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12/23/2013 10:19:25 AM EDT
Should everyone own a set of inch and metric box end wrenches?




ETA this would be in addition to combination wrenches, assume one has a fairly decent tool inventory.

Also, this is not about the ratcheting box end wrenches.
12/23/2013 10:20:08 AM EDT
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At the very least.
12/23/2013 10:20:19 AM EDT
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Combination wrenches, sure.
12/23/2013 10:20:55 AM EDT
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Yes and a good set of sockets
12/23/2013 10:22:12 AM EDT
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Combination wrenches, sure.
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I mean in addition to combination wrenches.

And to clarify, regular box-end wrenches, not the ratcheting box end wrenches.
12/23/2013 10:22:17 AM EDT
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

(eta;  5 secs too late).  The ratchet wrenches will replace half of your socket set usage.
12/23/2013 10:22:26 AM EDT
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If you work on foreign and domestic vehicles.
12/23/2013 10:22:33 AM EDT
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yes and a equal amount of Gearwrench's

 
12/23/2013 10:23:45 AM EDT
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Yes, they can solve access issues.  I use mine mostly for keeping unanchored bolts from spinning.
12/23/2013 10:23:53 AM EDT
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yes and a BFH.
12/23/2013 10:25:14 AM EDT
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

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Can't drop the metric. Gotta have both.
12/23/2013 10:25:17 AM EDT
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

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???

I end up using my metrics way more.
12/23/2013 10:26:03 AM EDT
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Yes, they can solve access issues.  I use mine mostly for keeping unanchored bolts from spinning.
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Exactly what I would use them for.
12/23/2013 10:26:14 AM EDT
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Should everyone own a set of inch and metric box end wrenches?
ETA this would be in addition to combination wrenches, assume one has a fairly decent tool inventory.



Also, this is not about the ratcheting box end wrenches.
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Good luck working on any American made car, at least 20 years old and newer, without some metric tools.




If you want box end, go with Gearwrench's ratcheting box-end wrenches.
12/23/2013 10:26:31 AM EDT
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I mean in addition to combination wrenches.

And to clarify, regular box-end wrenches, not the ratcheting box end wrenches.
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Combination wrenches, sure.



I mean in addition to combination wrenches.

And to clarify, regular box-end wrenches, not the ratcheting box end wrenches.


I've never found a need for a regular box end wrench vs. combo wrenches.  My combo wrenches are all 12 point, and my gearwrenches are 6 point.  I have a crapload of sockets as well and have never found a fastener I couldn't remove with the tools I own.  I will say a set of ratcheting flare nut wrenches is a godsend if you work on aircraft hydraulic/pneumatic systems.
12/23/2013 10:26:38 AM EDT
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yes and a BFH.
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3# sledge?
12/23/2013 10:28:11 AM EDT
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?
12/23/2013 10:28:12 AM EDT
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

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If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.

12/23/2013 10:28:49 AM EDT
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If you want box end, go with Gearwrench's ratcheting box-end wrenches.
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How well does the mechanism of the "gearwrench" brand hold up to being beat upon? Any warranty with them?
12/23/2013 10:30:54 AM EDT
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While everyone likes to beat on Harbor Freight, they sell some decent wrenches that work great for a little money.  Get a set of their box wrenches, in both metric and SAE. I have some and they work just as good as my Snap On wrenches.
12/23/2013 10:31:10 AM EDT
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I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
12/23/2013 10:31:47 AM EDT
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If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.

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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

(eta;  5 secs too late).  The ratchet wrenches will replace half of your socket set usage.


If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.



And visa versa 90% of the time.  

Disclaimer; This from a farmer's point of view, not a mechanic's.  We replaced most combo and socket usage when we got our first set of gearwrenches.
12/23/2013 10:33:57 AM EDT
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5# mini.sledge. Box ends and double on both sets of combos and box. Sometimes ya need to modify one to do the job. Crows feet are good to have as well. I have a metric and standard drawer with doubles. Another drawer with box ends and extras for mods....I am glad I bought a box I can add on to
12/23/2013 10:36:29 AM EDT
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You should have short and long six sided and short and long 12 point box ends in both metric and sae.  Plus ratcheting boxends in metric and sae.



Then you can branch out into other varieties.

12/23/2013 10:37:12 AM EDT
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12/23/2013 10:38:48 AM EDT
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If you work on foreign and domestic vehicles.
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Aren't they all foreign AND domestic?

 
12/23/2013 10:39:24 AM EDT
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I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?




I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.

 
12/23/2013 10:40:21 AM EDT
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What tool do you lose the most?

