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7/11/2014 1:59:46 PM EDT
My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.
7/11/2014 2:43:56 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.
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The Army is dumping O-4s.
7/11/2014 2:47:49 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.


And over 1000 O-3s
7/11/2014 2:48:20 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.

Well, at least they aren't dumping generals   They really need more of those I'm sure.
7/11/2014 2:49:43 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.

Well, at least they aren't dumping generals   They really need more of those I'm sure.

not many left
7/11/2014 2:49:47 PM EDT
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And the IRS is adding staff.
7/11/2014 2:51:14 PM EDT
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My Son is working on being an E7. I thought he said he will test next month for it.
7/11/2014 2:52:10 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.

Well, at least they aren't dumping generals   They really need more of those I'm sure.

not many left

I'm talking out of my ass. 100 per cent civ
I'm just happy for my Bud.  
However, the thing had a line about frocking etc.  I guess no one is safe. Even once it's pinned on.
7/11/2014 2:59:02 PM EDT
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The Navy has more Admirals than it has ships
7/11/2014 4:19:34 PM EDT
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Those golf courses aren't going to play themselves.
7/11/2014 4:27:30 PM EDT
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I was in the Marines from 77-81 and I always had the impression, at least among the officer corp, that it was "up or out" regarding promotions. They might miss one but two or three was almost a guaranteed ticket to Civvie Land.
7/11/2014 4:31:56 PM EDT
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Congrats. My brother made O-4 last year. Big step up according to him.
7/11/2014 5:51:20 PM EDT
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Thanks.
He is excited.
What do I get him for a gift?
Scrambled eggs.
7/11/2014 9:51:24 PM EDT
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Good for him.  My younger brother just made O-4, so they sent him to Leavenworth...



The Command and General Staff College, not the disciplinary barracks :-)
7/11/2014 9:53:37 PM EDT
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My son just made o-3, four years out of the naval academy.  The next ones gonna take a little longer.
7/11/2014 9:56:22 PM EDT
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WO/CWO are the only ones safe right now in the Marine Corps.

Congrats to your buddy.
7/11/2014 9:58:22 PM EDT
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Congrats. My brother made O-4 last year. Big step up according to him.

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He is excited.
What do I get him for a gift?
Scrambled eggs.

A good pocket knife!
7/11/2014 10:09:10 PM EDT
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I keep hearing this.  And, sadly, I believe it.
7/11/2014 10:18:33 PM EDT
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Where do they fit?  Are they in sort of a no man's land between NCO's and commissioned officers?

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7/11/2014 10:42:14 PM EDT
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Congrats. My brother made O-4 last year. Big step up according to him.

Thanks.
He is excited.
What do I get him for a gift?
Scrambled eggs.

Not till O-5 in the Navy.  He's now in the odd "no respect zone."  You have three kinds of officers inthe Navy, young studs, old fudds, an Lieutenant Commanders.

He is now required to own a sword and Mess Dress (Blue and White) though, so he has that going for him.
7/11/2014 10:53:44 PM EDT
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Not till O-5 in the Navy.  He's now in the odd "no respect zone."  You have three kinds of officers inthe Navy, young studs, old fudds, an Lieutenant Commanders.



He is now required to own a sword and Mess Dress (Blue and White) though, so he has that going for him.
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Thanks.

He is excited.

What do I get him for a gift?

Scrambled eggs.


Not till O-5 in the Navy.  He's now in the odd "no respect zone."  You have three kinds of officers inthe Navy, young studs, old fudds, an Lieutenant Commanders.



He is now required to own a sword and Mess Dress (Blue and White) though, so he has that going for him.


Yeah, O-4 is typically staff officer hell, too senior for a company command, need to be an O-5 for a battalion command.  Best hope is to get a battalion XO slot, but that's still managing the battalion staff...  Oh, and schools, CGSC is a 44 week course...



