Posted: 1/22/2003 9:40:53 AM EDT
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The first part of the installation is complete. I have the pneumatics installed that will lift it off the floor and raise the plate glass from the top. I also have all the wiring complete with all the switches and the wired remote. Everything is working but I have run into a couple problems. I am running the system off a 7gal air tank rated for 125psi. I can only fill it to 80psi at the gas station and with a fill like that it doesn't last all that long, maybe 100 cycles. I really don't think a full fill would help all that much. I'd maybe get another 50 cycles out of it. So I am thinking of switching to CO2 which means I can use a smaller tank and get more cycles. I was thinking that a paintball tank would work but I need to get the co2 from around 800 psi down to 150. A paintball regulator would probably work for that but I need to be sure that I can get it down to 150 psi. I'm also not to happy with the amount of travel that these cylinders have (1/2"). So I am going to switch them out for cylinders with 1.5" of travel. Other than that I am going to take a break for a week or so before I start the next part. Future plans include lifting the side doors with a cylinders and adding another window and lights to the other side. I need to find a suitable hinge for the job. Something small but tough. Anyway, here are some pics of the case. [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00613.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00614.JPG[/img] The wired remote, controls 4 of the 8 valves along with the soft startup valve. [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00615.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00617.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00618.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00619.JPG[/img] What are all the switches for? Starting at the top. The top six control 4 80mm fans and 2 120mm fans. The panel has dual color LED's. Red for high speed, blue low speed, and off is off. Down to the next 4 switches. The first 2 control the 2 cold cathode lights. The next 2 control 2 more 80mm fans. The next 4 switches below that control the other four valves which are currenlty not being used. [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00620.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00621.JPG[/img] These are the air distribution blocks that I made. The one on the left is negative pressure and the one on the right is positive. [img]http://www.cheyennepaintball.com/images/case/DSC00622.JPG[/img] Thanks for everyones help on the wiring. I've learned allot! |
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How about a CO2 tank from a welding supply? They may have regulators to go with it. A little bigger than the paintball one so it would last longer. I have a Nitrogen tank and regulator that would do the trick so that is why I suggested the CO2 tank. A nitrogen tank has like 2500 psi in it when full and the regulator would take care of the lower pressure! Just a thought.[thinking] BigDozer66 |
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I mainly did it just for fun. PC mods are a big thing right now. I first started off with a window, fan control and lights. But I realized there was nothing setting mine apart from the crowd. So I figured hey I've never seen one with pneumatics I might as well do that. It actually turned into a much bigger project than I ever imagined. Also sucked up quite a bit of cash even though I picked most of the stuff up off ebay. As for airflow, I have more than I could ever need. Each 80mm fan that I have moves 67 cubic feet of air per minute and the 120mm fans move 94cfm each. I have a total of 8 80mm fans including those in the power supply and 2 120 mm fans. When I have them all running at full speed I have to wear socks because my feet get cold. Not to mention the fact that my wife is unable to hear the tv when they are going [:)] Before I added all the fans my mother board temp was around 109 degrees, with all fans running it sits around 83 degree's. The CPU ran at 119 degrees and now runs at 102. Can you make it hop like my homey's Chebby Impala? Not quite yet. I need to get some clevis mounts for the cylinders and then get a heavy piece of aluminum plate. Otherwise the case would just fall over and that would SUCK. Its been allot of fun, still have more work to do though. |
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Quoted: How about a CO2 tank from a welding supply? They may have regulators to go with it. A little bigger than the paintball one so it would last longer. I have a Nitrogen tank and regulator that would do the trick so that is why I suggested the CO2 tank. A nitrogen tank has like 2500 psi in it when full and the regulator would take care of the lower pressure! Just a thought.[thinking] BigDozer66 Thats a good idea, I will have to call them and see what they have. |
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Quoted: Well, it's... ummm... different. You must be another Maximum PC reader. A small portable air compressor will save you trips to the gas station. Any plans for liquid cooling? [;)] I dont think I have ever read Maximum PC. I'll have to check that out. Liquid cooling: I dont think I would be able to find the room in my case to do that. |
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You guys seen those 40-100 meg USB thingies that you can attach to your keychain there so small and you can just plug into a front panel USB port and use it like a floppy to tranfer things? Floppies REALLY need to go, I can't really think of a reason to have one anymore? |
