Posted: 9/26/2014 10:39:14 PM EDT
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Does anybody here choose to send there kids to a Charter school instead of the local public school ?
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| Yes. Our chosen charter school is awesome; iirc in the top 2% of schools in the state (FL). Slots only available through lotto, parents have to volunteer, etc. mean that nearly all the kids there want to be there- makes for a much better (although more demanding) environment. Obviously not all are created equal; if our son didn't get into this certain charter then he would have gone to a public school that offered the program we were looking for. |
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Yes. Our chosen charter school is awesome; iirc in the top 2% of schools in the state (FL). Slots only available through lotto, parents have to volunteer, etc. mean that nearly all the kids there want to be there- makes for a much better (although more demanding) environment. Obviously not all are created equal; if our son didn't get into this certain charter then he would have gone to a public school that offered the program we were looking for. Sounds similar to our situation with our daughter. She will be going into a charter school that is excellent in its performance records. Funny thing, I am a public school teacher and our son went through public school but he is gifted and is finishing up the IB diploma. Each kid is different, though both gifted, but their differing schools offered something that was ideal for each kid. Do the research and decide for yourself. Some charter schools are a joke. Others have great things to offer. You really have to look at how the kids perform on testing, student population, teacher accreditations, special program offerings, etc. |
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My daughter goes to a charter school. 2nd grade. It's still a fucking indoctrination camp. She finally started believing me that global warming wasn't real after our bad winter last year and seeing the ice on Lake Superior in June. In 2012 they had a vote for president. Before the vote the teacher told the kids that Romney would take away Sesame Street and PBS. Guess who won.
She is going to go to a private school that starts in 4th grade. |
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My two daughters go to a charter school. The particular one they attend requires high grades and test scores to get invited in. They are without a doubt working on material that is beyond what the kids in regular public schools are working on.
My son, my oldest child could have got in but he chose to stay at the school he was going to because of his friends. I worry that he is not getting the education he should be, but I currently have no control over that, my ex (his mother) does. |
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Thanks all
We have an appt Monday to tour a charter school that's about 20 miles from our home . They happen to have had 2 openings come available for our twins We aren't that happy with our local public elementary , and we defiantly want to have an option before middle school starts in 2 years ( middle school is a central school in the city very large ) |
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We just moved from a town that had shitty schools, so our kid went to a charter school. It was an awesome school, hell bent on the kids growing up to be educated and pruductive.
We moved to a town with excellent public schools. I think The charter school was better. . |
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They're both government schools. 
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. Quoted:
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Nearly anything is better than a government school.
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. Although they recieve government funding, the distinguishing characteristic of a charter school is that it operates independently. |
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They're both government schools.
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. Quoted:
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Nearly anything is better than a government school.
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. They're both government funded. A public school is run by the government (and teacher's unions). A charter school is fun by an independent board typically made up of parents. It still has a few state regulations to follow, but it's largely independent. |
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One thing I have started to notice is "some" charter schools have well adjusted curriculum and honest education at a fair price.
Some "other" charter schools are a last ditch attempt by frustrated parents to give their maladjusted, borderline criminal children a last chance before a life of crime and lifetime welfare with multi racial babies from long disappeared sperm donor partners. |
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They're both government funded. A public school is run by the government (and teacher's unions). A charter school is fun by an independent board typically made up of parents. It still has a few state regulations to follow, but it's largely independent. Quoted:
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Nearly anything is better than a government school.
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. They're both government funded. A public school is run by the government (and teacher's unions). A charter school is fun by an independent board typically made up of parents. It still has a few state regulations to follow, but it's largely independent. What do unions have to do with this topic? First, you are in Florida. That means you are in a right to work state so teachers don't have to belong to a union. Secondly, charter schools can and do have union teachers in them. Charter schools have to comply to district and state regulations. The idea that charter schools do not comply with local and state regulations is unfounded. The local school board has to approve the charter school before it can proceed with operations. If the charter school is failing to comply with district expectations, they can shut the school down or pull accreditation. |
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What do unions have to do with this topic? First, you are in Florida. That means you are in a right to work state so teachers don't have to belong to a union. Secondly, charter schools can and do have union teachers in them. Charter schools have to comply to district and state regulations. The idea that charter schools do not comply with local and state regulations is unfounded. The local school board has to approve the charter school before it can proceed with operations. If the charter school is failing to comply with district expectations, they can shut the school down or pull accreditation. Quoted:
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Nearly anything is better than a government school.
