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9/19/2014 9:48:02 AM EDT
A friend of mine who is in grad school got into a heated discussion with a classmate over the Adrian Peterson child abuse thing.  My friend is mid to late 30s, and grew up in Mississippi and then moved to the metro-DC area of MD after his parents divorced.  His classmate had never heard of being "switched," and she said it must be something only blacks in the South do.  So my friend called me to see if I had ever been switched, and I have because was raised in the South.  

So, how about everyone else?  Is switching a regional thing?  I have never talked to my friends from outside of the South about how they were disciplined when they were growing up so I don't really know if switching is a Southern thing or not.  

FWIW- his classmate went to a private school for undergrad, he thinks she was raised with a silver-spoon in her mouth, he wasn't really sure where she was raised, and they are both now at an HBCU working towards their M.P.P. degrees.  

Poll incoming...
9/19/2014 9:50:00 AM EDT
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did you see the pictures of that little boy?

I have no problem with parents disciplining their children, but that was too much.
9/19/2014 9:50:18 AM EDT
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Thought this was a railroad thread.
9/19/2014 9:51:19 AM EDT
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The worst part about getting the switch is having to go select it yourself.
9/19/2014 9:53:49 AM EDT
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Northeastern Moms used kitchen implements from my experience.
9/19/2014 9:55:03 AM EDT
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I used to leave some foliage on the end to slow it down.  My mom caught on after the first time and she would rip it off and hit me harder.
9/19/2014 9:55:05 AM EDT
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I know what it is, never had it done.  I think it's a Southern thing?

Now, the wooden spoon;

I'm....familiar.


Worst thing you could do, which was also instinctual, was to protect your ass with your hand.  
9/19/2014 9:55:27 AM EDT
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So you're telling me the worst part about getting the switch is, getting the switch?   I always hated the part where the switch made contact with my ass after having passed light speed and going plaid!  



 
9/19/2014 9:55:48 AM EDT
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Old school! You had to think about all the way there, select one that's not too big or too small, and think about all the way back.  THEN, you got switched.

Yeah he did go overboard though.  I never had blood drawn.
9/19/2014 9:57:27 AM EDT
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So you're telling me the worst part about getting the switch is, getting the switch?   I always hated the part where the switch made contact with my ass after having passed light speed and going plaid!  
 
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So you're telling me the worst part about getting the switch is, getting the switch?   I always hated the part where the switch made contact with my ass after having passed light speed and going plaid!  
 

   Its psychological warfare at its finest.
9/19/2014 9:59:57 AM EDT
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My Italian mother used whatever happened to be in her hand at the time she snapped
9/19/2014 10:00:03 AM EDT
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My grandmother would give my dad the switch.  He also had to go get it for her.  I never did, but I did get the belt as a child. Born and raised in So Il just like my dad.  Grandmother was from Arkansas thou so I'm assuming she brought the tradition with here.
9/19/2014 10:00:27 AM EDT
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I was switched in the mid west and the north east. Switches generally cause more pain then the belt or the hand because they are like a whip. They will cause marks very easily.

In school the teacher had us hold out our hand palm up and used a wood ruler. Those are worse than a wooden spoon.
9/19/2014 10:00:40 AM EDT
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Absolutely

I always deserved it though.
9/19/2014 10:02:02 AM EDT
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Dunno about regional...I thought it was fairly common in all sorts of places, although not across every socioeconomic and demographic spectrum.

Use of a switch isn't uncommon.

Working a 4 year old over from his neck to his ankles with one like AP did, on the other hand, is.

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I was switched in the mid west and the north east. Switches generally cause more pain then the belt or the hand because they are like a whip. They will cause marks very easily.

In school the teacher had us hold out our hand palm up and used a wood ruler. Those are worse than a wooden spoon.
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It's the application of force along a very concentrated area. In the old days in England they used rattan canes, which worked along the same principle. Here in the states you'd often see pictures of teachers with sticks they used to point at the board, but those sticks were often employed to whack misbehaving kids, too.

The "benefit", if you could call it that, of these things was that you could inflict enough discomfort to get somebody's attention without having to use a lot of force like you would with, say, a paddle.
9/19/2014 10:05:01 AM EDT
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Came for the layer 2 and 3 networking discussion.



Was disappoint.
9/19/2014 10:05:01 AM EDT
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did you see the pictures of that little boy?

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This, should not break the skin.
9/19/2014 10:05:06 AM EDT
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Old school! You had to think about all the way there, select one that's not too big or too small, and think about all the way back.  THEN, you got switched.

Yeah he did go overboard though.  I never had blood drawn.
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Old school! You had to think about all the way there, select one that's not too big or too small, and think about all the way back.  THEN, you got switched.

Yeah he did go overboard though.  I never had blood drawn.



Yep. You would almost be in tears before you got back with it.
9/19/2014 10:05:16 AM EDT
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I know what it is, never been switched.
9/19/2014 10:05:16 AM EDT
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And God forbid you comeback with one to small.


