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5/16/2014 7:57:42 AM EDT
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NVM
5/16/2014 7:58:51 AM EDT
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Not the body style, the 4cyl engine.



 
5/16/2014 7:59:14 AM EDT
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A 4 cylinder turbo engine(eco boost) will be available for the 2015 Mustang, I am not sure if they will call it the SVO again.
5/16/2014 8:03:15 AM EDT
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Wow.

I see they're going for the retro 1980s look.
5/16/2014 8:03:25 AM EDT
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Yeah, I responded before I read it
5/16/2014 8:35:06 AM EDT
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Anyone remember the Firebird Sprint? OHC 6 w/4 barrel was Pontiac's version of the SVO. Popular car with smaller HO engine in it.

5/16/2014 9:10:47 AM EDT
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3.23 FD, no wonder it was a turd!
5/16/2014 9:21:20 AM EDT
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I tore Road America all the eff up in Forza in that car against Little Pone I love my Mustangs with a passion!
5/16/2014 9:30:13 AM EDT
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That doesn't sound like a turbo engine.
5/16/2014 9:49:23 AM EDT
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Im gonna guess its a EcoBoost 6.  My younger brother had a 3.8 with long tubes and a Aerostar intake that sounded similar.  A turbo 6 could be nasty if the aftermarket support comes with it, Turbonetics, wink wink.  Only way to know if it is FI is the intercooler hanging under the bumper but with the drapes closed theres no way to tell.  Id put a Ecoboost (with a turbo timer/boost controller/tune) in a GT500 chassis against any Commode(Camaro to you Bowtie pricks) or maybe even a Vette on a 1/4 strip.  If I remember the specs, the Mustangs are the lighest of the F Body cars, less motor weight with the same or more HP/TQ just makes it faster and handle better.

Possible competition for the proposed Buick GN?  Any rumors of another Dodge Daytona(Dart with a turbo)?
5/16/2014 9:55:47 AM EDT
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Actually, it does. Sounds very similar to how my Evo sounded a low RPMs.




Although, mine was cammed out so it had a nice lope to it at idle.
5/16/2014 10:05:14 AM EDT
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Im gonna guess its a EcoBoost 6.  My younger brother had a 3.8 with long tubes and a Aerostar intake that sounded similar.  A turbo 6 could be nasty if the aftermarket support comes with it, Turbonetics, wink wink.  Only way to know if it is FI is the intercooler hanging under the bumper but with the drapes closed theres no way to tell.  Id put a Ecoboost (with a turbo timer/boost controller/tune) in a GT500 chassis against any Commode(Camaro to you Bowtie pricks) or maybe even a Vette on a 1/4 strip.  If I remember the specs, the Mustangs are the lighest of the F Body cars, less motor weight with the same or more HP/TQ just makes it faster and handle better.



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Sounds like an ecoboost 6.



 
5/16/2014 11:24:40 AM EDT
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Doesn't matter what engine as long as it has that sick dual level spoiler on the back!

Rick
5/19/2014 5:05:54 AM EDT
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http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/16/2015-ford-mustang-ecoboost-first-ride-review/


Ford will slot this new turbocharged four as premium powerplant between its naturally aspirated 3.7-liter V6 and the naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V8. At last mention, the automaker said the direct-injected, all-aluminum engine will develop 305 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque, returning the best fuel economy of the three powerplants in the process.
5/19/2014 5:09:18 AM EDT
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My brother has an 86 SVO 1 of 87 Comp prep car. ( factory race car ) it is fun to drive ,
5/19/2014 5:13:03 AM EDT
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One of my managers at the place I worked at in HS had one.  Neat car for it's day.
5/19/2014 5:21:11 AM EDT
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I like that Ford is innovative, but I just couldn't see myself getting one.
5/19/2014 5:26:19 AM EDT
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One of my managers at the place I worked at in HS had one.  Neat car for it's day.
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One of my managers at the place I worked at in HS had one.  Neat car for it's day.


Those cars had a switch on the console for Premium vs Regular fuel. I suppose they didn't have the electronics in place to safely vary the timing.
5/19/2014 5:34:37 AM EDT
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I have to admit it is pretty amazing the amount of horsepower modern engineers can squeeze from motors now compared to the muscle car era.
5/19/2014 5:36:44 AM EDT
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When I think of a Mustang, I don't think of a V6... much less a four.
5/19/2014 5:41:10 AM EDT
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Seems like they should just ditch the v6 in favor of the 4cyc turbo.  
5/19/2014 5:43:35 AM EDT
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The Ford  Fairmont really has come a long way from its 6 cylinder beginnings.
5/19/2014 5:44:09 AM EDT
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That sounds like a 6
5/19/2014 5:47:22 AM EDT
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I love my GTI, and love boost, but I'm tired of front wheel drive! An Ecoboost Mustang with a mild tune is definitely something I would consider.
 



ETA The v6 sucks, but I think this Ecoboost could give it the grunt I want without the V8 cost and fuel economy.
5/19/2014 5:48:53 AM EDT
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5/19/2014 5:51:15 AM EDT
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When I think of a Mustang, I don't think of a V6... much less a four.

  Seems like they should just ditch the v6 in favor of the 4cyc turbo.  



The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.

So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium

I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks
5/19/2014 5:52:18 AM EDT
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The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.