I have three 10mm wrenches for a reason.  I don't know what it is with me and that particular size.

That and needle nose pliers.  I should just start each job with a gratuitous "Where the hell are my pliers"?
12/23/2013 10:41:39 AM EDT
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I love my GearWrenches.

I have not abused them, but I have used them hard and never a failure.
12/23/2013 10:42:50 AM EDT
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Everyone shold own a set.
12/23/2013 10:43:44 AM EDT
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How well does the mechanism of the "gearwrench" brand hold up to being beat upon? Any warranty with them?
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If you want box end, go with Gearwrench's ratcheting box-end wrenches.





How well does the mechanism of the "gearwrench" brand hold up to being beat upon? Any warranty with them?







 



Warranty: Lifetime http://www.gearwrench.com/warranty













Beating worthy? Yes. I've used them when hanging transmissions, bell housings and axle u-bolts and shackle, and have never had one fail yet. That said, I generally use a 1/2" drive breaker bar with the appropriate 6pt socket, and then may even slip a length of pipe or the floorjacks's 4ft long lever handle (aka, "cheater bar" ;-)) over the breaker bar's handle if I need to remove a really stubborn fastener.





















 
12/23/2013 10:44:24 AM EDT
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This.
12/23/2013 10:44:49 AM EDT
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A couple of my vehicles are from the time frame when they decided to mix metric and standard bolts in the same vehicle.    I have quite a few sets of both.  Some are my better ones such as Craftsman stay home, while the others are cheap brands that go with me.
12/23/2013 10:44:53 AM EDT
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Anyone who is handy with tools and wants to keep tools for projects or repairs needs to have a set.  Some people are incompetent with tools, there are natural born klutzes, they generally won't own many tools since they are better off not using them.



I had a college kid worked for me part time, nice kid, smart, complete klutz on mechanical things though, don't ask him to assemble anything.  When he graduated and moved away I gave him a joke trophy I made for him, the "Manual Dexterity" award, it was a crumpled up scrap of copper tubing mounted on a wooden base, with an engraved plate, he got a good kick out of it, his dad also got a good laugh, he knew his kid, it was funny, his mother just didn't get it!  Apparently he inherited his klutz gene from her.
12/23/2013 10:45:28 AM EDT
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Yes.
Both six point and twelve point.
12/23/2013 10:47:20 AM EDT
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You can also loop the box end over an Allen key when you need more torque.
12/23/2013 10:47:44 AM EDT
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Perfect for your Norton or Triumph!



 
12/23/2013 10:49:27 AM EDT
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Anyone who is handy with tools and wants to keep tools for projects or repairs needs to have a set.  Some people are incompetent with tools, there are natural born klutzes, they generally won't own many tools since they are better off not using them.

I had a college kid worked for me part time, nice kid, smart, complete klutz on mechanical things though, don't ask him to assemble anything.  When he graduated and moved away I gave him a joke trophy I made for him, the "Manual Dexterity" award, it was a crumpled up scrap of copper tubing mounted on a wooden base, with an engraved plate, he got a good kick out of it, his dad also got a good laugh, he knew his kid, it was funny, his mother just didn't get it!  Apparently he inherited his klutz gene from her.
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Sounds like he got the lulz gene from dad.
12/23/2013 10:50:13 AM EDT
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Those aren't wrenches though.  They're spanners...  

I have a set of King Dick brand spanners in my box. Seriously.
12/23/2013 10:53:23 AM EDT
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And visa versa 90% of the time.  





Disclaimer; This from a farmer's point of view, not a mechanic's.  We replaced most combo and socket usage when we got our first set of gearwrenches.
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.





(eta;  5 secs too late).  The ratchet wrenches will replace half of your socket set usage.






If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.











And visa versa 90% of the time.  





Disclaimer; This from a farmer's point of view, not a mechanic's.  We replaced most combo and socket usage when we got our first set of gearwrenches.





 

Yup. You could satisfy 99% of all your tool needs with a set of gearwrenches, their 1/2" and 3/8" adapters to run regular sockets and a set of deepwell sockets:















 
12/23/2013 10:54:42 AM EDT
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  Yup. You could satisfy 99% of all your tool needs with a set of gearwrenches, their 1/2" and 3/8" adapters to run regular sockets and a set of deepwell sockets:

http://www.jbtoolsales.com/gearwrench-9231d-3-piece-fractional-adapter-set/?gclid=CP_N5ZuPx7sCFUpBQgoddW8A2g

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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

(eta;  5 secs too late).  The ratchet wrenches will replace half of your socket set usage.