 
7/11/2014 10:56:37 PM EDT
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CWO is a commissioned officer.  Just technical expert in their field and restricted to that field.
7/11/2014 11:17:11 PM EDT
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Did nothing for me.  As for the uniform/sword, I don't think I've even worn something other than khaki or Smurf camo other than our summer/winter inspections in 5 years.


USAF is asking O4 physicians to voluntarily leave in some specialties ...
7/11/2014 11:24:29 PM EDT
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The big thing with O-4 is that the Navy can't boot you before 20. Not sure if that's the case with other services.
7/11/2014 11:29:42 PM EDT
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I don't believe that to be accurate.

They are lengthening our time at O3 currently.
7/12/2014 12:30:58 AM EDT
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Navy? We test once a year in February for E7-E9.




They just announced the E7 selected for this year.
7/12/2014 1:29:52 AM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.
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Thanks for rubbing it in...I'm one of those 0-3's who got the cut.

I was notified 2 weeks ago.  9 years in the Army and in 7 months I'll be a civilian again.  It's a scary thought with a family of four.
7/12/2014 1:31:34 AM EDT
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Is that true?
7/12/2014 1:34:30 AM EDT
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CWO is a commissioned officer.  Just technical expert in their field and restricted to that field.
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Congrats to your buddy.



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CWO is a commissioned officer.  Just technical expert in their field and restricted to that field.

I don't think this is accurate.

Never mind I was wrong.
7/12/2014 1:39:32 AM EDT
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They should have more of those than retarded ass lt's
7/12/2014 2:15:33 AM EDT
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Aviators took an ass whupping on that board.  Only ~50% selection rate.  Surface and Submariners did quite well. Don't know why yet.
7/12/2014 5:26:49 AM EDT
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Yep.


7/12/2014 7:10:33 AM EDT
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Congrats. My brother made O-4 last year. Big step up according to him.

Thanks.
He is excited.
What do I get him for a gift?
Scrambled eggs.

A good pocket knife!


Something officer and gentlemanly?  
That can be arranged.
7/12/2014 8:27:34 AM EDT
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Thanks for rubbing it in...I'm one of those 0-3's who got the cut.

I was notified 2 weeks ago.  9 years in the Army and in 7 months I'll be a civilian again.  It's a scary thought with a family of four.
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.



Thanks for rubbing it in...I'm one of those 0-3's who got the cut.

I was notified 2 weeks ago.  9 years in the Army and in 7 months I'll be a civilian again.  It's a scary thought with a family of four.

Sorry to hear that man.
That is a scary thought.
If you don't mind sharing can you tell me why you think you were selected by the board?
Was there something in your file that made you stand out from the rest?
Was a it a crap shoot choice?
7/12/2014 8:41:19 AM EDT
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But only the ones who took the Loyalty Oath to the King....

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7/12/2014 9:05:28 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear that man.
That is a scary thought.
If you don't mind sharing can you tell me why you think you were selected by the board?
Was there something in your file that made you stand out from the rest?
Was a it a crap shoot choice?
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.



Thanks for rubbing it in...I'm one of those 0-3's who got the cut.

I was notified 2 weeks ago.  9 years in the Army and in 7 months I'll be a civilian again.  It's a scary thought with a family of four.

Sorry to hear that man.
That is a scary thought.
If you don't mind sharing can you tell me why you think you were selected by the board?
Was there something in your file that made you stand out from the rest?
Was a it a crap shoot choice?


sorry to hear that.
Got to pay for the EBT trash.
7/12/2014 1:55:06 PM EDT
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But only the ones who took the Loyalty Oath to the King....

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But only the ones who took the Loyalty Oath to the King....

TC

I have little doubt  known democrats were kept and known cons dumped.
7/12/2014 2:21:49 PM EDT
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My dad was an officer an told me once that an O5 was the first real weed out officer rank but O6 for the most part was the what really separated officers.   This was 10-15 years ago so I'm sure things could have changed.
7/12/2014 2:29:10 PM EDT
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I noticed that too.

