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7/21/2014 7:02:54 PM EDT
I saw one at a fun shop earlier today.  It had a price tag of $300 and seemed fairly clean and smooth in the action.

I've kinda always wanted one of these to play around with.  Is this a fair price? Would you offer less?
7/21/2014 7:05:02 PM EDT
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It will jam 10 times out of 10.
7/21/2014 7:15:41 PM EDT
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I've bought 3 over the years. None of them would shoot more than one round before jamming, that's if they would fire at all. $300 is a bit high, but if it actually works I'd pay that much.
7/21/2014 7:18:17 PM EDT
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I've bought 3 over the years. None of them would shoot more than one round before jamming, that's if they would fire at all. $300 is a bit high, but if it actually works I'd pay that much.
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what sort of jams? FTE?
7/21/2014 7:24:33 PM EDT
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Every type of jam you can think of. The first one wouldn't eject so I cleaned up the chamber, it would eject after that but wouldn't feed. The other 2 just wouldn't feed at all. I manually feed one just to see if it would fire, it fired but blew the top cover off as well. It's disappointing because they would make a cool suppressed plinker.
7/21/2014 7:25:14 PM EDT
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70% of the time , it jams all the time.

if they made alloy frames and metal triggers and didn't Suck so bad they would still be made.

and you guys say AK's belong in the trashcan......
7/21/2014 7:25:56 PM EDT
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I had one the jammed.  I took a 22 bronze brush in a drill to the chamber for about a minute and it worked great.  My brother borrowed it a few years ago and it got lost.
7/21/2014 7:26:21 PM EDT
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what sort of jams? FTE?
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I've bought 3 over the years. None of them would shoot more than one round before jamming, that's if they would fire at all. $300 is a bit high, but if it actually works I'd pay that much.

what sort of jams? FTE?

He isn't kidding. Lots of FTF and FTE. Try it out if you can - you will see. I could not get rid of the one I had fast enough.
7/21/2014 7:28:13 PM EDT
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7/21/2014 7:28:32 PM EDT
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I have had one for a long time. Back in 02 I bought it at a gun shop for $100 OTD, and they thought they were screwing me, and I wasn't sure they weren't.





It isn't the most reliable piece out there, but I have found that you have to try a lot of magazines to find which ones it runs best with. Mine works much better using Ruger mags than anything else, none of the aftermarket mags worked well at all in it, and some of the Ruger mags were so so. Even with mags it likes it will still jam now and then.



ETA: I wouldn't pay $300 for one, if you want something of that sort find a late eighties SWD M11/9, they will run fairly well and have pretty much the same cool factor (if you can call it that), and you can find 9mm.

7/21/2014 7:32:05 PM EDT
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When I was paying around $65, for them they were over priced.
7/21/2014 7:38:26 PM EDT
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I bought one as a suppressor host,thought it would be the perfect .22 plinker.

sadly it was the most frustrating unreliable POS I have ever owned and the only firearm I dont regret selling





sometimes it wouldnt feed


sometimes it wouldnt fire


sometimes it wouldnt extract


sometimes it wouldnt eject





sometimes I could get a whole 10rd mag through it without a malfunction
an incredibly wasteful exercise in futility

 
7/21/2014 7:48:49 PM EDT
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Funny how the one in the video fires from an open bolt.....mine didnt.

7/21/2014 8:30:29 PM EDT
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Funny how the one in the video fires from an open bolt.....mine didnt.

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was yours full auto?
7/21/2014 8:47:47 PM EDT
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It will jam 10 9.5 times out of 10.
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Be fair.