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9/4/2014 3:53:29 PM EDT
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The NYPD is set to equip 50 officers with body cameras as part of a pilot program testing the technology, police sources said Thursday.
Police Commissioner Bill Bratton is expected to make the announcement Thursday afternoon that the cops in five different precincts will soon be wearing the recording devices, the sources said.
It wasn’t immediately clear what interactions with the public will be recorded and how long the pilot program will last.
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.
“Body cameras ought to be a win-win for both the police and the communities they serve as long as their use is limited to police interactions and addressing complaints of abuse or wrongdoing,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

“But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."
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9/4/2014 3:55:21 PM EDT
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This decision has epic long term GD entertainment potential.
9/4/2014 3:57:20 PM EDT
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So which are they going to get the most footage of?  Desks or steering wheels?
9/4/2014 3:58:11 PM EDT
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Depends on who is voluntold they have to wear it.
9/4/2014 3:58:40 PM EDT
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What's the MTBF going to be

Is the NYPD edition going to film in world star vertical format
9/5/2014 1:07:15 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure the people who will be wearing them in the pilot program are the kind least likely to get involved in something.
9/5/2014 1:11:32 AM EDT
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If I were a police officer I'd buy my own camera just to document the lies suspects would tell about me.
9/5/2014 1:36:07 AM EDT
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Fuck that..if the cops and other public safety have to wear them; it's time that they were in every neighborhood on the highest poles and perches.
You want a fucking police state?  No reason to do it piecemeal.

9/5/2014 1:48:46 AM EDT
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*giggle*

I can see it now

"Worldstar, motherfucker! Stop resisting!" *wap*

9/5/2014 1:59:54 AM EDT
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.

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Fuck their concerns.  You can't have it just your way.   If yutes want to stick a camera into every interaction with the cops and then just post the last 30 seconds of getting their asses kicked, the cops can stick a camera right back at them and show how life choices matter.
9/5/2014 2:05:26 AM EDT
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While they may not get back to the fun old days of Mad Max New York, they are certainly trying
9/5/2014 2:06:16 AM EDT
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Fuck their concerns.  You can't have it just your way.   If yutes want to stick a camera into every interaction with the cops and then just post the last 30 seconds of getting their asses kicked, the cops can stick a camera right back at them and show how life choices matter.
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Fuck their concerns.  You can't have it just your way.   If yutes want to stick a camera into every interaction with the cops and then just post the last 30 seconds of getting their asses kicked, the cops can stick a camera right back at them and show how life choices matter.
I doubt there will be much ass kicking by the camera cops

 
9/5/2014 2:12:21 AM EDT
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Some officers on here have already done so, from what they've said in other threads.  One Chief Deputy has reported that they're evaluating cameras for issue, but a number of their officers have already purchased their own.  One problem is reliability, he also reports that only about 20% of their dash cams are currently functional, the companies selling them aren't that great at support...



 
9/5/2014 2:13:56 AM EDT
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Well, I imagine it wouldn't be all that difficult to have malfunctioning camera when needed.


9/5/2014 2:23:26 AM EDT
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More stuff to lose..great. Poor guys.
9/5/2014 2:33:15 AM EDT
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.

"But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."

Fuck their concerns.  You can't have it just your way.   If yutes want to stick a camera into every interaction with the cops and then just post the last 30 seconds of getting their asses kicked, the cops can stick a camera right back at them and show how life choices matter.
I doubt there will be much ass kicking by the camera cops  

If NYPD was smart, they'd issue cameras to the most active guys.  Kicking ass is sometimes a part of the job.  Showing it from your perspective isn't a bad thing.  Then again, having read about NYPD's frequent lack of common sense from Extorris' posts, I wouldn't be surprised if the 50 cameras first go to station clerks and property techs.
9/5/2014 2:51:44 AM EDT
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No shit. It's going to bury COPS in the terms of footage.
9/5/2014 2:52:25 AM EDT
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I like your style.
9/5/2014 2:59:12 AM EDT
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This has great potential in law enforcement. Just think, they are going to have to double or triple the number of supervisors just to review the tapes.
9/5/2014 9:31:58 AM EDT
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They're already on poles in NYC.
9/5/2014 9:33:04 AM EDT
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I doubt there will be much ass kicking by the camera cops.

I doubt there will be much of anything by them.
9/5/2014 9:34:17 AM EDT
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And the second you were shown using force you'd be thrown under the bus for it as soon as the public complained.
9/5/2014 9:37:05 AM EDT
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What happens when they need to take a dump?  Is that recorded?

Serious question...
9/5/2014 9:37:26 AM EDT
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The NYPD is set to equip 50 officers with body cameras as part of a pilot program testing the technology, police sources said Thursday.
Police Commissioner Bill Bratton is expected to make the announcement Thursday afternoon that the cops in five different precincts will soon be wearing the recording devices, the sources said.
It wasn’t immediately clear what interactions with the public will be recorded and how long the pilot program will last.
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.
“Body cameras ought to be a win-win for both the police and the communities they serve as long as their use is limited to police interactions and addressing complaints of abuse or wrongdoing,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

“But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."
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As usual the activists and libtards can't decide what they want here.  They want cameras so they can catch the police doing what they think we do all day long such as racism, bias, beatings, discrimination, harassment and murder.  On the other hand they don't want the cameras to catch the criminals committing crimes and inciting police responses to their violent actions.  They want selective camera use, as long as it shows the police as thugs, and criminals as victims of police thugs.  
9/5/2014 9:40:13 AM EDT
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.
“Body cameras ought to be a win-win for both the police and the communities they serve as long as their use is limited to police interactions and addressing complaints of abuse or wrongdoing,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
“But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."
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As with everything else, the cops can't win.
9/5/2014 9:43:46 AM EDT
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I'm guessing that there will be badge bunny of the day contests going on about 5 minutes after the program starts.
9/5/2014 9:44:29 AM EDT
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As with everything else, the cops can't win.
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“Body cameras ought to be a win-win for both the police and the communities they serve as long as their use is limited to police interactions and addressing complaints of abuse or wrongdoing,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
“But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."

