>SF(or at least tried) After basic( at 20 yrs old) I wanted to do nothing but blow shit up and kill people 
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I would do 68W then find out what additional mos's that you could get.
Respiratory therapy Biomedical repair, LVN, Lab tech Bloodbank tech OR tech Physical therapy tech. Pharmacy tech Nursing school, PA training, Med school. Then again I was in as a 91A, then 91B then 91C then one of the last 3 
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It really depends on what you want to do. Do you want to shoot guns and go on patrols? Are you looking for a job/training for something outside the military?
I would put MP off the table, has got to be one of the worst jobs in the military, all the bad parts of being a cop, with all the bad parts of being in the Army. 
Between the three, I'd probably go 11X, if I were enlisting again. But, it's a hard question to respond to, without knowing the person asking it. Quoted:
Real men go 13B... He's got a point, you know.... |
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Having been enlisted for a good while, and knowing now what activities are entailed in certain MOSs, I've got a question. If you were back at the MEPS and you had a choice between 11X, 68W and 31B, which would you choose and why? You're not going to get a good answer out of that question, unless the one guy who's actually done all three MOS is a member on here and paying attention. They're too damn different. 11X might as well be a different damn army from the other two, and neither of those are anywhere near congruent with each other, either. Totally different cultures that attract totally different people, in my experience. You want to be an Infantryman? 11X. The motivations/desires are going to be T-totally different from the average guy who looks at the MOS title "Health Care Specialist", and finds his heart beating faster, just as an MP isn't going to be too interested in humping a ruck 15 miles. Horses for courses, and the ones that pick those three MOS are generally going to be different breeds. Your choice all boils down to what you want to be doing, and what your goals are in the Army. Most folks who are going to choose either the medical field or the MPs are going to be looking for totally different experiences than the guy who's going to sign up as a grunt. Which is it that you want? Now, if you wanted to ask a good question, one that folks might be able to answer, ask which sub-specialty of 11X you ought to try to get in. The answers you get might be kinda valid, then--Or, what health care specialty to seek along with 68W. The people doing those specialties can likely give solid answers, because they know. The number of people who've both been 11-series and 68-series is microscopic, and the guy who's been in all three of your widely varying choices there? He probably doesn't exist. Without actual experience in the MOS, it's damn hard to make the comparison, or give a good reason for why certain choices should be made. |
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Having been enlisted for a good while, and knowing now what activities are entailed in certain MOSs, I've got a question. If you were back at the MEPS and you had a choice between 11X, 68W and 31B, which would you choose and why? 11B, same as I did when I joined before. |
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You're not going to get a good answer out of that question, unless the one guy who's actually done all three MOS is a member on here and paying attention. They're too damn different. 11X might as well be a different damn army from the other two, and neither of those are anywhere near congruent with each other, either. Totally different cultures that attract totally different people, in my experience. You want to be an Infantryman? 11X. The motivations/desires are going to be T-totally different from the average guy who looks at the MOS title "Health Care Specialist", and finds his heart beating faster, just as an MP isn't going to be too interested in humping a ruck 15 miles. Horses for courses, and the ones that pick those three MOS are generally going to be different breeds. Your choice all boils down to what you want to be doing, and what your goals are in the Army. Most folks who are going to choose either the medical field or the MPs are going to be looking for totally different experiences than the guy who's going to sign up as a grunt. Which is it that you want? Now, if you wanted to ask a good question, one that folks might be able to answer, ask which sub-specialty of 11X you ought to try to get in. The answers you get might be kinda valid, then--Or, what health care specialty to seek along with 68W. The people doing those specialties can likely give solid answers, because they know. The number of people who've both been 11-series and 68-series is microscopic, and the guy who's been in all three of your widely varying choices there? He probably doesn't exist. Without actual experience in the MOS, it's damn hard to make the comparison, or give a good reason for why certain choices should be made. Quoted:
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Having been enlisted for a good while, and knowing now what activities are entailed in certain MOSs, I've got a question. If you were back at the MEPS and you had a choice between 11X, 68W and 31B, which would you choose and why? You're not going to get a good answer out of that question, unless the one guy who's actually done all three MOS is a member on here and paying attention. They're too damn different. 11X might as well be a different damn army from the other two, and neither of those are anywhere near congruent with each other, either. Totally different cultures that attract totally different people, in my experience. You want to be an Infantryman? 11X. The motivations/desires are going to be T-totally different from the average guy who looks at the MOS title "Health Care Specialist", and finds his heart beating faster, just as an MP isn't going to be too interested in humping a ruck 15 miles. Horses for courses, and the ones that pick those three MOS are generally going to be different breeds. Your choice all boils down to what you want to be doing, and what your goals are in the Army. Most folks who are going to choose either the medical field or the MPs are going to be looking for totally different experiences than the guy who's going to sign up as a grunt. Which is it that you want? Now, if you wanted to ask a good question, one that folks might be able to answer, ask which sub-specialty of 11X you ought to try to get in. The answers you get might be kinda valid, then--Or, what health care specialty to seek along with 68W. The people doing those specialties can likely give solid answers, because they know. The number of people who've both been 11-series and 68-series is microscopic, and the guy who's been in all three of your widely varying choices there? He probably doesn't exist. Without actual experience in the MOS, it's damn hard to make the comparison, or give a good reason for why certain choices should be made. 68W is my #1 for the time being but I'm still not 100% sure if it's something I would enjoy doing exclusively. Right now I'm thinking 11X first because I would enjoy it most I think, and then reclass to 68W for the training I know I need (and want) when I go back to school. I don't know how the reclassification process goes but it doesn't sound bad. 31B realistically is a fallback if neither are available, but it's still my #3 based on everything I've heard. Unfortunately the technical and computer related stuff is off limits to me. |