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Quoted: No floppy drive? Even though they may be obsolete, I still find them very useful. I'm protesting! They should have come up with a cheap solution by now. I actually needed a floppy drive the other day but I refuse to install one. I took the disk to work and put the files onto an ftp so I could download them when I got home [:)] |
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Quoted: Nice job, schap! You posted this on hardforums yet? How do you like the Tip-Magnetic Driving fan? Hopefully I'll get a chance to start posting it tonight. I really like my Vantec CPU heatsink and fan. It keeps my XP 2000 processor relatively cool. I really like the idea of the Tip-Magnetic fans. This one is supposed to creat a cyclone of air just above the solid copper core. |
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Here I thought I was cool by installing two LED lit fans in my computer.... Liquid cooling is too much work. If I ever need to cool my computer that much I'll build a case to fit into one of those small refrigerators. That way I can keep the PC cool and keep the beer cool too. Quoted: Well, it's... ummm... different. You must be another Maximum PC reader. A small portable air compressor will save you trips to the gas station. Any plans for liquid cooling? [;)] |
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Quoted: Here I thought I was cool by installing two LED lit fans in my computer.... Liquid cooling is too much work. If I ever need to cool my computer that much I'll build a case to fit into one of those small refrigerators. That way I can keep the PC cool and keep the beer cool too. Quoted: Well, it's... ummm... different. You must be another Maximum PC reader. A small portable air compressor will save you trips to the gas station. Any plans for liquid cooling? [;)] I dont know.. Those clear fluid resevoirs filled with colored coolants look sweet. I would have to install it on the outside of the case though. |
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Quoted: Go SCUBA. You can almost any size tank for reasonable prices. Get an old reg off ebay. A first stage SCUBA reg will take the pressure from 3000 psi down to about 80psi I think. Can anyone verify this? I'd rather go that route because it would be much cleaner than CO2. |
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Quoted: How about a CO2 tank from a welding supply? They may have regulators to go with it. A little bigger than the paintball one so it would last longer. I have a Nitrogen tank and regulator that would do the trick so that is why I suggested the CO2 tank. A nitrogen tank has like 2500 psi in it when full and the regulator would take care of the lower pressure! Just a thought.[thinking] BigDozer66 YES! Get yourself a 20# Co2 cylinder and a welding regulator rated for at least 750 p.s.i. (the approximate head pressure of Co2). Then you can regulate the pressure as low as you like. I use a 20# CO2 and regulator as a portable air tool supply system. I don't have an air compressor (or room for one in my garage) so I use the CO2. The volume of the CO2 will be much greater (about 4 times IIRC without checking my fact book). I have used the same 20# CO2 cylinder to run air tools off and on for about three years now (mostly taking off tires and stubborn axle nuts, no real heavy use) so for your app, it'll probably last quite a while (unless you have a leak, then your lines will freeze before the cylinder runs out [;)] Of course, a 20# cylinder and regulator are quite bulky. You might be better off with the small hobby air compressor. |
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schapman43, check out [url=http://www.maximumpc.com/]Maximum PC online[/url]. You know how those car and truck magazines show "Reader's Rides"... well, Maximum PC has a monthly feature showing the "Rig of the Month." I think you should enter your PC rig and maybe you'll win something. This trend started out mild, like painting PC cases custom colors, then it went wild, like plexiglass side covers, blacklights inside the case, neon lights, fans, switches, LEDs, liquid cooling, and now... pneumatics! With the advent of the aluminum case, the sky's the limit. I think nightstalker is on the right track with the airbrush air compressor... unless you just LIKE going to the gas station to fill up your air tank. Or you could get several tanks for spares. Heck, I have 3 propane tanks that I rotate for grilling. Well, actually I have 2 good propane tanks. One of them has a bad valve and I'll probably take it out to the desert and shoot it for a nice pyrotechnics display, with the help of a little Tannerite. If you blow up any of your old computer stuff, please post pics. [BD] |
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Quoted: schapman43, check out [url=http://www.maximumpc.com/]Maximum PC online[/url]. You know how those car and truck magazines show "Reader's Rides"... well, Maximum PC has a monthly feature showing the "Rig of the Month." I think you should enter your PC rig and maybe you'll win something. This trend started out mild, like painting PC cases custom colors, then it went wild, like plexiglass side covers, blacklights inside the case, neon lights, fans, switches, LEDs, liquid cooling, and now... pneumatics! With the advent of the aluminum case, the sky's the limit. I think nightstalker is on the right track with the airbrush air compressor... unless you just LIKE going to the gas station to fill up your air tank. Or you could get several tanks for spares. Heck, I have 3 propane tanks that I rotate for grilling. Well, actually I have 2 good propane tanks. One of them has a bad valve and I'll probably take it out to the desert and shoot it for a nice pyrotechnics display, with the help of a little Tannerite. If you blow up any of your old computer stuff, please post pics. [BD] Thanks for the info. It looks like this months contest is for a patriotic pc. I'll have to keep and eye on the site though. I did enter my case into a contest at [url]www.evga.com[/url] so it will be interesting to see if I get any response on that. Scott |