Spruance was all that then some. In many ways he's our Nelson.
7/12/2014 2:35:26 PM EDT
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I'm talking out of my ass. 100 per cent civ
I'm just happy for my Bud.  
However, the thing had a line about frocking etc.  I guess no one is safe. Even once it's pinned on.
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.

Well, at least they aren't dumping generals   They really need more of those I'm sure.

not many left

I'm talking out of my ass. 100 per cent civ
I'm just happy for my Bud.  
However, the thing had a line about frocking etc.  I guess no one is safe. Even once it's pinned on.


Frocking is not a bad thing.   The Navy seemed to use that more often back when I was in(retired AF myself but heard about it).   What happens with promotions is you get a Line Number.   You don't pin on the rank until your Line Number comes up.  Line Numbers are spread out across the fiscal year to spread out the increased funding for higher ranks.   Frocking is when an individual acutally pins on the rank but don't get the pay for it until the Line Number comes around later.   So the individual get's to put the rank to use but not the benefits of the pay increase.
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Congrats to your buddy.



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CWO is a commissioned officer.  Just technical expert in their field and restricted to that field.

I don't think this is accurate.

Never mind I was wrong.

It's mostly accurate, but they aren't commissioned officers, they're officers by warrant. But that's kind of a technicality that doesn't have much bearing on day-to-day life. If you're enlisted, you still salute them and call them "sir" and they get to live in officers' country.
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It's mostly accurate, but they aren't commissioned officers, they're officers by warrant. But that's kind of a technicality that doesn't have much bearing on day-to-day life. If you're enlisted, you still salute them and call them "sir" and they get to live in officers' country.
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Congrats to your buddy.



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CWO is a commissioned officer.  Just technical expert in their field and restricted to that field.

I don't think this is accurate.

Never mind I was wrong.

It's mostly accurate, but they aren't commissioned officers, they're officers by warrant. But that's kind of a technicality that doesn't have much bearing on day-to-day life. If you're enlisted, you still salute them and call them "sir" and they get to live in officers' country.

Now, my dad told me that warrants were addressed as "mister". He was Army.
7/12/2014 3:17:44 PM EDT
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@mastodon.

Thanks for that explanation on frocking. I noticed on the paperwork that he had a number by his name. It isn't his last 4 SSN as I've seen his gear.  
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Nope.  CWO's are commissioned officers.



 
7/12/2014 3:40:31 PM EDT
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Thanks for that explanation on frocking. I noticed on the paperwork that he had a number by his name. It isn't his last 4 SSN as I've seen his gear.  
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Thats his lineal number, tells when he puts the rank on.

Frocking, at least in the Navy, is mostly an enlisted thing.  Granted I've only been in 5 years, but never seen an officer frocked.
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It's mostly accurate, but they aren't commissioned officers, they're officers by warrant. But that's kind of a technicality that doesn't have much bearing on day-to-day life. If you're enlisted, you still salute them and call them "sir" and they get to live in officers' country.
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Appointments in regular chief warrant officer grades shall be made by commission by the President...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/571

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I heard that most O-6 were academy graduates.

Yes?      No?

7/12/2014 4:44:18 PM EDT
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My friend just texted me, he made O-4.  
I am happy for him, my dad once told me that many careers end at O-3. Not making the next jump can mean "don't let the door hit you in the ass".  
I hope this means my friend has a bright future
Especially in,light of a news report I heard that the pentagon is decimating the junior officer ranks.


The Army is dumping O-4s.

Well, at least they aren't dumping generals   They really need more of those I'm sure.


Especially female minorities.
7/12/2014 4:47:59 PM EDT
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I heard that most O-6 were academy graduates.

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I heard that most O-6 were academy graduates.

Yes?      No?



Probably close to impossible. 3200 or so Navy Captains on active duty, how many does Annapolis graduate every year?

Of course, I'm sure they're over-represented compared to other commissioning sources, but probably not by much.
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