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Quoted: 68W is my #1 for the time being but I'm still not 100% sure if it's something I would enjoy doing exclusively. Right now I'm thinking 11X first because I would enjoy it most I think, and then reclass to 68W for the training I know I need (and want) when I go back to school. I don't know how the reclassification process goes but it doesn't sound bad. 31B realistically is a fallback if neither are available, but it's still my #3 based on everything I've heard. Unfortunately the technical and computer related stuff is off limits to me. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Having been enlisted for a good while, and knowing now what activities are entailed in certain MOSs, I've got a question. If you were back at the MEPS and you had a choice between 11X, 68W and 31B, which would you choose and why? You're not going to get a good answer out of that question, unless the one guy who's actually done all three MOS is a member on here and paying attention. They're too damn different. 11X might as well be a different damn army from the other two, and neither of those are anywhere near congruent with each other, either. Totally different cultures that attract totally different people, in my experience. You want to be an Infantryman? 11X. The motivations/desires are going to be T-totally different from the average guy who looks at the MOS title "Health Care Specialist", and finds his heart beating faster, just as an MP isn't going to be too interested in humping a ruck 15 miles. Horses for courses, and the ones that pick those three MOS are generally going to be different breeds. Your choice all boils down to what you want to be doing, and what your goals are in the Army. Most folks who are going to choose either the medical field or the MPs are going to be looking for totally different experiences than the guy who's going to sign up as a grunt. Which is it that you want? Now, if you wanted to ask a good question, one that folks might be able to answer, ask which sub-specialty of 11X you ought to try to get in. The answers you get might be kinda valid, then--Or, what health care specialty to seek along with 68W. The people doing those specialties can likely give solid answers, because they know. The number of people who've both been 11-series and 68-series is microscopic, and the guy who's been in all three of your widely varying choices there? He probably doesn't exist. Without actual experience in the MOS, it's damn hard to make the comparison, or give a good reason for why certain choices should be made. 68W is my #1 for the time being but I'm still not 100% sure if it's something I would enjoy doing exclusively. Right now I'm thinking 11X first because I would enjoy it most I think, and then reclass to 68W for the training I know I need (and want) when I go back to school. I don't know how the reclassification process goes but it doesn't sound bad. 31B realistically is a fallback if neither are available, but it's still my #3 based on everything I've heard. Unfortunately the technical and computer related stuff is off limits to me. I've enjoyed being a 31B. I'm enjoying being a 31E less, and looking forward to transitioning back before long. |
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Deployment to another Country. Excluding UK. Germany, Korea, Kuwait.... I've heard nothing but good stories. Living in a foreign shithole wouldn't be much of a transition anyway. Quoted:
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OP What do you want of an enlistment? Monk Deployment to another Country. Excluding UK. Germany, Korea, Kuwait.... I've heard nothing but good stories. Living in a foreign shithole wouldn't be much of a transition anyway. Someone lied to you. 
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MP stands for Multi-Purpose.
Whatever job comes up when you're deployed....you get it. 24 hours in a day....8 hours on the cage, 8 hours for whatever missions come up (escorts, route security, etc.), and 8 to sleep, maintain your weapons and vehicle, eat, wash your ass, whatever. Then the Fuck You Fairy shows up and your Plt Sgt will come by and politely let you know that the 2 hours of sleep you were about to get have been canceled because another mission has come up and everyone else is otherwise employed. Then your pogue ass headquarters company will notify your Plt Sgt that even though you are in Baghdad Int Airport that was just taken days earlier your records indicate that you are due for a PT Test and it needs to be done ASAP. You will get notified maybe a day in advance and bright and early after being awake for so long you can't remember when you slept last you will find yourself climbing out of your truck fresh from escorting motherfuckers all over the city to start doing push ups and sit ups and a two mile run. It will be a nice run past fighting positions that still have uniforms, weapons, and other junk laying around them. You will have a trail vehicle with your weapons....because it is still a war atfer all. Then your Sqd Ldr will have a fucking fit because you said fuck it and did the minimum to pass on purpose. When you finally get back home you won't get leave like everyone else because the old man in building 1 doesn't want the Nat Guard MPs that ran the place while you were gone to fuck with Joe when he gets home. You get to go straight from Iraq to 12 hour shifts getting cussed at by grunts beating their cheating wives and giving you all kinds of shit even though you are trying to find ways to not arrest every dumb bastard you come across. By the time you get leave it will be time to start getting ready for more time in the field and prepping for JRTC or NTC.... It just goes on and on. If I could go back I would pick just about anything other than MP. If you want to be a cop, that's fine. Just make sure you go somewhere with a garrison unit. If you go to division you will be everything they want you to be, whenever they want it. You will get the green weenie. You will get that bitch unlubed and it will punish you. |
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Deployment to another Country. Excluding UK. Germany, Korea, Kuwait.... I've heard nothing but good stories. Living in a foreign shithole wouldn't be much of a transition anyway. Quoted:
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OP What do you want of an enlistment? Monk Deployment to another Country. Excluding UK. Germany, Korea, Kuwait.... I've heard nothing but good stories. Living in a foreign shithole wouldn't be much of a transition anyway. You should probably look up the difference in definitions between deployment, tdy, and pcs. Because you're using "deployment" as a catch-all. UK, Korea, Germany are not deployments. They're either a TDY or a PCS. |
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Quoted: If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. If you are 18 years old, I think you need a couple years in a regular infantry unit, or maybe Ranger Regiment before going that route. Coming in off the street with some life experience under your belt, different story. IMO. |
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Theoretically (and ironically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though. 
