Posted: 12/11/2002 1:24:38 PM EDT
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[b]Chinese general told threat against U.S. unacceptable Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published December 11, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The White House told a visiting Chinese general yesterday that comments he made in 1995 suggesting China would use nuclear weapons against Los Angeles were unacceptable. The discussion came during a meeting between Chinese Lt. Gen. Xiong Guankai, deputy chief of staff for intelligence, and White House National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. The meeting was part of the appeal by the Bush administration to warn China against making further nuclear threats and to make clear to Gen. Xiong that China should not miscalculate in thinking it could win an arms race with Taiwan, or that it could coerce the island into reunification. An additional message for the general was that Chinese help in getting North Korea to dismantle its nuclear program is important to U.S.-Chinese relations. Gen. Xiong is in Washington with a delegation of Chinese officials who met Monday at the Pentagon with defense officials as part of a strategic dialogue that had been put on hold after last year's aerial collision between a Chinese jet and U.S. EP-3E spy plane. Miss Rice "chose to meet with Gen. Xiong to underscore our view of international security and particularly the issue of Taiwan," a senior administration official said of the meeting. Other administration officials said plans for the meeting sparked a dispute among officials on the National Security Council staff who opposed the meeting because it would be viewed as rewarding a foreign general who threatened to attack the United States. Gen. Xiong told former defense official Charles Freeman in 1995 that the United States would not come to Taiwan's defense in any conflict with China because it "cared more about Los Angeles than Taipei," the Taiwanese capital. The remark was reported to the White House at the time as a veiled threat to use nuclear weapons against the United States. Miss Rice and two aides met with Gen. Xiong and three other Chinese military officials in her office at the White House West Wing. "She stressed that the United States does not support Taiwan independence but that we have the means and will to meet our commitments to Taipei," the senior official said. Miss Rice also told Gen. Xiong that the administration is committed to its obligations under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, which calls for the United States to meet Taiwan's defensive needs. The Bush administration announced last year it was selling guided missile destroyers and submarines to Taiwan to bolster its forces against China's military buildup, especially of short-range missiles. Miss Rice also said that "any differences must be resolved peacefully and without resort to force or coercion," the official said. She said "there is no justification for the continued buildup of Chinese missiles along the Taiwan Strait," the official said, noting that "it is the Chinese buildup of missiles and other forces that increases tensions in the region." "And we believe that enhancing peace and stability in the region should be begun with the end, and then the reversal of this buildup," the official said. Chinese President Jiang Zemin suggested to President Bush in Crawford, Texas, in October that China would be willing to reduce the missile deployments opposite Taiwan if the United States curbed arms sales to Taiwan. U.S. officials said the offer was an informal suggestion rather than a serious proposal. [/b] |
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Seven years later the US FINALLY responds to a backhanded threat to a specific US city by the Chinese. [i][b]{Applause}[/b][/i] Sandy Berger and William Cohen should be publically flogged for letting China get away with all the sh!t that went down during the Klinton maladminstration. |
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Quoted: Seven years later the US FINALLY responds to a backhanded threat to a specific US city by the Chinese. [i][b]{Applause}[/b][/i] Sandy Berger and William Cohen should be publically flogged for letting China get away with all the sh!t that went down during the Klinton maladminstration. I remember when this was said and the Klinton pussy administration in all of their foreign policy glory, decided not to respond. It takes a republican administration with BALLS to bring it back up and throw it in thier face like a dog and his piss on the rug. |
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Another reminder of what an embarrasment to the U.S. that Clinton and his chickensh*t team were. The Chinese threaten to hit LA and they ignore the entire thing. Just a few Clinton White House achievements that stick in my mind: '93 WTC bombings - no retaliation (we put them through the criminal system? WTF were they thinking?) Usama offered on a silver platter by Sudan - but WH lawyers didn't approve so we let him go (guess it never occurred to them that maybe we just shoot him?) Embassy bombings - no retaliation Somalia - No AC130's or armor allowed. We know the rest... No attempt to look for Scott Spicher when new intel rec'd. ("Didn't want to look for bones") Cole/Yemen - No retaliation (and no rifles allowed for FBI investigators self-defense. Wouldn't look good according to Louis Freeh.) |
| Isn't it funny how Bush who is supposedly a dim bulb according to the Dumbasses Unlimited has appointed basically the best cabinet in U.S. history (for the most part)? Condolezza Rice is some bad ass shit. She's like a smarter, less foul-mouthed version of Ann Coulter (no offense to Ann). |
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Finally somebody in Washington with a steel spine. I can imagine that more than raised some eyebrows in the PRC. Brute force is about the only thing that really commands respect in the world, because nobody wants to be made into molten glass... And, she is a self-described "Second Amendment absolutist". Good. When is she running for president? I'll be her Massachusetts campaign manager [:D] |
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Quoted: Isn't it funny how Bush who is supposedly a dim bulb according to the Dumbasses Unlimited has appointed basically the best cabinet in U.S. history (for the most part)? Condolezza Rice is some bad ass shit. She's like a smarter, less foul-mouthed version of Ann Coulter (no offense to Ann). Mmmmmm, then again, he did appoint Colin Powell at State, and our old friend McGaw at airport security...... |
