[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Counterfeit or printing error (Page 1 of 2)
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Quoted: This...also should show up under a black light. EDIT: Just read it is pre strip date. Quoted: Quoted: Hold it up to the light. Is there a narrow strip running across the bill that shows the denomination? This...also should show up under a black light. EDIT: Just read it is pre strip date. |
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It's a real note..
Red and blue fibers can be seen. There should be a watermark on the right side. It is also a star note meaning it was put in a stack to replace another note that was damaged or offset printed too much to use. A slight printing offset like that is common.. The star is more uncommon but adds zero value to a note in that condition.. It would have to be 100% flawless like it just left BoEP and nobody had ever touched it and then it would be worth like $20.75 I worked at a rare coin and note dealer for a year or so |
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It's a real note.. Red and blue fibers can be seen. There should be a watermark on the right side. It is also a star note meaning it was put in a stack to replace another note that was damaged or offset printed too much to use. A slight printing offset like that is common.. The star is more uncommon but adds zero value to a note in that condition.. It would have to be 100% flawless like it just left BoEP and nobody had ever touched it and then it would be worth like $20.75 I worked at a rare coin and note dealer for a year or so Watermarks weren't added to the $20 until 1998. ETA: It's also a replacement note as denoted (heh) by the star printed after the serial number. |
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Buy a marker and test it. A savvy counterfeiter will be able to counter those without too much trouble. Furthermore, I have seen real bills test as counterfeit using those pens. They can help, but are far from foolproof. Looking at the bill, and feeling for raised ink and composition, are still the best bets for older currency. Even the best counterfeiters rarely capture the feel of real money. |
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on a maybe interesting side note.. my daughter caught a counterfeit $100 at work, using the counterfeit detector marker customer was not pleased and professed that because of her occupation, she would never have counterfeit money! stripper huh? *not your daughter |
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Quoted: I'm pretty sure they're printed in large sheets and then cut apart, so it's just cut a little off center. Quoted: Quoted: This one is pre-strip days. It looks okay to me, just an older bill that was printed off center. I've seen quite a few like that. I'm pretty sure they're printed in large sheets and then cut apart, so it's just cut a little off center. |
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Which would mean it was printed crooked. A single cut would have equal margins on both sides if printed correctly. I have a sheet of uncut $2 bills around here in a tube somewhere. I used to be a printer, but never made any money. The BEP is a cool place to visit. Quoted:
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This one is pre-strip days. It looks okay to me, just an older bill that was printed off center. I've seen quite a few like that. I'm pretty sure they're printed in large sheets and then cut apart, so it's just cut a little off center. one of the plates probably got mis-timed and printed the face side off slightly. |
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Which would mean it was printed crooked. A single cut would have equal margins on both sides if printed correctly. I have a sheet of uncut $2 bills around here in a tube somewhere. I used to be a printer, but never made any money. The BEP is a cool place to visit. Quoted:
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This one is pre-strip days. It looks okay to me, just an older bill that was printed off center. I've seen quite a few like that. I'm pretty sure they're printed in large sheets and then cut apart, so it's just cut a little off center. Ah, I see it now, didn't notice the back side was centered. |
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Counterfeit now.
Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations •The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated •The illustration is one-sided •All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use Hide yer dag. |
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the best way to tell if its legit is to take the bill, a spoon, two eggs and and a brillo pad and put them in the microwave on high for ten minutes... What is the trick to getting this test to finish ? All i get are these damn pesky lighting bolts and explosions. 
All of these microwaves and 20's are getting expensive also. 
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on a maybe interesting side note.. my daughter caught a counterfeit $100 at work, using the counterfeit detector marker customer was not pleased and professed that because of her occupation, she would never have counterfeit money! Imagine how many more bills she'd catch if she used the proper actions/tools (popping the bill, UV light, etc). The pens just tell you it was printed on the right paper, which any good counterfeiter does by washing lower denomination bills. Kharn |