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3/23/2014 1:47:01 PM EDT
Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?
3/23/2014 1:47:51 PM EDT
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Dell is probably going to have a backup partition that you can access while booting to do a restore.
3/23/2014 1:57:25 PM EDT
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I'm sick of bloatware, screwy registry keys, missing DLL's, and Dell data safe, Dell Advisor, Dell ect.  I just want her to have a clean Laptop to check her Gmail, look at realestate, and watch netflix.
3/23/2014 1:58:45 PM EDT
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I would guess so, but I'm not actually sure.
3/23/2014 2:00:04 PM EDT
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Yes you can.  Just use her key and it won't have any problems.

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The only way it would give you a problem is if her version and key is 32bit and your OEM disc is 64bit (or vice versa)  With Win7 all versions are on the disc it's the key that unlocks whatever different version it's supposed to be (Home, Pro, Ultimate) but the keys for 32bit and 64bit aren't interchangeable.  It will give you an error that says the key is not valid in that situation
3/23/2014 2:01:41 PM EDT
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I do it all the time.
3/23/2014 2:03:38 PM EDT
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?
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I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.
3/23/2014 2:07:41 PM EDT
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It should, but like was observed above Dell often designs some screwed up stuff.

You can always try it and see.  You might be able to put any needed drivers on a USB drive and access them from there during setup.  Assuming it loads generic USB drivers early and they work.
3/23/2014 2:09:56 PM EDT
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I always get off what I need and then use Darik's boot nuke to clean the system completely, and lastly re-install the OS.
3/23/2014 2:18:54 PM EDT
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?
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No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.
3/23/2014 2:22:22 PM EDT
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Use a repair disk to return it back to factory settings.
3/23/2014 2:22:26 PM EDT
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I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.


Often times this is the case.

I recommend you use the Dell restore partition, then simply go into Programs and Features in the control panel, and uninstall any Dell crap you don't want.  That will be fastest and easiest.
3/23/2014 2:29:55 PM EDT
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No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.


Go back and reread what he said.  He was going to use his DISC and HER KEY.  You can take an OEM disc and install it on 100 different computers if you want as long as each install uses the original key that was used for that machine during it's first installation.
3/23/2014 2:32:02 PM EDT
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Often times this is the case.

I recommend you use the Dell restore partition, then simply go into Programs and Features in the control panel, and uninstall any Dell crap you don't want.  That will be fastest and easiest.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.


Often times this is the case.

I recommend you use the Dell restore partition, then simply go into Programs and Features in the control panel, and uninstall any Dell crap you don't want.  That will be fastest and easiest.


I agree with this. If your laptop was made after 2009, then it will have a recovery manager option to use the factory image, no discs required. Just back it up and restore.
3/23/2014 2:34:40 PM EDT
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I agree with this. If your laptop was made after 2009, then it will have a recovery manager option to use the factory image, no discs required. Just back it up and restore.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.


Often times this is the case.

I recommend you use the Dell restore partition, then simply go into Programs and Features in the control panel, and uninstall any Dell crap you don't want.  That will be fastest and easiest.


I agree with this. If your laptop was made after 2009, then it will have a recovery manager option to use the factory image, no discs required. Just back it up and restore.


He also said he didn't want all the Dell bloatware crap on it.  A factory restore partition is going to put all that back on there along with the OS
3/23/2014 2:39:27 PM EDT
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Go back and reread what he said.  He was going to use his DISC and HER KEY.  You can take an OEM disc and install it on 100 different computers if you want as long as each install used the original key that was used on that machine.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.


Go back and reread what he said.  He was going to use his DISC and HER KEY.  You can take an OEM disc and install it on 100 different computers if you want as long as each install used the original key that was used on that machine.


No, you can no longer do that. He is planning to use Windows 7, not an old version of XP.

Maybe this will help you to understand it better. Once his disc was activated the first time on his PC build, that was it. It will not validate another PC's hardware. From Microsoft's site:

Q: My customer bought a new PC and wants to move the OEM software from the old PC to the new one. Can't users do whatever they want with their software?

A: No, the OEM software is licensed with the computer system on which it was originally installed and is tied to that original machine. OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be installed on more than one computer system, even if the original machine is no longer in use. The End User Software License Terms, which the end user must accept before using the software, state that the license may not be shared, transferred to, or used concurrently on different computers
3/23/2014 2:40:59 PM EDT
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He also said he didn't want all the Dell bloatware crap on it.  A factory restore partition is going to put all that back on there along with the OS
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


I'll go with maybe, maybe not.  I've had dells accept my OEM disks, and others require a dell disk to work.

I don't care what people say, I say you'll have issues.

It either won't accept the key, or it won't authenticate.

Dell's OEM disks have a different set of keys than retail OEM disks.


Often times this is the case.

I recommend you use the Dell restore partition, then simply go into Programs and Features in the control panel, and uninstall any Dell crap you don't want.  That will be fastest and easiest.


