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9/7/2014 12:14:30 PM EDT
Pro tip: When assembling a short block on a stand, do not slip when you are installing the last nut on the last rod bearing cap and drop it deep within the block.

You may be forced to undo all of the work you did, down to pulling pistons, crank and cam to get it from it's hiding place between the cam and lifters.


That is all.
9/7/2014 12:18:26 PM EDT
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Ouch. Did you try one of those magnetic tools?
9/7/2014 12:18:34 PM EDT
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Engine stands usually have the ability to rotate..

Flip that bitch and shake it like an OD'ing hooker..
9/7/2014 12:18:48 PM EDT
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You don't have a magnet on a flexible rod?

Or those mechanic's fingers?
9/7/2014 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Pics of engine?
9/7/2014 12:19:56 PM EDT
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I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. If you work on motorized vehicles enough, shit like this happens.
9/7/2014 12:20:40 PM EDT
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Clean rags under whatever you are putting together can save many hours of cursing. Just remember to remove ALL of the rags before you button it up or the cursing part will just be delayed.
9/7/2014 12:21:47 PM EDT
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I have a better one

When rotating the assembly to check rocker to valve cover clearance don't forget the hydraulic lifters LIFT when they pump up with oil negating all your careful clearance testing.
9/7/2014 12:22:30 PM EDT
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Sounds like he is working on a cam in block engine, most of those are cast iron. Along with the crank and cam being iron as well. Good luck getting that magnet anywhere you want it to go.
9/7/2014 12:22:44 PM EDT
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Shoulda just run it. I'm sure it would have sorted itself out eventually.


9/7/2014 12:24:19 PM EDT
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Couldn't see where it ended up. Heard it clatter once when I flipped the stand and then it got caught between a lifter and the cam and wouldn't make any noise.

Found it once I got the crank out but couldn't get it out for fear of damaging a lifter/came lobe (it was pretty stuck, probably from flipping the block twice)
9/7/2014 12:25:19 PM EDT
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Foot Lbs/ 12 = Inch. Lbs

9/7/2014 12:27:50 PM EDT
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I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

9/7/2014 12:28:19 PM EDT
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That sucks OP.

I've been known to steal the wife's canister vacuum and fasten a length of gas line size hose to the nozzle with duct tape, so it can reach into tight spaces. It has saved me a lot of work on more than one occasion.
9/7/2014 12:28:37 PM EDT
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9/7/2014 12:30:07 PM EDT
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How do you know?
9/7/2014 12:30:57 PM EDT
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Sounds like he is working on a cam in block engine, most of those are cast iron. Along with the crank and cam being iron as well. Good luck getting that magnet anywhere you want it to go.
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Sounds like he is working on a cam in block engine, most of those are cast iron. Along with the crank and cam being iron as well. Good luck getting that magnet anywhere you want it to go.


Have you ever used one?

They have small polls, so the sideways pull is minimal. When something crosses the polls on the end, then it's really stuck.

Or you can use the grabber style with the push button and fingers that slide out of the tube.
9/7/2014 12:31:03 PM EDT
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I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. If you work on motorized vehicles enough, shit like this happens.
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I know. In the span of 10 minutes my emotions went like this:
9/7/2014 12:38:06 PM EDT
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I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. If you work on motorized vehicles enough, shit like this happens.


I know. In the span of 10 minutes my emotions went like this:





 
9/7/2014 12:41:17 PM EDT
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lighted flex camera, life saver. They are pretty cheap now, diameter of a pencil.
9/7/2014 12:42:12 PM EDT
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I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg
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Pics of engine?

I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg



That's hawt.
9/7/2014 12:43:03 PM EDT
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And make sure your "buddy" doesn't slip an extra fastener or four into your arrangement while it's torn down.

"God dammit!  I know I've got this bitch screwed together right!  Where the fuck did these come from"

Here's a posthumous FUCK YOU!!!! to my deceased best friend James that loved to pull shit like that. I miss the hell out of you, you Fuckin Asshole.  You left us way too soon.

We had lots of cars to fix, fish to catch, deer to kill, and, goddamn dude....  the laughs.
9/7/2014 12:46:45 PM EDT
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Yep, those are great.

But when handling parts in a critical situation like that, you always need to take your time and treat it like you were a doctor performing heart surgery (no mistakes, period). It's better to take a little bit longer than to hurry and have a major screw-up, as the O.P. learned the hard way. It's kinda like speeding on the way to work to save two minutes, then getting a speeding ticket that costs you half an hour and $200.
9/7/2014 12:50:36 PM EDT
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or valve spring keepers into oil journals
9/7/2014 1:03:08 PM EDT
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Nothing is quite as relieving as hearing that bolt/nut/socket hit the ground after it slips out of your hand deep in the engine bay!
9/7/2014 1:08:53 PM EDT
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Sucks, all part of working on your own shit though.
9/7/2014 1:16:53 PM EDT
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sounds like an amateur tip to me
9/7/2014 1:20:24 PM EDT
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washers or nuts down intake runners.....I was tuning a Chrysler v-6 minivan once..and the #1 plug is extremely difficult to get to..and you end up doing it by feel.  Well, a stray nut from somewhere dropped perfectly into the plug hole....unbeknownst to me..got the plug in, buttoned every thing up...fired it up...and promptly put a zillion pieces of piston into the oil pan  Customer was cool about it...he got a low mileage junkyard engine out it.
9/7/2014 1:25:13 PM EDT
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Sounds like he is working on a cam in block engine, most of those are cast iron. Along with the crank and cam being iron as well. Good luck getting that magnet anywhere you want it to go.
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Ouch. Did you try one of those magnetic tools?