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Quoted: she is a experienced and intelligent person......pretty much down to earth.....good looking too........ She's rumored to be a Vice-President candidate if Cheney didn't run with Bush in '04. More power to her. The NAACP and other black-against-white hate groups hate her because she's smart, tough and isn't a Democrat (same with Powell). There are more blacks in positions of [b]real[/b] power and influence from a Republican administration then there ever was from any Democrat administration. And they were picked for their skill and experience instead of their race. But of course the NAACP is still telling us how the Republican Party is made up of KKK racists. Let them drown in their own hate mongering. |
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Quoted: I have always been proud to be an American (well almost always), but son-of-a-bitch if the last two years haven't nearly brought tears to my eyes watching things start to turn around. [:D] [USA] Kroagnon, you Sir, among others here, have it all figured out. Bravo!! [beer] |
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C'mon, mattja. If LA, SF, and Berkeley were written off, then that would DEFINITELY take care of most of the lefties in Congress, and I believe that was his point. NO ONE wants to have a fireball go off, ANYWHERE, but if there WERE places in the US that need one, those 3 would be in the top 5. Lay off the [i]ad hominem[/i] attacks, even when they are valid. We're family, here. |
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Quoted: Hell, let 'em nuke LA, and San Fran, and the rest of the left coast liberal shitholes (yes, including Berkley). That would help out our fight for our freedom. something tells me this guy is missing some teeth, is married to his sister and has at least one fridge in his front yard |
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Quoted: Quoted: Hell, let 'em nuke LA, and San Fran, and the rest of the left coast liberal shitholes (yes, including Berkley). That would help out our fight for our freedom. something tells me this guy is missing some teeth, is married to his sister and [blue]has at least one fridge in his front yard[/blue] Something you'd NEVER get away with in Berkley!! [:D] |
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Quoted: something tells me this guy is missing some teeth, is married to his sister and has at least one fridge in his front yard Something tells you wrong... My wife is from Illinois, I'm from Missippi, I'm a vetern w/11 years of service in the USMC, and 40% disabled, and it ain't from my teeth. Big tough talk from guys (you and mattja) who are afraid to have any info in the user cp. When you guys grow up and take a look at what those liberal shitholes do to the rest of the state and country, you will understand that those vermin need to be taken out..... Just go look a the election map from both the '00 presidential race and from the recent Cali state race, ant see exactly how a small area of the state screwes it up for the rest..... |
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Quoted: C'mon, mattja. If LA, SF, and Berkeley were written off, then that would DEFINITELY take care of most of the lefties in Congress, and I believe that was his point. I'm downwind of Berkeley. Just what I need, to be breathing radioactive liberal dust. [puke] |
| Hydguy, I was going to let your first comment slide, but your second post tells me you're serious. With all due respect to your service to our country, your death wish upon American citizens is UN-FUCKING-AMERICAN and UN-FUCKING-MARINE. You don't get it, do you? Yeah, there are alot of liberals in LA and SF but there are alot of gun owners, conservatives, children, dogs, veterans, elderly, and MARINES who live here too. Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out? Disgraceful. |
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And to add to RustyTX's list: How about the 1994 deal with North Korea ?? You promise to discontinue your nuclear arms program, we will build you reactors (light-water, no good for nuke arms) How's that one looking today ?!?!!?!? North Korea never quit their arms programs, and announced today they will restart the nuke plants that can make weapons grade plutonium !! |
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Quoted: And to add to RustyTX's list: How about the 1994 deal with North Korea ?? You promise to discontinue your nuclear arms program, we will build you reactors (light-water, no good for nuke arms) How's that one looking today ?!?!!?!? North Korea never quit their arms programs, and announced today they will restart the nuke plants that can make weapons grade plutonium !! Thanks rangedog.. I had forgotten to mention the one item that has the greatest chance of blowing up in our collective faces (literally). The N. Korea deal was more highminded, utopian BS that Clinton's bunch tried to apply to a leader that is so insane he believes his own propaganda (there is no reasoning with the insane). Hopefully Condi will have a 'meeting' with them too (real soon)... |
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Quoted: Condi for prez or vice prez. It doesn't matter to me - she's out-friggin'-standing!!!!!!!! She's got my vote anyday. I've been a big fan of hers since she first started out. Way to go Condi. I was amazed the first few times I saw her giving speeches or holding press conferences. She seems unflapable. She rocks! And I second for VP or Pres. |
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Quoted: Hell, let 'em nuke LA, and San Fran, and the rest of the left coast liberal shitholes (yes, including Berkley). That would help out our fight for our freedom. Go tell your mom to get on this computer so we can tell her what you're up to. Gee, do you think for a microsecond than any Virginians would die in the insuing war with China following the lauch for a few thousand nuclear warheads. R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C learn it, love it. I don't often resort to ridicule but you really needed it. |
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Hmm.. I don't think that my mom is too concerned with my posting habits, nor is my wife. Of course what I said was in JEST, but none of you Cali guys seem to be able to get humor without little emoticons. But if theose three areas were changed, all would be well. But since CA is the liberal bastion in those 3 areas, it's all fair game. Same with Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, New York, and all of New Jersey. |