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Affirmative on the SCUBA setup. A regulator first stage off ebay would do fine, especially if you go for the whole kit you get 4 hoses to connect to wherever you want + a gauge to put in the front :) . Tank's a bit on the big side though, but should last you for a good while in between refillings. Who here goes SCUBA diving regularly? I just got my Open Water cert and am damn happy about it : ) |
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I like one of the suggested themes for case modding prize of 1200 bucks on maximumPC.com - "keep and bear arms," or "barrel bombs and bottle rockets." Sounds like my kind of place! Thanks for the link. "Canadians are welcome to enter the contest, but Americans, don't let the Canadians beat us." |
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WOW, that is cool as hell looking! How much has it set you back to do only the mods, not buying the computer guts? What is overclocking exaclty? Is it easy to do? Are there web sites for newbies? Can I do it to my pentium 200 (I have a AST 9313, yes it's old but it still does what I need!) SorryOciffer |
| Scuba tanks can be a problem getting them filled. Many shops will only do so if you are dive certified with no exceptions. CO2 may be your best bet as it is cheap. Finally, paintball regulators will give you the psi you need. Many markers have LPRs (low pressure regulators). |
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Quoted: WOW, that is cool as hell looking! How much has it set you back to do only the mods, not buying the computer guts? What is overclocking exaclty? Is it easy to do? Are there web sites for newbies? Can I do it to my pentium 200 (I have a AST 9313, yes it's old but it still does what I need!) SorryOciffer The mods didnt cost all that much. Here is price list. $36 14 .5" travel bimba cylinders omly used 6 of them $24.95 SMC Soft startup/ filter/ bleed valve $40 SMC 8 Valve VQ series block. $17 7 Gal 125psi tank $20.64 10/32 5/32 touch air fittings $4.00 1/4 3/8 touch air fittings $13.00 5/32 tubing $27.50 5/16 tubing $47 3/8 tubing (all tubing had to be purchased in 100ft rolls that reall sucked) $24.95 24v Cherokeee power supply $3.00 Project box for switches $6.00 switches and LED $23.00 2 Aluminum 120mm fans $20.00 2 Aluminum 80mm fans $30.00 2 Blue Cold Cathodes $15.00 2 13"x13" pieces of plate glass $3.00 Small piece of plate glass for the top. $30.00 Stainless hardware, screws, washers etc $30.00 Dual LED fan controller. I do believe thats about all of it. I've put this together over a few months so its hard to keep track of every dollar I've spent. I picked up most of the pneumatic components off ebay so that saved me all kinds of money. From the factory the 6 cylinders alone would have cost $380. Overclocking is running a processor faster than the factory specs. Just do a search on google for pc mods or overclocking. You will find all kinds of stuff. |
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Quoted: ditch the Air, You need to put some De-Ionized water thu those tubes. [url]http://www.thewarfields.com/WaterCoolGallery1.htm[/url] [url]http://www.thewarfields.com/img/HotRodPC/Mashie1.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.thewarfields.com/img/HotRodPC/PrometiaLi4.jpg[/url] I've been doing allot of research on water cooling over the last few days. Its looks pretty cool. I may pick up a Lian Li server case and water cool it. I just dont have the room in this case. Its packed as it is. |
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Quoted: Scuba tanks can be a problem getting them filled. Many shops will only do so if you are dive certified with no exceptions. CO2 may be your best bet as it is cheap. Finally, paintball regulators will give you the psi you need. Many markers have LPRs (low pressure regulators). I have no problem getting my tank filled. I fill it for paintball. They had me sign a paper saying that I wasnt going to use it for human consumption. |
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Quoted: We were over at his apartment the other night for a demo. Pretty cool. My sugestion was dingle balls. He makes his Mom and Dad so proud. I think Mom was more interested in Trent rolling around and squealing than she was with the case [:)] Tough to keep her attention when the grandson is around! I'm still working on the door. I cant decide if I'm going to make it swing open, slide forward, or slide up. |
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Quoted: If you're going to liquid cool your computer, why waste time? Just get a system designed by the pioneers.... [url=http://www.cray.com/]CRAY[/url] [:)] Well what fun would that be! Venerated, I havnt water cooled yet. I'm thinking about doing it later on. A minifridge just wouldnt look as cool! But then again I could get one of those whine fridges with the glass window on the front. hmmmmmmm. |