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9/7/2014 4:27:10 PM EDT
Had a Tassimo machine and it was meh.

Have a Bodum coffee press. It"s ok but we tend to buy pre-ground coffee and can be hit and miss.

Tried coffee that was freshly ground by a friend and then brewed in a stove top coffee maker.......it was really nice.

He tried to explain about the size of the grind, the freshness of the beans, that a mill grinder of burr grinder is better than a blade grinder, and that a stove top brewer is his personal favourite.

Unfortunately we had enjoyed an afternoon out with the chaps at our very fine local quaffing establishments being served fine locally brewed ales by buxom ladies of notable beauty and class.

This means I can't remember much else other than supping some nice coffee, and only disjointed snippets as to why is was so much better than nescafe instant.

I now wish to reproduce that coffee experience, but my friend has buggered off to the North Sea on an oil rig for the next six weeks.

So, what do I need and how do I do it?

What grinder is good?

What coffee pot/brewer is good?

Thanks in advance for any advice and guidance.

9/7/2014 4:30:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Burr grinder
Coarse grind

French press.  Used to use the Bodum but found one at Ikea that we like better.

That's a good cup of Joe.

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9/7/2014 4:47:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a TRU burr grinder. Very even grind, adjustable grind and amount, auto shutoff, about $40.

I grind the beans, put them in a stainless steel double wall pot, and pour in boiling water.

I let it steep (just like tea) for 4-8 minutes, giving it a gentle stir every minute or so.

I pour it out through a metal screen filter into the cup, and add Splenda and heavy cream.



Finding the type of beans and the type of roast is most of the issue. The grounds set how good the coffee can be, and the method determines how much of that flavor you get.
9/7/2014 4:52:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks chaps.

So definitely a burr grinder to go on the shopping list.

Any particular type of stove top brewer that is recommended, or is it unnecessary?   I do prefer to have my coffee hot and I find it looses some of it's heat quite quickly in the normal press cafitieres.

The advice is much appreciated.
9/7/2014 4:53:29 PM EDT
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You can buy the beans and grind them at grocery stores but the fresher the roast and fresher the grind the better.  Grind for the type of machine you are using.  Grind fine for espresso machine or drip.
Cheap espresso machine will work.  Put grinds in container then open valve and fill water reservoir.  Turn on the heat and it will go through the coffee as soon as it is hot enough.
I've even used a stove top/open fire machine that you can use camping and got it to come out great.

DO NOT turn on water-heat and heat water before opening valve to go through coffee.  You want the steam to be just hot enough and any thing hotter scalds the beans.
Add hot water to taste and heat it up with steam from the frothing nozzle to suit you.
This is what I figured out after a young woman serving me coffee at Espresso Royal in Manhattan KS gave me a bitter cup and I said there was something wrong.
She was using a machine over a thousand dollars and still got the water too hot.
I find I can take espresso made like this and pour it over ice and it still tastes good.  Folgers on ice tastes like crap so you can pretty much figure iced coffee with no cream or sugar will tell you if your base material is good or not.
9/7/2014 4:54:39 PM EDT
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Get a moka pot

9/7/2014 4:57:03 PM EDT
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You can buy the beans and grind them at grocery stores but the fresher the roast and fresher the grind the better.  Grind for the type of machine you are using.  Grind fine for espresso machine or drip.
Cheap espresso machine will work.  Put grinds in container then open valve and fill water reservoir.  Turn on the heat and it will go through the coffee as soon as it is hot enough.
I've even used a stove top/open fire machine that you can use camping and got it to come out great.

DO NOT turn on water-heat and heat water before opening valve to go through coffee.  You want the steam to be just hot enough and any thing hotter scalds the beans.
Add hot water to taste and heat it up with steam from the frothing nozzle to suit you.
This is what I figured out after a young woman serving me coffee at Espresso Royal in Manhattan KS gave me a bitter cup and I said there was something wrong.
She was using a machine over a thousand dollars and still got the water too hot.
I find I can take espresso made like this and pour it over ice and it still tastes good.  Folgers on ice tastes like crap so you can pretty much figure iced coffee with no cream or sugar will tell you if your base material is good or not.
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Thanks.  Good info.
9/7/2014 4:59:33 PM EDT
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OP, try this.
Cold water in regular cooking pot.  Add fresh ground coffee, heat until slow boil
Pour through strainer

The way grandpaw used to make it.
Except his wasn't fresh ground
9/7/2014 4:59:43 PM EDT
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That was the sort of thing he used.  Will have a look around.  Is there anything I should look for in terms of quality, material etc?
9/7/2014 5:01:09 PM EDT
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Pour through strainer

The way grandpaw used to make it.
Except his wasn't fresh ground
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Might just do that

Need a grinder first - got to find a good one but want a hand operated portable rather than electric power one at tho stage as it is to be use when camping or out in the field.
9/7/2014 5:03:22 PM EDT
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That was the sort of thing he used.  Will have a look around.  Is there anything I should look for in terms of quality, material etc?
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That was the sort of thing he used.  Will have a look around.  Is there anything I should look for in terms of quality, material etc?