The only difference is, one keeps the tards out. However, the other issue is they can teach more freely, for better or worse. They're both government funded. A public school is run by the government (and teacher's unions). A charter school is fun by an independent board typically made up of parents. It still has a few state regulations to follow, but it's largely independent. What do unions have to do with this topic? First, you are in Florida. That means you are in a right to work state so teachers don't have to belong to a union. Secondly, charter schools can and do have union teachers in them. Charter schools have to comply to district and state regulations. The idea that charter schools do not comply with local and state regulations is unfounded. The local school board has to approve the charter school before it can proceed with operations. If the charter school is failing to comply with district expectations, they can shut the school down or pull accreditation. Because the unions have a LOT of influence at the district. You can say that an elected school board runs things, but the day-to-day operations have a huge union influence. No, teachers don't have to belong to a union, but most do and it's very powerful at the local level. Yes, teachers in a charter school can unionize. I'd wager that most don't; ours don't want to. If you'll read my post, I specifically said that it still has state regulations to follow. But the personnel, and thus how the school basically operates, are controlled by the board, not the local school district, and not the state. Local district boards have their hands tied; if they deny a charter application for no good reason it goes to the state where it will get approved. And they have to have good reasons (fortunately) to shut one down and those reasons go well beyond the "district expectations", otherwise no charter would exist anywhere in Florida. Nobody hates competition like the government. |
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public education is borderline child abuse in many districts.
please, if you have any other choice, do it. if you have no other choice. you need to seriously consider leaving the kids out in the woods to be raised by wolves. then at least when they become adults. they will be able to feed and shelter themselves. |
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Charter schools are fantastic as they kick the fucking scum out of the school if they don't perform. Well, no shit they are better than the have to take all, can't refuse anyone, can't kick anyone out public schools. They can kick them out if they don't behave. Grades and academic performance are not a factor for entrance or kicking out (in Florida, anyway); it's illegal. |
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They can kick them out if they don't behave. Grades and academic performance are not a factor for entrance or kicking out (in Florida, anyway); it's illegal. Quoted:
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Charter schools are fantastic as they kick the fucking scum out of the school if they don't perform. Well, no shit they are better than the have to take all, can't refuse anyone, can't kick anyone out public schools. They can kick them out if they don't behave. Grades and academic performance are not a factor for entrance or kicking out (in Florida, anyway); it's illegal. Behavior and grades run hand in hand. |
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Behavior and grades run hand in hand. Quoted:
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Charter schools are fantastic as they kick the fucking scum out of the school if they don't perform. Well, no shit they are better than the have to take all, can't refuse anyone, can't kick anyone out public schools. They can kick them out if they don't behave. Grades and academic performance are not a factor for entrance or kicking out (in Florida, anyway); it's illegal. Behavior and grades run hand in hand. No, they don't. We have some kids straight out of the projects. They don't always kill it on the SAT, but they're well behaved and set up for success. |
| My kid is at North Phoenix Preparatory Academy. Its a good charter school. Mostly motivated kids. Mostly motivated staff. Mostly motivated parents. The middle school curriculum is more advanced than regular HS curriculum here. Algebra and Latin are sixth grade subjects. |
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No, they don't. We have some kids straight out of the projects. They don't always kill it on the SAT, but they're well behaved and set up for success. Quoted:
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Charter schools are fantastic as they kick the fucking scum out of the school if they don't perform. Well, no shit they are better than the have to take all, can't refuse anyone, can't kick anyone out public schools. They can kick them out if they don't behave. Grades and academic performance are not a factor for entrance or kicking out (in Florida, anyway); it's illegal. Behavior and grades run hand in hand. No, they don't. We have some kids straight out of the projects. They don't always kill it on the SAT, but they're well behaved and set up for success. We will just have to disagree. Half the kids here come from the projects and most are great. The ones failing, not showing up for school, that fight, disrupt classrooms all the time are not passing anything but maybe breakfast and lunch. |
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We will just have to disagree. Half the kids here come from the projects and most are great. The ones failing, not showing up for school, that fight, disrupt classrooms all the time are not passing anything but maybe breakfast and lunch. I'm not saying that bad behavior doesn't equal bad grades; it almost always does. I'm saying you can make poor grades and still be well behaved and not a disruption to everyone. |
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Quoted: Nearly anything is better than a government school. the charter school my son goes to is pretty awesome and has a conservative leaning,we registered him at 6months so there would be a spot for him and Im glad we did.. |
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Depends on where you live. Bingo. Some Public Schools are very good. Some are (as stated above) borderline Child Abuse. You've got to make a choice based on your individual situation. Public, Private, Charter - all are viable options; which is best depends on your individual situation. |
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I have two kids in a charter school, and one that "Was" in public!!