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. |
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Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. Quoted:
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. |
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You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. Quoted:
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. |
| I was a 68W. I then got the M6 identifier. Nursing school after for RN was a joke compared to the depth of knowledge and clinical skills I learned through the M6 program. My 11 series friends had a longer road to hoe when they got out. It all depends on what you want to do and what your long term goals are. |
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Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. Quoted:
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. How old are you? |
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Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. Quoted:
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. Nope, no college needed. I was thinking about enlisting as 18x, but you have to be 20 by the end of OSUT, and their graduation was 3 days before my 20th birthday
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Someone lied to you.
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OP What do you want of an enlistment? Monk Deployment to another Country. Excluding UK. Germany, Korea, Kuwait.... I've heard nothing but good stories. Living in a foreign shithole wouldn't be much of a transition anyway. Someone lied to you.
I didn't hear too many good things about Korea. |
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MP stands for Multi-Purpose. Whatever job comes up when you're deployed....you get it. 24 hours in a day....8 hours on the cage, 8 hours for whatever missions come up (escorts, route security, etc.), and 8 to sleep, maintain your weapons and vehicle, eat, wash your ass, whatever. Then the Fuck You Fairy shows up and your Plt Sgt will come by and politely let you know that the 2 hours of sleep you were about to get have been canceled because another mission has come up and everyone else is otherwise employed. Then your pogue ass headquarters company will notify your Plt Sgt that even though you are in Baghdad Int Airport that was just taken days earlier your records indicate that you are due for a PT Test and it needs to be done ASAP. You will get notified maybe a day in advance and bright and early after being awake for so long you can't remember when you slept last you will find yourself climbing out of your truck fresh from escorting motherfuckers all over the city to start doing push ups and sit ups and a two mile run. It will be a nice run past fighting positions that still have uniforms, weapons, and other junk laying around them. You will have a trail vehicle with your weapons....because it is still a war atfer all. Then your Sqd Ldr will have a fucking fit because you said fuck it and did the minimum to pass on purpose. When you finally get back home you won't get leave like everyone else because the old man in building 1 doesn't want the Nat Guard MPs that ran the place while you were gone to fuck with Joe when he gets home. You get to go straight from Iraq to 12 hour shifts getting cussed at by grunts beating their cheating wives and giving you all kinds of shit even though you are trying to find ways to not arrest every dumb bastard you come across. By the time you get leave it will be time to start getting ready for more time in the field and prepping for JRTC or NTC.... It just goes on and on. If I could go back I would pick just about anything other than MP. If you want to be a cop, that's fine. Just make sure you go somewhere with a garrison unit. If you go to division you will be everything they want you to be, whenever they want it. You will get the green weenie. You will get that bitch unlubed and it will punish you. Lol. I'm gonna borrow that. |
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If I was going to be enlisted again, I would go in as an 18X. Nothing else. Ironically (and theoretically) I could go SF if it were available. I wouldn't be allowed in Ranger school though.
Actually I'm not sure if I can go directly for SF yet. I'll have to ask them. You can go SF right outta the gate. You have to go through Basic then Airborne school the straight to the Q coarse. All part of your enlistment package IIRC. Nice, I was thinking you needed a certain degree or some college credits. Make sure you realize that this is 3+ years of mentally and physically demanding training that you can just be peered out of, its going to be tough. I've heard that people make it most of the way and just drop out because they've been separated from their loved ones for so long. |
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19. Took a college course in HS so I have 1 cred. Haven't enrolled in the school itself yet though. Quoted:
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How old are you? 19. Took a college course in HS so I have 1 cred. Haven't enrolled in the school itself yet though.  I thought clinteastwood and I were the only members under 20
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Wait till you grow out of the "My Little Pony Shit"
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How old are you? 19. Took a college course in HS so I have 1 cred. Haven't enrolled in the school itself yet though. I thought clinteastwood and I were the only members under 20Man we've got 10 year olds roaming around GD. There is in fact a pit thread about one right now. |