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9/18/2014 11:04:19 AM EDT
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/09/how-gangs-took-over-prisons/379330/

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9/18/2014 11:27:26 AM EDT
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9/18/2014 11:28:37 AM EDT
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Prison islands look better all the time.
9/18/2014 11:29:32 AM EDT
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Note to self:  Don't get sentenced to prison.
9/18/2014 11:30:26 AM EDT
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Love that movie.
9/18/2014 11:30:44 AM EDT
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Has been my policy so far
9/18/2014 11:31:06 AM EDT
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I could stop a prison gang in it's tracks if I were a prison administrator, but then I'd get sued for violating the little darlings' rights as a result.  And that's the problem.  The system is rigged in favor of criminals.  This should surprise no one who has ever dealt with the so-called justice system.



 
9/18/2014 11:32:04 AM EDT
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9/18/2014 11:33:36 AM EDT
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The gangs took over when the government made prisons stop dealing with crooks in a way they understand.
9/18/2014 11:59:46 AM EDT
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Maybe it's because I'm just now watching sons of anarchy, but I found that to be pretty interesting. I'm going to try to find that book they mentioned.
9/18/2014 12:04:44 PM EDT
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Prison gangs keep the prisoners divided.

Divided prisoners can't band together and take over the prison.
9/18/2014 12:20:56 PM EDT
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It seems like it would be so much easier to do your time like the old-timers. Mind your business and behave. I'd use the time to read every book I could get my hands on. Hopefully most of us will never have the misfortune to find out what it's like.  
9/18/2014 12:22:09 PM EDT
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Small single or two person cells that you almost never get to leave also keep prisoners divided
9/18/2014 12:23:10 PM EDT
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Great.  The best character is the inmate who runs the kitchen.  That dude cracks me up.

 
9/18/2014 12:29:41 PM EDT
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Pity the poor guy whose bar of soap is the size and shape of a Samsung Galaxy Note
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LOL
9/18/2014 12:31:51 PM EDT
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Guilty pleasure.
9/18/2014 12:59:18 PM EDT
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What movie is that?


 
9/18/2014 1:03:03 PM EDT
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9/18/2014 1:03:17 PM EDT
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Interesting read.
9/18/2014 1:11:33 PM EDT
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Great argument for deploying the neutron bomb.

9/18/2014 1:19:54 PM EDT
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9/18/2014 1:21:18 PM EDT
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ETA:  Why don't prisons use cell jammers?  "The devil you know" or something?  Or are they monitoring all cell communications?
9/18/2014 1:21:52 PM EDT
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9/18/2014 1:28:15 PM EDT
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... I don't understand the point of the article... It only barely touches on the subject (how gangs taking over prisons)  and seems to be the same fluff journo piece one expects from Dateline or 60 minutes.
9/18/2014 1:33:15 PM EDT
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I wonder if gangs rotate specific members through arrest/incarceration to control activity inside prisons. Seems like they would need to keep a current management team inside and rotate trained members back onto the street, kind of a leadership mentoring system.
9/18/2014 1:36:37 PM EDT
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I could see that with underlings, but you need to keep a core of leadership in the prison to maintain continuity/enforcement, else you get a leadership vacuum and the gang falls apart (See Black Guerilla)
9/18/2014 1:37:05 PM EDT
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As much as I love "Blood in, Blood out", "American Me" is the better movie.

"Pie Face had left me only one choice - just a strength of a gesture. A thought with no voice." -Santana
9/18/2014 1:37:28 PM EDT
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let them ALL out at once EVERYWHERE
what ...it  ed be like PURGE
9/18/2014 1:52:48 PM EDT
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Patience grasshopper, it's called Incrementalism for a reason.
9/18/2014 1:56:41 PM EDT
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I could never go to prison, just for the fact at how much stuff you are required to keep in your anus.

9/18/2014 2:00:21 PM EDT
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Yea, it`s like high school. Here`s my plan. Day one you go in your cell alone, that is where you stay until your release date, the only thing that ever go`s into your cell is bread and water. Any lip and you get a ice cold fire hose, until you don`t have a problem anymore.



This is just for the non violent. The rapists, killers, etc, go straight to the firing squad. Let the rehabilitation begin!
9/18/2014 2:09:05 PM EDT
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This is just for the non violent. The rapists, killers, etc, go straight to the firing squad. Let the rehabilitation begin!




 
What do you get for an eleven-round magazine?
9/18/2014 2:10:25 PM EDT
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Yea, it`s like high school. Here`s my plan. Day one you go in your cell alone, that is where you stay until your release date, the only thing that ever go`s into your cell is bread and water. Any lip and you get a ice cold fire hose, until you don`t have a problem anymore.



This is just for the non violent. The rapists, killers, etc, go straight to the firing squad. Let the rehabilitation begin!