My oldest will graduate this year! Middle son next year! Youngest has had a miserable time in public school! We are now homeschooling him with the help of a virtual academy! The goal is to get him back where he needs to be, then enroll him in the charter school!! My take is no matter where you are there are two types of educators! You have 1) actual teachers, who engage and enspire our children! Then you have 2) the "Testers"! They do as little as possible, pushing most of the process of learning on the student, and parents! Then administer tests, in which they learn how to manipulate in thier favor, while the child falls farther n farther behind in reality!! It is my opinion that "in our area at least" you run about 80% testers, to 20% actual teachers!! That's only 2 out of 10 who actually teach our kids! We did luck out "1 (one) year, and got an awsome teacher that actually taught!! All the rest were just babysitters who administered tests! These sacks of shit are comfortable sitting back, pushing as much responsibility on the student/parent as they possibly can! Then scramble to manipulate the stats to make it look on paper like they are actually doing thier job!! My very own sister is a third grade "Tester" in public school! And every bad habit she has learned came from both on the job training in public school, and the teacher mill she got her so called degree from! So in summary, Charter schools provide a slightly better education/experience in my opinion! |
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So, you're saying that charter schools are controlled by a school board and not by a school board?  Quoted:
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But the personnel, and thus how the school basically operates, are controlled by the board, not the local school district So, you're saying that charter schools are controlled by a school board and not by a school board? Their board, though, is generally composed of Parents, while most of the school district boards are generally controlled by the Teachers Union. (And you watch the screaming from the union when they get a board that isn't bought & paid for...) |
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So, you're saying that charter schools are controlled by a school board and not by a school board? Quoted:
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But the personnel, and thus how the school basically operates, are controlled by the board, not the local school district So, you're saying that charter schools are controlled by a school board and not by a school board? Sorry if that was confusing; they're controlled by the charter school board, not the elected county or city board. The charter school board typically consists of parents. |
| Our daughter went to a private religious school through elementary school, but for middle we sent her to a magnet school that is an IB academy. They are very strict and don't tolerate bad behavior, We all loved her private school but she's very, very smart and it just wasn't challenging her academically. |
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I have two kids in a charter school, and one that "Was" in public!! My oldest will graduate this year! Middle son next year! Youngest has had a miserable time in public school! We are now homeschooling him with the help of a virtual academy! The goal is to get him back where he needs to be, then enroll him in the charter school!! My take is no matter where you are there are two types of educators! You have 1) actual teachers, who engage and enspire our children! Then you have 2) the "Testers"! They do as little as possible, pushing most of the process of learning on the student, and parents! Then administer tests, in which they learn how to manipulate in thier favor, while the child falls farther n farther behind in reality!! It is my opinion that "in our area at least" you run about 80% testers, to 20% actual teachers!! That's only 2 out of 10 who actually teach our kids! We did luck out "1 (one) year, and got an awsome teacher that actually taught!! All the rest were just babysitters who administered tests! These sacks of shit are comfortable sitting back, pushing as much responsibility on the student/parent as they possibly can! Then scramble to manipulate the stats to make it look on paper like they are actually doing thier job!! My very own sister is a third grade "Tester" in public school! And every bad habit she has learned came from both on the job training in public school, and the teacher mill she got her so called degree from! So in summary, Charter schools provide a slightly better education/experience in my opinion! Wow, everything sounds so exciting! |
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We are in eastern NC
Homeschool sounds ok , but we really want a solid education for our children. I work full time , and my wife realizes that while they are young she could home school , but the time will come quickly that the quality of education we could provide at home may not be on par with a quality charter school. The charter school we are looking at is in Arapahoe , this school ranks pretty high on all rating web sites I could find with google. We have an interview Monday |
