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2/9/2014 1:36:23 PM EDT
It's been a while since I asked this so I'll throw it out again.

How do I resurface this and check for square? Can I just 220 palm sand it?

The top is all sticky and dirty. Drinks, lunches, glue ups, and so on.

2/9/2014 1:47:26 PM EDT
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It's been a while since I asked this so I'll throw it out again.

How do I resurface this and check for square? Can I just 220 palm sand it?

The top is all sticky and dirty. Drinks, lunches, glue ups, and so on.

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I've done just that, then applied auto wax to the top to seal it.


Bessemeyer fence?
2/9/2014 1:49:51 PM EDT
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WD40 and fine steelwool. Apply butchers wax when finished.
2/9/2014 1:51:33 PM EDT
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steel wool and acetone,
2/9/2014 1:53:38 PM EDT
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Take a razor blade and scrape it down....
Then wet sand with 220 or above above in light oil...like liquid wrench.
Wipe it down really good, then apply a good coat of wax (NOT auto wax) use a paste finishing wax.
http://www.essentialhardware.com/product_detail.php?pid=157136&gclid=CI_el9ORwLwCFYeEfgodYRUAag
2/9/2014 1:55:00 PM EDT
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Hand sand it with a block then wax it with a non-silicone paste wax.
Check for flatness with a level and a bright light behind it.





Don't forget to clean and wax the fence too

2/9/2014 2:01:15 PM EDT
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This, plus wear liquid proof gloves, acetone will really mess with your hands.  As others have stated a good paste wax to protect it.  This what I prefer, should be able to find it in any supermarket.





2/9/2014 2:11:49 PM EDT
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This, plus wear liquid proof gloves, acetone will really mess with your hands.  As others have stated a good paste wax to protect it.  This what I prefer, should be able to find it in any supermarket.

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steel wool and acetone,
This, plus wear liquid proof gloves, acetone will really mess with your hands.  As others have stated a good paste wax to protect it.  This what I prefer, should be able to find it in any supermarket.

http://imageshack.com/a/img11/9468/p1190483dt.jpg



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2/9/2014 2:30:46 PM EDT
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You might want to google Boeshield for a rust prevention treatment
2/9/2014 2:53:54 PM EDT
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Mineral spirits and a scotchbrite pad on a random orbital sander does wonders.



Then,  I apply a coat of dry moly lube to the cast iron table.    I happen to have a gallon of it so it's used on all cast iron tool tables.




2/9/2014 5:20:11 PM EDT
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I use Boeshield on my table saw top, and orher cast iron tops.

Instead of WD-40 use some other solvent to clean up the sticky stuff only because it will probably be cheaper.  I have used scotchbrite pads when I get some rust, and if its a really agrpgressive spot use a briteboy eraser to clean out that spot.  Then wipe it down and apply Boeshield.  It works pretty good, my shop is not heated unless I am working in there.
2/9/2014 5:26:13 PM EDT
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Am I looking for a bright spotless look, or super smooth with stains / cloudy areas?

Don't mind the looks, just want smooth.

Do you guys prefer biscuits or dowels?
2/9/2014 5:27:48 PM EDT
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I've used evapo-rust to convert.  Soak paper towel in evapo rust and lay it on in strips.   Cover with plastic wrap to keep from evaporating.

Let it sit for a couple of hours, pull the towels, wipe it down vigorously, rinse, dry and wax.
2/9/2014 5:27:54 PM EDT
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My Dad taught me to work with wood and he never used either.  What do you use them for?
2/9/2014 5:30:25 PM EDT
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Don't mind the looks, just want smooth.





Do you guys prefer biscuits or dowels?




















       hand cut dovetails...duh









and nice farm/food sticker...

 
 
2/9/2014 5:30:49 PM EDT
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My Dad taught me to work with wood and he never used either.  What do you use them for?


Edge-joining two pieces of wood.
2/9/2014 5:36:42 PM EDT
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Clean, shiny and smooth if you're going to sell it, but just smooth is plenty fine otherwise.  And biscuits over dowels any day for me.
2/9/2014 5:37:58 PM EDT
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My Dad taught me to work with wood and he never used either.  What do you use them for?

Joining wood!

Making new cabinet faces and doors. May still order doors and make the new face. I'm a beginner. Lots more welding time than wood.
2/9/2014 5:40:36 PM EDT
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Am I looking for a bright spotless look, or super smooth with stains / cloudy areas?

Don't mind the looks, just want smooth.

Do you guys prefer biscuits or dowels?





       hand cut dovetails...duh

and nice farm/food sticker...
   
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Mom was a corn farm girl from Iowa. All her side were, and still own their family farms. Is it a mega-left thing? Got it at farmers market years back. Reminds me of mom.
2/9/2014 5:44:49 PM EDT
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I wouldn't use a power tool, the potential to dish the surface is too great.
2/9/2014 5:54:27 PM EDT
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Use it more often. Wood will keep it polished. If I don't use mine for a lengthy period of time, I cover them with an old sheet.

No sand paper. steel wool and oil. 3m fine scratch pad will work also.
2/9/2014 5:59:30 PM EDT
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Aren't any of you guys suggesting oils worried about staining lighter colored soft woods like Maple. If any gets in teh wood, finish won't take
2/9/2014 6:03:40 PM EDT
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You can use acetone to evac oils from the surface of a wood.  

But I wouldn't suggest oiling a tablesaw surface.   Wax only, imo.
2/12/2014 12:01:47 PM EDT
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Joining wood!