Any place offering Spanish or itslian specialty stuff will have it.  I buy cheap ones and toss them every couple of years.
My parents did the opposite as we were growing up.  More expensive italian made one and they just replaced the ring seal every so often.  

Here I can get the. Cheap at Mexican super markets   You could get one at IKEA
Or go amazon
9/7/2014 5:09:19 PM EDT
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Might just do that

Need a grinder first - got to find a good one but want a hand operated portable rather than electric power one at tho stage as it is to be use when camping or out in the field.
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OP, try this.
Cold water in regular cooking pot.  Add fresh ground coffee, heat until slow boil
Pour through strainer

The way grandpaw used to make it.
Except his wasn't fresh ground



Might just do that

Need a grinder first - got to find a good one but want a hand operated portable rather than electric power one at tho stage as it is to be use when camping or out in the field.


One of my jobs on a farm in the dom rep was grinding bags of coffee
Builds muscles.

For a moka pot, fine ground. But not essential

9/7/2014 5:12:09 PM EDT
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IME, the grinder is irrelevant, unless you get a really crappy one or are a retard and cannot figure out how to pulse the grinder you have to prevent the beans getting too hot.



That said, I have a very nice burr grinder that I bought at a garage sale nearly 20 years ago for $10:









I use it every morning when I am just making coffee for myself (the misses drinks green tea by the gallon), it works great, and grinding my beans every morning comprises my morning exercise.




When I have company, I grind my beans in an electric spice mill. I pulse it, like any sane human does, and the beans never even approach getting hot enough to affect their flavor. If I brew them in the Bialetti, no human could detect that the beans were ground in an electric mill versus a burr mill. No one.




Then, I brew my coffee in a Bialetti stove-top "espresso" maker:













The Bialetti is the indispensable link in the chain, IMO, not the grinder (unless you are a retard and just mash down on the grind button until the beans are ruined).
9/7/2014 5:38:20 PM EDT
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One of my jobs on a farm in the dom rep was grinding bags of coffee
Builds muscles.

For a moka pot, fine ground. But not essential

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OP, try this.
Cold water in regular cooking pot.  Add fresh ground coffee, heat until slow boil
Pour through strainer

The way grandpaw used to make it.
Except his wasn't fresh ground



Might just do that

Need a grinder first - got to find a good one but want a hand operated portable rather than electric power one at tho stage as it is to be use when camping or out in the field.


One of my jobs on a farm in the dom rep was grinding bags of coffee
Builds muscles.

For a moka pot, fine ground. But not essential



Thanks for the info Evan.
9/7/2014 5:41:57 PM EDT
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IME, the grinder is irrelevant, unless you get a really crappy one or are a retard and cannot figure out how to pulse the grinder you have to prevent the beans getting too hot.

That said, I have a very nice burr grinder that I bought at a garage sale nearly 20 years ago for $10:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t2Ekd6JAbOg/TQnMfSvjWPI/AAAAAAAAFeU/ZBSMqogGh0I/s1600/Zassenhaus_Coffee_Grinder.jpg


I use it every morning when I am just making coffee for myself (the misses drinks green tea by the gallon), it works great, and grinding my beans every morning comprises my morning exercise.

When I have company, I grind my beans in an electric spice mill. I pulse it, like any sane human does, and the beans never even approach getting hot enough to affect their flavor. If I brew them in the Bialetti, no human could detect that the beans were ground in an electric mill versus a burr mill. No one.

Then, I brew my coffee in a Bialetti stove-top "espresso" maker:

http://www.operatorchan.org/s/src/140040445233.png



The Bialetti is the indispensable link in the chain, IMO, not the grinder (unless you are a retard and just mash down on the grind button until the beans are ruined).