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The government can't do the simplest of tasks properly, how can they suddenly become competent enough to take on a task like educating your most precious children? Quoted:
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Nearly anything is better than a government school. The government can't do the simplest of tasks properly, how can they suddenly become competent enough to take on a task like educating your most precious children? "Suddenly?" Only for 200 years. |
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We entered our oldest in the charter school's lotto and she got wait listed. A spot opened up a week after school started and by that time she fell in love with her class and school. Her elementary school ranks high in the state so we didn't fight it and so far it appears to be working out. The charter school's requirements are fairly time intensive so it would make sense that these students should do good given the parent support system required. Right our town is reevaluating how it pays the students tuition to the school. They found that the claims that it would even out (savings to the public school) didn't even come close to panning out. The kids come from all the town's school in various grades so there was no significant different in class size or savings for not needing additional teachers. The town also has one of the lowest per student costs. |
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We entered our oldest in the charter school's lotto and she got wait listed. A spot opened up a week after school started and by that time she fell in love with her class and school. Her elementary school ranks high in the state so we didn't fight it and so far it appears to be working out. The charter school's requirements are fairly time intensive so it would make sense that these students should do good given the parent support system required. Right our town is reevaluating how it pays the students tuition to the school. They found that the claims that it would even out (savings to the public school) didn't even come close to panning out. The kids come from all the town's school in various grades so there was no significant different in class size or savings for not needing additional teachers. The town also has one of the lowest per student costs. I'm not trying to speak to your city's particular situation, but school districts always complain about losing money to charter schools. They cannot stand the fact that there's an alternative they don't control. In the long run it evens out, because the money goes with the child that's being educated. I have no idea how RI's laws are; some states do a lot to protect charters from the politicians and some don't. |
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Quoted: I'm not trying to speak to your city's particular situation, but school districts always complain about losing money to charter schools. They cannot stand the fact that there's an alternative they don't control. In the long run it evens out, because the money goes with the child that's being educated. I have no idea how RI's laws are; some states do a lot to protect charters from the politicians and some don't. Quoted: Quoted: We entered our oldest in the charter school's lotto and she got wait listed. A spot opened up a week after school started and by that time she fell in love with her class and school. Her elementary school ranks high in the state so we didn't fight it and so far it appears to be working out. The charter school's requirements are fairly time intensive so it would make sense that these students should do good given the parent support system required. Right our town is reevaluating how it pays the students tuition to the school. They found that the claims that it would even out (savings to the public school) didn't even come close to panning out. The kids come from all the town's school in various grades so there was no significant different in class size or savings for not needing additional teachers. The town also has one of the lowest per student costs. I'm not trying to speak to your city's particular situation, but school districts always complain about losing money to charter schools. They cannot stand the fact that there's an alternative they don't control. In the long run it evens out, because the money goes with the child that's being educated. I have no idea how RI's laws are; some states do a lot to protect charters from the politicians and some don't. in our case it's not just the school district, but also the mayor who actually helped form the school with mayors from neighboring towns (each town gets slots and pays the school tuition for each student). Essentially, the town pays over a million(iirc $1.4 million) for the current students and they are realizing an estimated savings less a third of that. Big enough that several candidates this fall are running on fixing it.
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