I agree with this. If your laptop was made after 2009, then it will have a recovery manager option to use the factory image, no discs required. Just back it up and restore.


He also said he didn't want all the Dell bloatware crap on it.  A factory restore partition is going to put all that back on there along with the OS


He can simply uninstall anything he doesn't want, or manually delete the entries from the registry if it isn't on the list of installed programs.
3/23/2014 2:56:59 PM EDT
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No, you can no longer do that. He is planning to use Windows 7, not an old version of XP.

Maybe this will help you to understand it better. Once his disc was activated the first time on his PC build, that was it. It will not validate another PC's hardware. From Microsoft's site:

Q: My customer bought a new PC and wants to move the OEM software from the old PC to the new one. Can't users do whatever they want with their software?

A: No, the OEM software is licensed with the computer system on which it was originally installed and is tied to that original machine. OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be installed on more than one computer system, even if the original machine is no longer in use. The End User Software License Terms, which the end user must accept before using the software, state that the license may not be shared, transferred to, or used concurrently on different computers
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.


Go back and reread what he said.  He was going to use his DISC and HER KEY.  You can take an OEM disc and install it on 100 different computers if you want as long as each install used the original key that was used on that machine.


No, you can no longer do that. He is planning to use Windows 7, not an old version of XP.

Maybe this will help you to understand it better. Once his disc was activated the first time on his PC build, that was it. It will not validate another PC's hardware. From Microsoft's site:

Q: My customer bought a new PC and wants to move the OEM software from the old PC to the new one. Can't users do whatever they want with their software?

A: No, the OEM software is licensed with the computer system on which it was originally installed and is tied to that original machine. OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be installed on more than one computer system, even if the original machine is no longer in use. The End User Software License Terms, which the end user must accept before using the software, state that the license may not be shared, transferred to, or used concurrently on different computers



Again, reading fail.  He didn't ask if he could use his OEM disc and key on her computer.  He asked if he could use his OEM disc with her OEM key.  The Windows 7 OEM disc is just the software.  The OEM key is what is unique and can not be installed on multiple computers.  The key is the 25 digit sticker on the bottom of the machine it's not hard coded in to the disc itself.

As long as he uses HER KEY it doesn't matter what actual physical OEM disc he uses.  His, mine, yours, it doesn't matter.  I've done this shit a thousand times.
3/23/2014 3:10:08 PM EDT
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Again, reading fail.  He didn't ask if he could use his OEM disc and key on her computer.  He asked if he could use his OEM disc with her OEM key.  The Windows 7 OEM disc is just the software.  The OEM key is what is unique and can not be installed on multiple computers.  The key is the 25 digit sticker on the bottom of the machine it's not hard coded in to the disc itself.

As long as he uses HER KEY it doesn't matter what actual physical OEM disc he uses.  His, mine, yours, it doesn't matter.  I've done this shit a thousand times.
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Simple problem.

Wifes Dell WIN7 laptop has been so garbaged up by the kids that I want to back up her desktop to my thumbdrive,  then format the HD and reinstall WIN7.

Q:  Can I use the OEM WIN7 Disk that I used for my other build and simply insert her 25 digit key from her Windows sticker and do a clean reinstall from that?


No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.


Go back and reread what he said.  He was going to use his DISC and HER KEY.  You can take an OEM disc and install it on 100 different computers if you want as long as each install used the original key that was used on that machine.


No, you can no longer do that. He is planning to use Windows 7, not an old version of XP.

Maybe this will help you to understand it better. Once his disc was activated the first time on his PC build, that was it. It will not validate another PC's hardware. From Microsoft's site:

Q: My customer bought a new PC and wants to move the OEM software from the old PC to the new one. Can't users do whatever they want with their software?

A: No, the OEM software is licensed with the computer system on which it was originally installed and is tied to that original machine. OEM licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be installed on more than one computer system, even if the original machine is no longer in use. The End User Software License Terms, which the end user must accept before using the software, state that the license may not be shared, transferred to, or used concurrently on different computers



Again, reading fail.  He didn't ask if he could use his OEM disc and key on her computer.  He asked if he could use his OEM disc with her OEM key.  The Windows 7 OEM disc is just the software.  The OEM key is what is unique and can not be installed on multiple computers.  The key is the 25 digit sticker on the bottom of the machine it's not hard coded in to the disc itself.

As long as he uses HER KEY it doesn't matter what actual physical OEM disc he uses.  His, mine, yours, it doesn't matter.  I've done this shit a thousand times.