If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.



And visa versa 90% of the time.  

Disclaimer; This from a farmer's point of view, not a mechanic's.  We replaced most combo and socket usage when we got our first set of gearwrenches.

  Yup. You could satisfy 99% of all your tool needs with a set of gearwrenches, their 1/2" and 3/8" adapters to run regular sockets and a set of deepwell sockets:

http://www.jbtoolsales.com/gearwrench-9231d-3-piece-fractional-adapter-set/?gclid=CP_N5ZuPx7sCFUpBQgoddW8A2g

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4900/f4083/products/37360/images/39942/KDG-9231D__33725.1361596004.1280.1280.jpg
 


I got a set of those, makes a very nice compact ratchet set.
12/23/2013 10:54:55 AM EDT
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I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.  
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?


I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.  


A "set" of box end wrenches typically has a different size on the opposing end.

10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc
12/23/2013 10:55:24 AM EDT
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I suddenly understand why mechanics are perpetually indebted to the Snap-On guy.

"Need" a set of box end only wrenches? Fuck no...not even close. The only time I've ever used one is when I couldn't find the right size combo first....

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12/23/2013 10:57:17 AM EDT
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I don't see the need for a set of box end wrenches only if you already have combo wrenches and sockets

I would get blue point wratchet wrenches before a box end set

Blue point are worth the price difference over gear wrench.  Plus gear wrench heads are huge

Snap on if you can find them cheap on eBay in metric.  Can't justify the price in standard with so many things metric now
12/23/2013 10:59:30 AM EDT
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A "set" of box end wrenches typically has a different size on the opposing end.

10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?


I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.  


A "set" of box end wrenches typically has a different size on the opposing end.

10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc


Right, and that makes sense to have in one place only.  My motorcycle's under-seat tool kit.  Otherwise, I'd rather have the added length and leverage that my combo wrenches have.
12/23/2013 11:00:42 AM EDT
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10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?




I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.  




A "set" of box end wrenches typically has a different size on the opposing end.



10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc
Yeah I know, but I don't understand why you'd want that, assuming you already owned combo wrenches.

 
12/23/2013 11:03:00 AM EDT
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I got a set of those, makes a very nice compact ratchet set.
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.



(eta;  5 secs too late).  The ratchet wrenches will replace half of your socket set usage.




If you can get a metric set that doesn't skip any sizes, they can be used on english nuts and bolts.







And visa versa 90% of the time.  



Disclaimer; This from a farmer's point of view, not a mechanic's.  We replaced most combo and socket usage when we got our first set of gearwrenches.


  Yup. You could satisfy 99% of all your tool needs with a set of gearwrenches, their 1/2" and 3/8" adapters to run regular sockets and a set of deepwell sockets:



http://www.jbtoolsales.com/gearwrench-9231d-3-piece-fractional-adapter-set/?gclid=CP_N5ZuPx7sCFUpBQgoddW8A2g



http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4900/f4083/products/37360/images/39942/KDG-9231D__33725.1361596004.1280.1280.jpg

 




I got a set of those, makes a very nice compact ratchet set.




 
I keep a set of grearwrenches and their adapters in the truck's tool box, and just those few sockets specific to the truck.
12/23/2013 11:05:12 AM EDT
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The little dog-leg at the ends might come in handy once in a blue moon.

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12/23/2013 11:05:57 AM EDT
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Yes
12/23/2013 11:06:49 AM EDT
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Right, and that makes sense to have in one place only.  My motorcycle's under-seat tool kit.  Otherwise, I'd rather have the added length and leverage that my combo wrenches have.
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Help me out here: Why wouldn't having a combo wrench suffice?


I look at it as a dogbone or crows foot, something not necessarily "necessary", but could be very useful at times...
I don't understand why you'd want or need both ends of the wrench to be closed. All of my wrenches are open on one end, and closed on the other. I can't think of a time where I wished that both ends were closed.  


A "set" of box end wrenches typically has a different size on the opposing end.

10 mm on one end, 12 mm on the other. Etc


Right, and that makes sense to have in one place only.  My motorcycle's under-seat tool kit.  Otherwise, I'd rather have the added length and leverage that my combo wrenches have.


That's the only possible use I could think of for it either, and then it would have to be 12mm and 13mm.  Then I would still need an open end 13mm for the chain adjusters.  So actually I can think of zero uses for a set of metric box end wrenches, and even less for an inch set.
12/23/2013 11:07:20 AM EDT
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Drop the metric and spend the savings on standard ratchet wrenches.

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very few fasteners made these days are standard.

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