Sounds like he is working on a cam in block engine, most of those are cast iron. Along with the crank and cam being iron as well. Good luck getting that magnet anywhere you want it to go.

A shop vac and a piece of hose can work sometimes.
9/7/2014 1:26:20 PM EDT
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I just pick it up and shake it like a kid trying to get the last nickle out of a piggy bank.
9/7/2014 1:28:43 PM EDT
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 You can pick up a v8 long block and shake it?  You a bad mother fucker.
9/7/2014 1:36:50 PM EDT
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The usb ones are like twenty bucks



 
9/7/2014 1:43:34 PM EDT
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Interesting build
9/7/2014 1:47:26 PM EDT
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I found a Toyota radiator cap deep in the bowels of my engine compartment.
Have owned the truck for 10 years and never lost one. It has been riding around under there for over a decade somehow. Wasn't wedged in either.

Had to disassemble a newly built VW engine because I couldn't remember if I had pulled the rags out of the intake ports on the heads.
I had. Not too hard to do but just one of those "fuuuuuuuuuu" moments.
9/7/2014 1:58:31 PM EDT
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You're a ASE certified mechanic, I can tell.



You work at a dealership too.
 
9/7/2014 2:03:54 PM EDT
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And make sure your "buddy" doesn't slip an extra fastener or four into your arrangement while it's torn down.

"God dammit!  I know I've got this bitch screwed together right!  Where the fuck did these come from"

Here's a posthumous FUCK YOU!!!! to my deceased best friend James that loved to pull shit like that. I miss the hell out of you, you Fuckin Asshole.  You left us way too soon.

We had lots of cars to fix, fish to catch, deer to kill, and, goddamn dude....  the laughs.
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We had an instructor at MMI/Phoenix that was notorious for doing exactly that...


Dropping a valve spring retainer down the spark plug hole and then trying to fish it out with a magnet was always fun, too.
9/7/2014 2:08:20 PM EDT
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Have magnets, those finger tools, and NEVER rotate the assembly until the dropped object is found and removed!
9/7/2014 3:24:16 PM EDT
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You work at a dealership too.
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Shoulda just run it. I'm sure it would have sorted itself out eventually.
You're a ASE certified mechanic, I can tell.

You work at a dealership too.


Mech2007 started the customers Lexas LFA and it spit a piston rod out the block..

Technician A says - "HOLY SHIT!"

Technician B says - "OH MY FUCKING GOD!"

Who is correct?

-Technician A is correct
-Technician B is correct
-Both are correct
-God is correct
9/7/2014 3:35:26 PM EDT
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Mech2007 started the customers Lexas LFA and it spit a piston rod out the block..

Technician A says - "HOLY SHIT!"

Technician B says - "OH MY FUCKING GOD!"

Who is correct?

-Technician A is correct
-Technician B is correct
-Both are correct
-God is correct
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Shoulda just run it. I'm sure it would have sorted itself out eventually.
You're a ASE certified mechanic, I can tell.

You work at a dealership too.


Mech2007 started the customers Lexas LFA and it spit a piston rod out the block..

Technician A says - "HOLY SHIT!"

Technician B says - "OH MY FUCKING GOD!"

Who is correct?

-Technician A is correct
-Technician B is correct
-Both are correct
-God is correct


lmao...nailed the ASE exam questions...
9/7/2014 3:38:10 PM EDT
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The real kick in the nuts is when your done buttoning up the bottom end, pan is on and you roll it rightside up, you hear a "clunk" as something falls into the pan.
9/7/2014 4:18:33 PM EDT
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lmao...nailed the ASE exam questions...
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Shoulda just run it. I'm sure it would have sorted itself out eventually.
You're a ASE certified mechanic, I can tell.

You work at a dealership too.


Mech2007 started the customers Lexas LFA and it spit a piston rod out the block..

Technician A says - "HOLY SHIT!"

Technician B says - "OH MY FUCKING GOD!"

Who is correct?

-Technician A is correct
-Technician B is correct
-Both are correct
-God is correct


lmao...nailed the ASE exam questions...

9/7/2014 7:21:18 PM EDT
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I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg
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Pics of engine?

I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg


Yay Y-block!

OP, you gonna put some T-Bird valve covers on that?

If it were a Honda, you could just pick the whole thing up and shake it like a Polaroid.
9/7/2014 7:24:23 PM EDT
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I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg  
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Pics of engine?

I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg  



OOoooohhh...  Those old steel crank 292 truck motors were a wonderful thing to find when you wanted to build something larger than a 302 Windsor without using a 351W block.  Have the crank machined down to fit the Windsor block, add the right parts like small block Chevy pistons on small block Chrysler rods and start building a fun little engine.
9/7/2014 11:27:01 PM EDT
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Yay Y-block!

OP, you gonna put some T-Bird valve covers on that?

If it were a Honda, you could just pick the whole thing up and shake it like a Polaroid.
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Pics of engine?

I don't have any pics in its current state and it's covered up right now to keep dust out but here is an example picture.

Ford 292 V8 out of a '60 F250.

http://www.autoelf.com/shop/images/aefor292lb.jpg


Yay Y-block!

OP, you gonna put some T-Bird valve covers on that?

If it were a Honda, you could just pick the whole thing up and shake it like a Polaroid.

If I coukd get some valve covers like these in better shape I'd be all over it.