So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium





I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks
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When I think of a Mustang, I don't think of a V6... much less a four.



  Seems like they should just ditch the v6 in favor of the 4cyc turbo.  



The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.





So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium





I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks





 

yes they are.  It's always fun.

 
5/19/2014 5:52:22 AM EDT
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What is the Tq split on those under normal conditions?
5/19/2014 6:26:40 AM EDT
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What is the Tq split on those under normal conditions?




 



I am not certain. Still FWD bias as with any Haldex setup, but no torque steer, even when making power far beyond stock levels.




When not under load the standard Haldex decouples the rear for economy. That is (relatively) easily remedied, however. It's not an ideal setup but if he loves his GTI, except for the FWD, the R seems like it should  be a natural consideration.
5/19/2014 6:33:08 AM EDT
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I don't know if I'd be willing to pay the extra for the R. Maybe the RD if the VW gods allow it.
5/19/2014 6:45:10 AM EDT
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Wonder what the tuners are going make with that motor?
5/19/2014 6:46:41 AM EDT
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gonna depend on what quality internals are used.  

 
5/19/2014 6:54:36 AM EDT
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The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.

So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium

I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks
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When I think of a Mustang, I don't think of a V6... much less a four.

  Seems like they should just ditch the v6 in favor of the 4cyc turbo.  



The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.

So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium

I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks





Cool story bro.
5/19/2014 7:05:38 AM EDT
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Anyone remember the Firebird Sprint? OHC 6 w/4 barrel was Pontiac's version of the SVO. Popular car with smaller HO engine in it.
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/06/SIA-1967PontiacFirebird_01_1500.jpg
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I have one of these. But its a 68 with the 4.1L and a 4 speed. Runs surprisingly good for a 6cyl from the 60s. The non power drums on mine are terrible though.
5/19/2014 7:25:33 AM EDT
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When I think of a Mustang, I don't think of a V6... much less a four.


  Seems like they should just ditch the v6 in favor of the 4cyc turbo.  







The 6 is probably cheaper to produce due to sharing it across platforms and not having to buy turbochargers and IC's from outside companies.



So if you want the turbo, it's probably going to be at a premium



I like this.  Turbo 4's are usually good for smacking around V8's and derpy bros in modded diesel trucks










Cool story bro.




 
STIs spank modded  Cummins (think the chip and intake turds) all day every day.
5/19/2014 7:27:03 AM EDT
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I have one of these. But its a 68 with the 4.1L and a 4 speed. Runs surprisingly good for a 6cyl from the 60s. The non power drums on mine are terrible though.
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Anyone remember the Firebird Sprint? OHC 6 w/4 barrel was Pontiac's version of the SVO. Popular car with smaller HO engine in it.
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/06/SIA-1967PontiacFirebird_01_1500.jpg
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/06/SIA-1967PontiacFirebird_05_1500.jpg


I have one of these. But its a 68 with the 4.1L and a 4 speed. Runs surprisingly good for a 6cyl from the 60s. The non power drums on mine are terrible though.


Post pics if you can. Wonder if the car has collector value in it's future, if not resto mod it. I think it will have value one day.
5/19/2014 8:29:06 AM EDT
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Post pics if you can. Wonder if the car has collector value in it's future, if not resto mod it. I think it will have value one day.
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Anyone remember the Firebird Sprint? OHC 6 w/4 barrel was Pontiac's version of the SVO. Popular car with smaller HO engine in it.
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/06/SIA-1967PontiacFirebird_01_1500.jpg
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/06/SIA-1967PontiacFirebird_05_1500.jpg


I have one of these. But its a 68 with the 4.1L and a 4 speed. Runs surprisingly good for a 6cyl from the 60s. The non power drums on mine are terrible though.


Post pics if you can. Wonder if the car has collector value in it's future, if not resto mod it. I think it will have value one day.


They made a very small number of 4 speed sprints less than 1000 in sixty eight if I recall correctly. Value seems to be inline with the higher end V8 cars. I have pics saved on my hard drive at home. I will get them up tonight. My grand father bought it new while stationed in Germany. I have thoughts of forced induction and tire smoke every time I drive it. Not to mention fond memories of adventures with grandpa from when I was younger.
5/19/2014 10:00:21 AM EDT
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The Pontiac Sprint was one of John Z. Delorean's better ideas.
5/19/2014 10:05:05 AM EDT
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Direct Injection Sell it after 60K miles.
5/19/2014 10:14:52 AM EDT
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Direct Injection diesels are the shiznit!
5/19/2014 10:28:30 AM EDT
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Looks suspiciously like the Mustang body style that came out in 1979, I know because I bought one.
5/19/2014 5:00:20 PM EDT
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As asked for here are some pictures of it a few years back. I am no photographer but you get the idea.








5/20/2014 5:15:23 AM EDT
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I wanted one of those when I was 14. It was all about power per cubic inch and I thought that was the way to go. Of course I wanted a 302 Z28 too. I believe they made a Lemans/Tempest Sprint version too but those were probably too heavy.
5/20/2014 8:37:13 AM EDT
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The Ecoboost engines so far have not had the carbon deposit problems like DI engines of the past. No EGR, and reversion through cam phasing is cleaning the valves now...  It's cool tech!