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Great info.  Pulse the grind is a new one on me.

i was looking at the Bialetti.  Don't know enough about them to know if they are worth the money, also saw they did different sizes.  What size would you recommend?  Want something that will brew enough for 4 people
9/7/2014 5:58:34 PM EDT
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Great info.  Pulse the grind is a new one on me.



i was looking at the Bialetti.  Don't know enough about them to know if they are worth the money, also saw they did different sizes.  What size would you recommend?  Want something that will brew enough for 4 people
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IME, the grinder is irrelevant, unless you get a really crappy one or are a retard and cannot figure out how to pulse the grinder you have to prevent the beans getting too hot.



That said, I have a very nice burr grinder that I bought at a garage sale nearly 20 years ago for $10:



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t2Ekd6JAbOg/TQnMfSvjWPI/AAAAAAAAFeU/ZBSMqogGh0I/s1600/Zassenhaus_Coffee_Grinder.jpg





I use it every morning when I am just making coffee for myself (the misses drinks green tea by the gallon), it works great, and grinding my beans every morning comprises my morning exercise.



When I have company, I grind my beans in an electric spice mill. I pulse it, like any sane human does, and the beans never even approach getting hot enough to affect their flavor. If I brew them in the Bialetti, no human could detect that the beans were ground in an electric mill versus a burr mill. No one.



Then, I brew my coffee in a Bialetti stove-top "espresso" maker:



http://www.operatorchan.org/s/src/140040445233.png
The Bialetti is the indispensable link in the chain, IMO, not the grinder (unless you are a retard and just mash down on the grind button until the beans are ruined).







Great info.  Pulse the grind is a new one on me.



i was looking at the Bialetti.  Don't know enough about them to know if they are worth the money, also saw they did different sizes.  What size would you recommend?  Want something that will brew enough for 4 people
Pulse is all that's necessary with a spice grinder. Pulse just enough to get to grounds the size of fine sand, such as casting sand.

 



I am an American, so IMO, none of the Bialettis is large enough for coffee for 4 people. We are gluttons, as you know. The largest Bialetti is enough for 2, IMO. Asd I said, we are gluttons.
9/7/2014 6:00:19 PM EDT
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Chemex.

Or, if you're lazy like me, Keurig.
9/7/2014 6:14:32 PM EDT
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For Gods sake whatever you do, use enough coffee!!!!!! Most people skimp on the coffee thinking it won't make it bitter, but just the opposite happens when too much water starts drawing out too much of the acid in the beans. Start with 1Tbs of coffee (heaping), per 6oz of water. Adjust the amount and grind to get to what suits your tastes. We go a little more with "standard" coffees, and when we get a French roast, or other dark roast a little less.
9/7/2014 6:16:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Google technivorm
Go big or go home
9/7/2014 6:53:17 PM EDT
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Sweet Maria's you can see the options and learn more here.  They also sell excellent roasted coffee.
Coffees need different roasts to reveal their best qualities.  Coffee typically needs a couple of days to rest after roasting and is good for a couple of weeks after that if stored properly (dark air tight container at room temperature)  Most online gourmet coffees violate this rule, selling coffees that have been roasted months or even years prior to you receiving it, because of the expense of managing the process http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/coffee-list/roasted-coffee/sweet-maria-roasted-coffee-pairing-6865.html
Grind is very important to the method of preparing the coffee.  http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/encore-burr-mill-4587.html
The easiest way to make an excellent cup of coffee is a drip machine with thermal carafe.  http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/brewing/coffee-brewers/electric-brewers/bonavita-8-cup-coffee-maker-with-thermal-carafe.html
9/7/2014 6:57:07 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks All...really appreciate the info.

9/7/2014 6:58:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Colectivo

French Roast

AWESOME!!!

http://shop.colectivocoffee.com/pages/coffee/
9/7/2014 6:58:19 PM EDT
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I roast my own green beans from Sweet Marias, using a Hearthware I-Roast air roaster.  I grind them on a Rancilio Rocky grinder and brew that in either a Cory vacuum pot(s), Bodum 32 tasse French press, or a Bialetti 6 tasse Moka Express Moka stove top pot.

Chris
9/7/2014 7:03:35 PM EDT
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I have a home espresso machine and burr grinder so let me throw in here. The quality of beans are important of course but how fresh they are is just as important. Ideally, you want beans that were roasted less than 10 days ago and grind on demand to ensure peak freshness.

I do not roast my own beans but have toyed with it, still it's possibly to find good fresh beans for not much more than mast-produced ground coffee. There's a number of places online, Whole Foods (if you have those,) and little micro-roasters shops. I get my beans at my local Costco, they have a roaster in house under the 'Seattle label,' not the best stuff but for  $4.99 per pound it's good enough for me.