9/19/2014 10:06:12 AM EDT
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I'm born and raised in MN, I've never been to the "South".
Yes I've been "switched" a few times and I probably deserved it.
9/19/2014 10:07:01 AM EDT
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Old school! You had to think about all the way there, select one that's not too big or too small, and think about all the way back.  THEN, you got switched.



Yeah he did go overboard though.  I never had blood drawn.






Yep. You would almost be in tears before you got back with it.




 
9/19/2014 10:07:33 AM EDT
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Yep, been switched with a bamboo feather duster.
9/19/2014 10:07:44 AM EDT
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The rules on switching seem universal.
9/19/2014 10:10:19 AM EDT
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Yep, I got the wooden spoon.  You had until the count of 3 to get said spoon from the kitchen counter or you were going to get twice as many smacks.
9/19/2014 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Dunno about regional...I thought it was fairly common in all sorts of places, although not across every socioeconomic and demographic spectrum.

Use of a switch isn't uncommon.

Working a 4 year old over from his neck to his ankles with one like AP did, on the other hand, is.



It's the application of force along a very concentrated area. In the old days in England they used rattan canes, which worked along the same principle. Here in the states you'd often see pictures of teachers with sticks they used to point at the board, but those sticks were often employed to whack misbehaving kids, too.

The "benefit", if you could call it that, of these things was that you could inflict enough discomfort to get somebody's attention without having to use a lot of force like you would with, say, a paddle.
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Dunno about regional...I thought it was fairly common in all sorts of places, although not across every socioeconomic and demographic spectrum.

Use of a switch isn't uncommon.

Working a 4 year old over from his neck to his ankles with one like AP did, on the other hand, is.

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I was switched in the mid west and the north east. Switches generally cause more pain then the belt or the hand because they are like a whip. They will cause marks very easily.

In school the teacher had us hold out our hand palm up and used a wood ruler. Those are worse than a wooden spoon.


It's the application of force along a very concentrated area. In the old days in England they used rattan canes, which worked along the same principle. Here in the states you'd often see pictures of teachers with sticks they used to point at the board, but those sticks were often employed to whack misbehaving kids, too.

The "benefit", if you could call it that, of these things was that you could inflict enough discomfort to get somebody's attention without having to use a lot of force like you would with, say, a paddle.


That is child abuse and looks like it was done in anger.  I'd be surprised it the kid ever respected of loved his dad after that.


9/19/2014 10:12:28 AM EDT
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That's the third worse thing, behind the sting of the Mercurochrome put on the scratches afterward, and dreading what Dad would do when he got home.

As my brother and I got older, Mom upped the ante with a riding crop, and Dad began taking away privileges such as desserts, toys, and movies. Bro and I were past the whipping stage by the time TV came around.
9/19/2014 10:13:14 AM EDT
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My dad never had that kind of patience.  He just beat me with a belt until his arms got tired.
9/19/2014 10:13:47 AM EDT
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Talk about mind torture.  You have done something to deserve a punishment.  Your mom says, wait until your father gets home and I tell him what you did.  Father isn't going to be home for hours.......
9/19/2014 10:16:51 AM EDT
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Fly swatter, wooden spoon, yard stick, whatever was in Mom's hand at the moment. Never a branch, but I know what a switching is.

Dad used his hand.
9/19/2014 10:18:02 AM EDT
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This isn't a continuation of my 2-way/3-way light switch thread?

But yes, I've been switched a bunch as a kid. The worst part was being told to go out and cut the switch, then being told no, that one's too little, get a bigger one. The agony of picking your own punishment tool.
9/19/2014 10:18:38 AM EDT
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I don't think I ever got switched. Now the belt... I got very used to hearing my dad's top drawer shut and the belt buckle clanking as he walked down the hall way.



Good times.
9/19/2014 10:19:47 AM EDT
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reminds me of a time I got paddled in school.  

I was in 2nd grade and did something to warrant a paddling.  Before the principal paddled you he always asked if there were any bruises on your bottom from your parents.  I said that I think there were, so he called in another administrator and i had to drop trou and show them.  I did have some.  I was thinking "awesome, no paddling this time!"

They delayed it a week to let the marks heal.  I was on my best behavior hoping they'd change their mind and I still got paddled.  That week was agonizing to me.  

The principal could swing a paddle too. He was drafted by the Braves and made it up to AA before he became a teacher/coach/administrator.
9/19/2014 10:23:12 AM EDT
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Switching is a tool for people who don't have any better way to discipline a child.

If a child can talk and reason, there is no rational reason to hit them with anything.

Spanking is for children too young to understand logic and consequences, to keep them alive and healthy until they can.

Humans "used to" do a lot of stupid shit, under the mistaken impression that it did some good.

A guy at work always chimes in on these discussion about how his dad never held back with the belt or switch. I never do point out that he had a seriously fucked up life, so those beatings did jack squat to help him. Raging alcoholic for most of his life. Got into meth and nearly went to prison for a lengthy stay. I could go on...and on.
9/19/2014 10:23:26 AM EDT
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I learned at a very young age to always have a wallet or something in both back pockets.
9/19/2014 10:29:23 AM EDT
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I still shudder when I see a wooden spoon.
9/19/2014 10:30:22 AM EDT
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I've never heard "switch" used as a verb.