Making new cabinet faces and doors. May still order doors and make the new face. I'm a beginner. Lots more welding time than wood.
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Am I looking for a bright spotless look, or super smooth with stains / cloudy areas?

Don't mind the looks, just want smooth.

Do you guys prefer biscuits or dowels?



My Dad taught me to work with wood and he never used either.  What do you use them for?

Joining wood!

Making new cabinet faces and doors. May still order doors and make the new face. I'm a beginner. Lots more welding time than wood.


I suppose . . . I never really got into the cabinet door side of things with him, he started that after I had moved out.  Cabinet faces . . . no dowels or biscuit.  Not certain what to call what he does (not a technical woodworker, am I).  Understand how to do it, but the words to explain it aren't there.
2/12/2014 6:36:10 PM EDT
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I wouldn't use a power tool, the potential to dish the surface is too great.
With a fine scotchbrite pad or belt,   you'd have to work VERY long and hard to appreciably change the surface shape of the saw.



You can get scotchbrite belts for belt sanders.   Armed with such a device you could strip the rust off any tool's table in a few minutes and

would not do any more harm to the flatness of the table than the rust itself did.
 
2/12/2014 6:46:58 PM EDT
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Dominoes.  



Easiest way to decide between biscuits and dowels is to remember that biscuits are for alignment and don't add any meaningful strength to the joint, whereas dowels are for strength.  Dowels can be used for alignment, but biscuits are faster if you don't need the added strength of a dowel.
2/12/2014 6:48:00 PM EDT
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I've used evapo-rust to convert.  Soak paper towel in evapo rust and lay it on in strips.   Cover with plastic wrap to keep from evaporating.

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Easiest way by far.

If you use Johnson's Paste Wax (big yellow can), it smells fucking horrible from the solvents flashing off.  
2/12/2014 6:51:56 PM EDT
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000 steel wool and lacquer thinner.  Wear gloves.  No sanding.

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2/12/2014 7:04:14 PM EDT
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Biscuits and Kregs pocket hole screws.
2/12/2014 7:06:51 PM EDT
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Random-orbital with fine hook-and-loop Scotchbrite pads and a little laquer-thinner. Paste-wax for protection, and check surfaces with a light-source, straight-edge, and feeler-gauges, if needed.

I would not scrape the glue and other table-top debris with anything even remotely sharp/edged to avoid gouging the surface.
2/12/2014 7:15:22 PM EDT
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This, plus wear liquid proof gloves, acetone will really mess with your hands.  As others have stated a good paste wax to protect it.  This what I prefer, should be able to find it in any supermarket.

http://imageshack.com/a/img11/9468/p1190483dt.jpg

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steel wool and acetone,
This, plus wear liquid proof gloves, acetone will really mess with your hands.  As others have stated a good paste wax to protect it.  This what I prefer, should be able to find it in any supermarket.

http://imageshack.com/a/img11/9468/p1190483dt.jpg




Johnsons wax!!!!

clean with windex and rag, sandpaper 200+ or razor blade heavy stuff off.
2/12/2014 7:21:36 PM EDT
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After the 220, I'd be tempted to keep going through the grits all the way to 1200, then hit it with polish, and give it a mirror surface.

I don't know if it would be a wise endeavor, but hey, I'd still be tempted.  
2/12/2014 7:35:26 PM EDT
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Hand sand it with a block then wax it with a non-silicone paste wax.


Check for flatness with a level and a bright light behind it.


Don't forget to clean and wax the fence too
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This dont use anything silicone based. After you sand it wipe it down with lacquer thinner. Then apply wax.
2/12/2014 7:40:16 PM EDT
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Everyones mentioned the wax finish, but I just want to emphasize what a few have said-NO silicone in your wax. It's rub into the wood and won't take a finish.

Did I ever tell you guys about the time my wife laid a wet comforter over my jointer to "dry better"???

You can imagine what the surfaces looked like then. Fortunately, I caught it early on...
2/12/2014 7:42:23 PM EDT
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Everyones mentioned the wax finish, but I just want to emphasize what a few have said-NO silicone in your wax. It's rub into the wood and won't take a finish.

Did I ever tell you guys about the time my wife laid a wet comforter over my jointer to "dry better"???

You can imagine what the surfaces looked like then. Fortunately, I caught it early on...
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Eh, the silicone thing is over blown.  The first time you get the saw good and dusty will take care of any finishing problems the silicone might cause.
2/12/2014 7:46:34 PM EDT
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Thread title and OP made me giggle...

+1 on Johnson's floor wax as a protectant.. It's what I use on gun metal for long term storage and my stuff stays rust free a block from the ocean..

Love the stuff.. Works on wood and metal better than most other products.
2/12/2014 7:55:20 PM EDT
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Biscuits.



Rockler puts out a decent spray wax, I use that quite a bit.
2/12/2014 8:32:03 PM EDT
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If you have a welder in the background, then you probably have a right angle grinder.  There is an attachment, probably made by 3M, that threads right onto a right angle grinder.  The face of it is one half of the velcro.  Then scotchbrite discs have the other half of the velcro on their backs.

It looks like this:


And dayummmnnn! Does it work fast and awesome.  

I have used Boeshield T-9 before:


But I would swear the way it hazes up first and then you have to buff it off, it might as well be this:


Just without the lemon scent.

I had asked another guy on the cast boolits forum, who is known for his machine restorations.  He swears by Johnson Paste Wax .








2/12/2014 8:54:50 PM EDT
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No sand paper.
WD-40 and scotch bright pad.