I may break down and start roasting my own, not sure it's cheaper but you can roast and blend to your liking.

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9/7/2014 7:17:54 PM EDT
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Pulse is all that's necessary with a spice grinder. Pulse just enough to get to grounds the size of fine sand, such as casting sand.  

I am an American, so IMO, none of the Bialettis is large enough for coffee for 4 people. We are gluttons, as you know. The largest Bialetti is enough for 2, IMO. Asd I said, we are gluttons.
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IME, the grinder is irrelevant, unless you get a really crappy one or are a retard and cannot figure out how to pulse the grinder you have to prevent the beans getting too hot.

That said, I have a very nice burr grinder that I bought at a garage sale nearly 20 years ago for $10:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t2Ekd6JAbOg/TQnMfSvjWPI/AAAAAAAAFeU/ZBSMqogGh0I/s1600/Zassenhaus_Coffee_Grinder.jpg


I use it every morning when I am just making coffee for myself (the misses drinks green tea by the gallon), it works great, and grinding my beans every morning comprises my morning exercise.

When I have company, I grind my beans in an electric spice mill. I pulse it, like any sane human does, and the beans never even approach getting hot enough to affect their flavor. If I brew them in the Bialetti, no human could detect that the beans were ground in an electric mill versus a burr mill. No one.

Then, I brew my coffee in a Bialetti stove-top "espresso" maker:

http://www.operatorchan.org/s/src/140040445233.png



The Bialetti is the indispensable link in the chain, IMO, not the grinder (unless you are a retard and just mash down on the grind button until the beans are ruined).



Great info.  Pulse the grind is a new one on me.

i was looking at the Bialetti.  Don't know enough about them to know if they are worth the money, also saw they did different sizes.  What size would you recommend?  Want something that will brew enough for 4 people
Pulse is all that's necessary with a spice grinder. Pulse just enough to get to grounds the size of fine sand, such as casting sand.  

I am an American, so IMO, none of the Bialettis is large enough for coffee for 4 people. We are gluttons, as you know. The largest Bialetti is enough for 2, IMO. Asd I said, we are gluttons.


Get the big family size bialetti
It will be enough for four Europeans
9/7/2014 7:24:39 PM EDT
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Just stick to the 2 rule for coffee.

Green coffee beans are good for 2 years
Roasted coffee is good for 2 weeks
Ground coffee is good for 2 days

Coffee is drinkable past the 2 rule its just not as good.

Want to know what a $750 cup of coffee taste like?

Technivorm Moccamaster $300
Behmor 1600 Plus Home Coffee Roaster $370
Capresso 560 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder $90

I can not add up all the $ i spent on the quest for the best coffee i could make at home but in the end it was worth it.
9/8/2014 11:20:16 AM EDT
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Just stick to the 2 rule for coffee.



Green coffee beans are good for 2 years

Roasted coffee is good for 2 weeks

Ground coffee is good for 2 days



Coffee is drinkable past the 2 rule its just not as good.



Want to know what a $750 cup of coffee taste like?



Technivorm Moccamaster $300

Behmor 1600 Plus Home Coffee Roaster $370

Capresso 560 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder $90



I can not add up all the $ i spent on the quest for the best coffee i could make at home but in the end it was worth it.
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Here in Seattle, folks line up at the espresso shops and trailers and carts and py $4-6 per day for their coffee. Your return on the above investment was not as long as you think, compared to buying it at $4-6 per day.

 
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Just stick to the 2 rule for coffee.

Green coffee beans are good for 2 years
Roasted coffee is good for 2 weeks
Ground coffee is good for 2 days

Coffee is drinkable past the 2 rule its just not as good.

Want to know what a $750 cup of coffee taste like?

Technivorm Moccamaster $300
Behmor 1600 Plus Home Coffee Roaster $370
Capresso 560 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder $90

I can not add up all the $ i spent on the quest for the best coffee i could make at home but in the end it was worth it.
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Coffee-dedication - you has it.

I may have to rethink my budget on this matter.  If you are doing coffee it has to be done right, I guess.
9/8/2014 11:29:31 AM EDT
[#28]
I feel like I should hold my pinky out while drinking my coffee after reading this thread.  

I might try one of these fancy methods, I like my coffee.
9/8/2014 11:40:23 AM EDT
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I have a technivorm brewer and breville smartgrinder.  I have yet to buy a roaster but until then this is about the best coffee I can muster.