 
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Loved tenderly.



 
9/18/2014 2:14:20 PM EDT
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I could stop a prison gang in it's tracks if I were a prison administrator, but then I'd get sued for violating the little darlings' rights as a result.  And that's the problem.  The system is rigged in favor of criminals.  This should surprise no one who has ever dealt with the so-called justice system.
 
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I could stop a prison gang in it's tracks if I were a prison administrator, but then I'd get sued for violating the little darlings' rights as a result.  And that's the problem.  The system is rigged in favor of criminals.  This should surprise no one who has ever dealt with the so-called justice system.
 


I'm curious. How do you think you would stop the gangs in their tracks?
9/18/2014 2:17:07 PM EDT
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Learn something new everyday ...

Because he is a gentleman, Skarbek waited until we’d finished our burgers to illustrate some of that ingenuity. “How can you tell what type of cellphone an inmate uses,” he asked, “based on what’s in his cell?” He let me think for about two seconds before cheerily giving me the answer: you examine the bar of soap on the prisoner’s sink. The safest place for an inmate to store anything is in his rectum, and to keep the orifice supple and sized for the (contraband) phone, inmates have been known to whittle their bars of soap and tuck them away as a placeholder while their phones are in use. So a short and stubby bar means a durable old dumbphone; broad and flat means a BlackBerry or an iPhone. Pity the poor guy whose bar of soap is the size and shape of a Samsung Galaxy Note.
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9/18/2014 2:27:20 PM EDT
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This. Went the name was changed from prisons to correction facilities, the mindset changed. Compassionate care is not something they understand.  They see it as weakness.  Back to prisons, solitary confinement and silence.  No talking.
9/18/2014 2:29:50 PM EDT
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I could stop a prison gang in it's tracks if I were a prison administrator, but then I'd get sued for violating the little darlings' rights as a result.  And that's the problem.  The system is rigged in favor of criminals.  This should surprise no one who has ever dealt with the so-called justice system.
 
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I could stop a prison gang in it's tracks if I were a prison administrator, but then I'd get sued for violating the little darlings' rights as a result.  And that's the problem.  The system is rigged in favor of criminals.  This should surprise no one who has ever dealt with the so-called justice system.
 


Right. Unless you plan on killing them, nothing will stop them. They are more evil and violent than you, therefore they have the advantage.

Most of the gang leaders have been in solitary for years and it barely slowed them down.
9/18/2014 2:31:59 PM EDT
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It was the courts via the constitution.
9/18/2014 2:34:10 PM EDT
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Finally!  Sheesh, I had that old sigline well beyond its humor expiration date.
9/18/2014 2:37:57 PM EDT
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Yea, it`s like high school. Here`s my plan. Day one you go in your cell alone, that is where you stay until your release date, the only thing that ever go`s into your cell is bread and water. Any lip and you get a ice cold fire hose, until you don`t have a problem anymore.









This is just for the non violent. The rapists, killers, etc, go straight to the firing squad. Let the rehabilitation begin!




 


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I got a trustee slot for you. Might have to push a broom, and take some ridicule for not going down fighting when the gestapo came for your magazines though. Unless of course you stole said magazine, in that case, enjoy your bread, water, and solitude.
 
9/18/2014 2:50:28 PM EDT
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Trying not to.
9/18/2014 2:51:49 PM EDT
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(Since that presentation, I have found it impossible to look at a picture of Iacocca without imagining him stuffing his cheeks and rectum with razor blades.)






ETA:  Why don't prisons use cell jammers?  "The devil you know" or something?  Or are they monitoring all cell communications?
It's illegal to jam radio frequencies.

 
9/18/2014 2:51:52 PM EDT
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Yep.  Works fine from here.


9/18/2014 2:59:48 PM EDT
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ETA:  Why don't prisons use cell jammers?  "The devil you know" or something?  Or are they monitoring all cell communications?
It's illegal to jam radio frequencies.  



Should be pretty easy to identify where they are, though - as soon as they get turned on.  It's just a matter of prioritizing the funding.
9/18/2014 3:04:34 PM EDT
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Finally!  Sheesh, I had that old sigline well beyond its humor expiration date.
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Finally!  Sheesh, I had that old sigline well beyond its humor expiration date.



Also, if the gang member selling cell phones comes to you, pick a small flip phone.
9/18/2014 3:21:13 PM EDT
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Interesting.
9/18/2014 3:31:51 PM EDT
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Do white collar crimes and go club fed
9/18/2014 3:57:27 PM EDT
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9/18/2014 4:05:45 PM EDT
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Interesting article.  I suspect the cons have always controlled the prison on a certain level.  They have all the time in the world and out number the guards 100 to 1.
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You should be used to it by now.


Just kidding!!
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