Thanks, I have my Dell drivers disc so I guess I can use that to reinstall the needed drivers for the laptop
3/23/2014 3:12:39 PM EDT
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Yep, or download updated ones from Dell's website for that model to a USB thumb drive on another computer and then pop that over to the machine and install from there.
3/23/2014 4:38:04 PM EDT
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Don't count on anything working but the disk that came with the laptop.  Drivers are the problem and Dell only puts the drivers on the distribution disk for the computer that it was designed for.  Go with reply #1.  Do a little research on how to do it.  Back up your data and then restore from the hidden partition on the laptop.
3/23/2014 5:19:10 PM EDT
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I'm sick of bloatware, screwy registry keys, missing DLL's, and Dell data safe, Dell Advisor, Dell ect.  I just want her to have a clean Laptop to check her Gmail, look at realestate, and watch netflix.
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Oh, that's all you want her to do?

http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop


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Don't count on anything working but the disk that came with the laptop.  Drivers are the problem and Dell only puts the drivers on the distribution disk for the computer that it was designed for.  Go with reply #1.  Do a little research on how to do it.  Back up your data and then restore from the hidden partition on the laptop.
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Thanks, I have my Dell drivers disc so I guess I can use that to reinstall the needed drivers for the laptop


Don't count on anything working but the disk that came with the laptop.  Drivers are the problem and Dell only puts the drivers on the distribution disk for the computer that it was designed for.  Go with reply #1.  Do a little research on how to do it.  Back up your data and then restore from the hidden partition on the laptop.




The newer drivers will be on the website.
3/23/2014 8:02:35 PM EDT
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Yes you can.  Just use her key and it won't have any problems.

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The only way it would give you a problem is if her version and key is 32bit and your OEM disc is 64bit (or vice versa)  With Win7 all versions are on the disc it's the key that unlocks whatever different version it's supposed to be (Home, Pro, Ultimate) but the keys for 32bit and 64bit aren't interchangeable.  It will give you an error that says the key is not valid in that situation
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Yes you can.  Just use her key and it won't have any problems.

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The only way it would give you a problem is if her version and key is 32bit and your OEM disc is 64bit (or vice versa)  With Win7 all versions are on the disc it's the key that unlocks whatever different version it's supposed to be (Home, Pro, Ultimate) but the keys for 32bit and 64bit aren't interchangeable.  It will give you an error that says the key is not valid in that situation




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No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.



Wow.  People really have no clue how OEM Windows works.  Every reply in this thread is wrong.


OP - Dell uses what's called a "Royalty BIOS" which means your Windows license is actually on the motherboard.  All you need is a Dell/OEM install disk for any version (Home, Pro, Ultimate, etc.) of Windows 7, Vista, or XP and it will work just fine.  (OEM will let you "downgrade" if you like.)  You will NOT need to enter a key, and you will NOT have to "activate" Windows.

You will have to download the device drivers for your hardware from Dell.com.  Go to Support and type in the Service Tag and it will take you right there.

So go to your favorite torrent site and grab a copy of Dell Win7 Ultimate and you're GTG.

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Wow.  People really have no clue how OEM Windows works.  Every reply in this thread is wrong.


OP - Dell uses what's called a "Royalty BIOS" which means your Windows license is actually on the motherboard.  All you need is a Dell/OEM install disk for any version (Home, Pro, Ultimate, etc.) of Windows 7, Vista, or XP and it will work just fine.  (OEM will let you "downgrade" if you like.)  You will NOT need to enter a key, and you will NOT have to "activate" Windows.

You will have to download the device drivers for your hardware from Dell.com.  Go to Support and type in the Service Tag and it will take you right there.

So go to your favorite torrent site and grab a copy of Dell Win7 Ultimate and you're GTG.

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Yes you can.  Just use her key and it won't have any problems.

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The only way it would give you a problem is if her version and key is 32bit and your OEM disc is 64bit (or vice versa)  With Win7 all versions are on the disc it's the key that unlocks whatever different version it's supposed to be (Home, Pro, Ultimate) but the keys for 32bit and 64bit aren't interchangeable.  It will give you an error that says the key is not valid in that situation




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No, it won't work since OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install it on by hardware ID. You can't even transfer it. The SBLA and EULA will prevent you from installing. Purchase a full license copy and you can install it on multiple machines.



Wow.  People really have no clue how OEM Windows works.  Every reply in this thread is wrong.


OP - Dell uses what's called a "Royalty BIOS" which means your Windows license is actually on the motherboard.  All you need is a Dell/OEM install disk for any version (Home, Pro, Ultimate, etc.) of Windows 7, Vista, or XP and it will work just fine.  (OEM will let you "downgrade" if you like.)  You will NOT need to enter a key, and you will NOT have to "activate" Windows.

You will have to download the device drivers for your hardware from Dell.com.  Go to Support and type in the Service Tag and it will take you right there.

So go to your favorite torrent site and grab a copy of Dell Win7 Ultimate and you're GTG.



Thanks

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One note: if you're installing and it asks you for a key - STOP!  You're using the wrong install disc.  It should never ask for a key or activation.  When you notice that it just skips over that step then you know you're doing it right.

If you have a Dell Win7 Install disc, go ahead and use that.  If not, I can point you to a nice one that I used to turn this Win 8.1 laptop into a Windows 7 system.