I think the grinder has been the biggest contributor to the quality of the brew.  I used a blade grinder in the past but it was a hassle and created a very uneven grind, ranging from micro particulate dust to coarse little pebbles.  The breville unit had performed very well.
9/8/2014 11:47:03 AM EDT
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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!

9/8/2014 1:19:03 PM EDT
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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!

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I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.
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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!




I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.


I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.

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I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!




I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.


I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.



They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.
If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.

The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.
Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.


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They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.
If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.

The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.
Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.


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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!




I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.


I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.



They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.
If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.

The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.
Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.





Thanks again to all of you.  I am reading and learning a lot.  Much appreciated.

It seems the grinder is the real key here and I need to look at investing in something good quality.   I think I will look to get a decent quality electric one at home and have a portable one for when i am out in the field.
9/8/2014 6:55:42 PM EDT
[#35]
I use a stove top espresso maker,  electric grinder and coffee's from this outfit.  So far "Midnight Oil" is my favorite and it is truly an oily coffee.  Lots of flavor.

http://www.sweetwaterorganiccoffee.com/
9/8/2014 7:17:13 PM EDT
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The pre-ground coffee is too fine to use in a French press. You want a coarser grind.

then:

- Don't bring the water to a full boil. 1905 degrees or so.

- Steep your grounds about four minutes

- After pressing, pour the coffee into a thermal carafe. DON'T leave it sitting on the grounds. It will over extract and become bitter.
9/8/2014 7:23:56 PM EDT
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I make the best coffee of anyone I know. I buy green coffee beans (usually sumatra and guatamala) and roast them myself (dark - well into second crack), rest the beans for a couple days after roasting, then a medium grind in a burr grinder as needed (don't pre-grind way ahead of time). Then I toss the grinds in Mr Coffee type coffee maker. The coffee maker is the least important part here, most important is getting green beans and learning to roast them yourself, huge difference in freshly roasted beans versus  beans sitting in a bag/can for weeks/months/years.


9/8/2014 7:24:55 PM EDT
[#38]
I roast my own coffee and have tried a few methods of brewing, the grind actually made the most difference for me.

I have a baratza encore grinder which is pretty much the minimum recommended if you are going to get serious about coffee.

9/8/2014 7:33:47 PM EDT
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Non-capsule system brews up to 9 different individual cup sizes (including 3 travel mug sizes) and up to a 12 Cup carafe
•7 adjustable strength and 5 adjustable flavor settings in single cup mode allow you to find the perfect match to your individual taste
•Brew IQ doses the right amount of coffee with the right amount of water while heating water to the optimum temperature
•0.5 lb bean hopper and integrated burr grinder
•Carafe warming plate with auto shut-off after 2 hours


Breville

I've had this one for almost 2 years.  It works great for me but I only make 6 cups at a time.  Read the reviews on Amazon.
9/8/2014 7:56:31 PM EDT
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Burr grinder is fairly important.  I use this, did not pay that much though.  Ive had if forever


















I need to look into roasting my own




This thread did get me to order one of the 6 cup Moka pots.  Will give that a shot and compare it to the press.

 
9/8/2014 8:19:09 PM EDT
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They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.

If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.



The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.

Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.





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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?



You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  



Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.



No substitutes!









I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.




I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.



Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.







They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.

If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.



The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.

Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.





LOL, no.

 



Starbucks is a "style" of coffee roasting. If you like it, you like it. If you do not, you do not.  Starbucks coffee is 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee. That is simply naked truth.




If you disagree you likely think McDonalds has "good" coffee.




9/8/2014 8:24:42 PM EDT
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LOL, no.  

Starbucks is a "style" of coffee roasting. If you like it, you like it. If you do not, you do not.  Starbucks coffee is 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee. That is simply naked truth.

If you disagree you likely think McDonalds has "good" coffee.


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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!




I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.


I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.



They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.
If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.

The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.
Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.


LOL, no.  

Starbucks is a "style" of coffee roasting. If you like it, you like it. If you do not, you do not.  Starbucks coffee is 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee. That is simply naked truth.

If you disagree you likely think McDonalds has "good" coffee.




Plain black starbucks coffee is terrible. Its terrible when you buy it at the store and its terrible when you buy the beans They over roast every thing on the menu. I really cant believe people pay for that shit.
9/8/2014 8:48:30 PM EDT
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LOL, no.  

Starbucks is a "style" of coffee roasting. If you like it, you like it. If you do not, you do not.  Starbucks coffee is 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee. That is simply naked truth.