As with everything else, the cops can't win.


I'm going to love it when they get facial recognition software in the cameras and are connected to a central server ahd updated on
The fly...

POLICE STATE!

Right?

9/5/2014 9:49:44 AM EDT
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The cops they put those cameras on aren't going to be doing anything.
9/5/2014 9:54:49 AM EDT
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Great idea.

Departments that have officers wear body cams have seen a dramatic reduction in complaints from the public:

1) officers are more likely to behave better if they are taped
2) BS complaints from the public are reduced greatly when they can be easily disproven.

Every cop should wear one in my opinion.
9/5/2014 9:57:39 AM EDT
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The NYPD is set to equip 50 officers with body cameras as part of a pilot program testing the technology, police sources said Thursday.
Police Commissioner Bill Bratton is expected to make the announcement Thursday afternoon that the cops in five different precincts will soon be wearing the recording devices, the sources said.
It wasn’t immediately clear what interactions with the public will be recorded and how long the pilot program will last.
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But civil libertarians have privacy concerns.
“Body cameras ought to be a win-win for both the police and the communities they serve as long as their use is limited to police interactions and addressing complaints of abuse or wrongdoing,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

“But we also have concerns about mission creep and privacy. The NYPD has a long history of engaging in surveillance of innocent New Yorkers, and body cameras can’t become yet another tool for massive police surveillance."
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1660970_Police_body_cameras_raise_questions_about_privacy_rights.html

"WE WANT BODY CAMERAS!!!"

"WE DON'T WANT TO BE FILMED!!"
9/5/2014 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Great idea.
Departments that have officers wear body cams have seen a dramatic reduction in complaints from the public:

1) officers are more likely to behave better if they are taped
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Every cop should wear one in my opinion.
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If there are no consequences for making a false complaint then it won't do shit to stop them.
People make false complaints in NYC because they know even ones proven to be false go in the officer's record and are held against the officer. They are told that by the people at the CCRB who take the complaint.
9/5/2014 10:02:44 AM EDT
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If NYPD was smart, they'd issue cameras to the most active guys.  Kicking ass is sometimes a part of the job.  Showing it from your perspective isn't a bad thing.

And the second you were shown using force you'd be thrown under the bus for it as soon as the public complained.

Exactly. Put a body camera on me back in the day, you'd get 7 1/2 hours of footage of the dashboard of the car, interrupted by 1 hour of foosball in the lounge.
9/5/2014 10:03:09 AM EDT
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The cops they put those cameras on aren't going to be doing anything.
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I'm guessing that there will be badge bunny of the day contests going on about 5 minutes after the program starts.

The cops they put those cameras on aren't going to be doing anything.


Not going to be checking out yoga pants wearing hardbodies at Starbucks that the cam records and sharing the pics?  Kind of hard to believe.
9/5/2014 10:04:22 AM EDT
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You think the patrol cops themselves are going to have access to the footage?
9/5/2014 10:09:27 AM EDT
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Some officers on here have already done so, from what they've said in other threads. One Chief Deputy has reported that they're evaluating cameras for issue, but a number of their officers have already purchased their own. One problem is reliability, he also reports that only about 20% of their dash cams are currently functional, the companies selling them aren't that great at support...

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If I were a police officer I'd buy my own camera just to document the lies suspects would tell about me.


Some officers on here have already done so, from what they've said in other threads. One Chief Deputy has reported that they're evaluating cameras for issue, but a number of their officers have already purchased their own. One problem is reliability, he also reports that only about 20% of their dash cams are currently functional, the companies selling them aren't that great at support...



I'd say an even bigger problem is the extremely narrow field of view.  The only thing worse than no footage is incomplete footage.



But, piss on libertarians and their privacy concerns.  They were the ones who wanted us to wear cameras. Now we get to record every sordid incident of our jobs, and its all on public record now.
9/5/2014 10:10:52 AM EDT
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We've got an officer who is sure to leave his body mic on when he hits the bathroom.  No video, but plenty of audio.
9/5/2014 10:12:10 AM EDT
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They should be on every cop.
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*giggle*

I can see it now

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*giggle*

I can see it now

"Worldstar, motherfucker! Stop resisting!" *wap*


Lost.

Kharn
9/5/2014 10:16:44 AM EDT
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But that would be a Police State.
9/5/2014 10:36:28 AM EDT
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In for "I lost it", "It wasn't turned on", "It didn't record anything" and "It was mysteriously erased."
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The cops they put those cameras on aren't going to be doing anything.


I think they should organize cool video scavenger hunts.  
9/5/2014 10:46:45 AM EDT
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What happens when you interview a rape victim and that footage becomes FOIA material...  Juveniles...  Victims...  Witnesses...  all now easily identified by the bad guys in living color.
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What happens when you interview a rape victim and that footage becomes FOIA material...  Juveniles...  Victims...  Witnesses...  all now easily identified by the bad guys in living color.
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What happens when you interview a rape victim and that footage becomes FOIA material...  Juveniles...  Victims...  Witnesses...  all now easily identified by the bad guys in living color.


It's what the public wants, so they get it.
9/10/2014 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Anaheim just bought 250 body cams for $1.1M.