I have (appropriately) had my ass whupped with a switch, however.

9/19/2014 10:30:37 AM EDT
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Born and raised in North.

I know what switching is, and I never got switched.  I got cracked on the ass with a hand, a spatula or a wooden spoon when necessary.  

And yes, physical discipline is necessary and appropriate for raising children into well adjusted adults.
9/19/2014 10:36:34 AM EDT
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did anybody here get switched when they were 4?
9/19/2014 10:39:34 AM EDT
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9/19/2014 10:43:01 AM EDT
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This... and don't come back with an itty-bitty one either or Dad goes and gets one- and he usually picked the club-sized one.
9/19/2014 10:43:12 AM EDT
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Born and raised in North.

I know what switching is, and I never got switched.  I got cracked on the ass with a hand, a spatula or a wooden spoon when necessary.  

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Should we let out the bad blood when they're sick?
9/19/2014 10:43:16 AM EDT
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I agree, individually I wouldn't get all upset about the mark, but the pattern bothered me. What was it 10+ evenly spaced marks?
9/19/2014 10:44:23 AM EDT
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I still remember my first time. I had no idea what was coming and dutifully found one that was exactly what my grandfather described.
9/19/2014 10:47:07 AM EDT
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Yeah, that crossed the line for me as well, know what it is but never heard of it being used around where I grew up (NE Ohio). Paddle seemed to be the instrument of choice.





 
9/19/2014 10:48:45 AM EDT
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I still shudder when I see a wooden spoon.
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I still shudder when I see a wooden spoon.

Mine used a metal spatula.  It rang out when it hit.  Unique sound
9/19/2014 10:49:30 AM EDT
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Dunno about regional...I thought it was fairly common in all sorts of places, although not across every socioeconomic and demographic spectrum.



Use of a switch isn't uncommon.



Working a 4 year old over from his neck to his ankles with one like AP did, on the other hand, is.
It's the application of force along a very concentrated area. In the old days in England they used rattan canes, which worked along the same principle. Here in the states you'd often see pictures of teachers with sticks they used to point at the board, but those sticks were often employed to whack misbehaving kids, too.



The "benefit", if you could call it that, of these things was that you could inflict enough discomfort to get somebody's attention without having to use a lot of force like you would with, say, a paddle.
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Dunno about regional...I thought it was fairly common in all sorts of places, although not across every socioeconomic and demographic spectrum.



Use of a switch isn't uncommon.



Working a 4 year old over from his neck to his ankles with one like AP did, on the other hand, is.




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I was switched in the mid west and the north east. Switches generally cause more pain then the belt or the hand because they are like a whip. They will cause marks very easily.



In school the teacher had us hold out our hand palm up and used a wood ruler. Those are worse than a wooden spoon.




It's the application of force along a very concentrated area. In the old days in England they used rattan canes, which worked along the same principle. Here in the states you'd often see pictures of teachers with sticks they used to point at the board, but those sticks were often employed to whack misbehaving kids, too.



The "benefit", if you could call it that, of these things was that you could inflict enough discomfort to get somebody's attention without having to use a lot of force like you would with, say, a paddle.
Where did you see neck to ankles photos or in print?  I have seen photos of the right leg.  And should not have happened to a 4 year old.  Not defending that.  But if you get switched it will leave a mark, I will reserve judgement for moment IF THIS HAD HAPPENED TO A TEENAGER(using same force).   Maybe not the greatest technique, but I know lots of normal people that got switched by otherwise nonabusive parents.  But this never should have happened to a 4 year old.  He definitely got carried away.  

 
9/19/2014 10:51:26 AM EDT
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One of the news stories supposedly quoted from the police report about evidence of impacts on the child's back, calves, and even scrotum.
9/19/2014 10:57:58 AM EDT
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Switched a few times. Not as many or severe as my brother.  I had/have a high pain tolerance so whipping was less effective than professing disappointment in me.

He kicked me in the shin with cowboy boots when he was ~8 and I was~5.  drew blood and I hit the floor.  Mom drew blood on his legs that time and he never wore boots and shorts again.

Hand, belt, switch and metal handled flyswatter.  The flyswatter was the worst.

Parents used to pull off of side of road on trips to our grandparents house at this same bush that produced optimum switches and cut a bundle, and them place said bundle on back dash of car for the remainder of the trip.

Wes
9/19/2014 10:59:26 AM EDT
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When my kids were little and needed discipline, I had to be sure not to do it when I was still mad as hell. Maybe that's why you send the kid out for the switch, give yourself a little cooling off period.

the guy who switched that little kid was very angry.

9/19/2014 11:00:03 AM EDT
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As a Mississippi boy, I can tell you a switching or belting was the biggest play in the parents playbook.

I rarely fell victim because I didn't want to be switched, so yeah, I was a good child.

Shitty brat children nowadays join the FSA, quite frankly. Interesting poll, I wonder how many of those on disability got properly disciplined as a child.
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