If you disagree you likely think McDonalds has "good" coffee.


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What kind of half assed advice is being bandied about in this thread?

You need a civet cat and a large supply of coffee cherries.  

Don't try substituting a civet cat for some other species, like a lemur or a badger.

No substitutes!




I tried grinding and boiling a cat.  It just tasted like Starbucks.


I have no idea why "Charbucks" is as popular as it is.  I like bold roasts (Italian, French) but Starbucks puts their roasters on the Chernobyl setting.

Seems a waste of perfectly good beans to me.



They over roast them to cover up for having substandard beans.
If you burn the crap out of them anyone that would drink that crap don't know any better.

The best advice i can give the OP get a good grinder to start with.
Find a shop that dose fresh roasting "some grocery stores have fairly fresh roasted beans" you don't want some beans that have been sitting for weeks.


LOL, no.  

Starbucks is a "style" of coffee roasting. If you like it, you like it. If you do not, you do not.  Starbucks coffee is 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee. That is simply naked truth.

If you disagree you likely think McDonalds has "good" coffee.




I like Starbucks and despise McDonald's coffee.   However Starbucks coffee is NOT 100 percent better than 99 percent of US coffee.
9/8/2014 8:55:15 PM EDT
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I like this better than french press.

9/8/2014 10:43:30 PM EDT
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I have never been a fan of coffee.  I started drinking it this winter, in order to have something with breakfast that would get me ready for lifting, and not be sweet.  I found the least unpleasant coffee to come from an Aeropress, with filtered water.  Similar to the pour-over method, you really get to tweak temperature, but with the added bonus of adjusting brew time, and the ability to brew under some pressure.  For grinding, I use a cheap Hario burr grinder, attached to an electric drill.  Setting it isn't the easiest, but once I got the grind I wanted, I haven't had to touch it.

As for the beans, I find something in the medium, to full-city roast to be the most pleasing.  It is the point that, I think, coffee tastes the most like it smells.  Too dark, and the flavor seems ashy, and bitter, and I get less caffeine.  To light, and it is somewhat acidic, and almost has a plant-like flavor.
9/9/2014 6:26:06 AM EDT
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I have never been a fan of coffee.  I started drinking it this winter, in order to have something with breakfast that would get me ready for lifting, and not be sweet.  I found the least unpleasant coffee to come from an Aeropress, with filtered water.  Similar to the pour-over method, you really get to tweak temperature, but with the added bonus of adjusting brew time, and the ability to brew under some pressure.  For grinding, I use a cheap Hario burr grinder, attached to an electric drill.  Setting it isn't the easiest, but once I got the grind I wanted, I haven't had to touch it.

As for the beans, I find something in the medium, to full-city roast to be the most pleasing.  It is the point that, I think, coffee tastes the most like it smells.  Too dark, and the flavor seems ashy, and bitter, and I get less caffeine.  To light, and it is somewhat acidic, and almost has a plant-like flavor.
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Yep this is why i roast my own so i can tailor the roast to what i like.
9/9/2014 6:35:38 AM EDT
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I am looking for a Turkish coffee pot.   I will then have mostly all of the major coffee making methods.

std American drip
Italian Moka
Vietnamese
French press
Krups espresso

I also want to get a stovetop vacuum method pot.

I usually use preground (kept in the fridge). The cool thing is to use the different methods to find where it tastes best.
9/9/2014 3:03:40 PM EDT
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I am looking for a Turkish coffee pot.   I will then have mostly all of the major coffee making methods.

std American drip
Italian Moka
Vietnamese
French press
Krups espresso

I also want to get a stovetop vacuum method pot.

I usually use preground (kept in the fridge). The cool thing is to use the different methods to find where it tastes best.
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I tried what you're doing and to tell you the truth i did not see a big difference in the coffee pots in how they improved taste.
Hell the wife took at least 8 coffeemakers to goodwill last year we had one of damn near every pot we could find. " i think we still have 6 different ones"

But i have not tried that vacuum stove top pot yet, let us know if you try it and how much it helps.
9/9/2014 3:52:03 PM EDT
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OP,all these replies are bullshit.  Go to Brazil, get a girlfriend who's parent live in the countryside.  Get girlfriends mom to go out in the garden and pick fresh coffee, and let her roast it, grind it and brew it.  Sit back and enjoy REAL coffee, anything else is just some hipster bullshit.  That is all...
9/9/2014 4:00:13 PM EDT
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