[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Anyone ever use dynamite.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/13/2013 11:04:38 AM EDT
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Apparently years ago you could stroll into a hardware store and buy a case of dynamite...my dad has an old wooden crate in his barn that's decades old and it is marked Dynamite.....how sweet would that be....someone has to have some stories
ETA: crate looks like this one 
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When I was little, 4 years old or so, I used to run around with my grandpa doing all the cool stuff he did, trading horses, fishing, and so on.
More than once when we were at Dove Creek with some of my dad's cousins they threw something into the water that caused a tall geyser spray up. I though that was pretty cool. Years later I realized just what they were doing. Also, I can remember seeing dynamite for sale in the back of Hilton's Hardware on the square in town when I was older. |
| The family farmers were using it to clear beaver dams until the mid 80s. The family story goes that they strung a hedgerow that was a crow roost, back when you got a bounty for crows. It's told that they filled grain carts with birds. That would have been in the 20-30s, a guess, I was not around. |
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In the '90's there was a Class III and explosives dealer in Memphis, TN - IIRC it was Omni Distributors - and when I found them in the phone book, me and a buddy and his dad went and bought a case of binary explosives, with the goal of removing some beaver dams from their property.
For a year or two after that, every few weeks we'd go set our charges and remove a dam or two. It was good, clean fun (well, good, anyway) and I hate that it's so hard to get explosives nowadays. I'd certainly find something that needed to be removed if I legally could. |
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Not dynamite, too damn expensive and had storage requirements The binary stuff you mixed was a hell of a lot cheaper and worked just as well.
The problem in buying was that you could not buy "just enough". Explosive, det cord and blasting caps had to be bought in complete sets, they would not break a case or roll. I dug my septic tank with binary. 
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I used it years ago in the coal mines it will give you a head ache you wont ever forget !  Nitroglycerin is a vasodilator. I have heard that a lot of miners and blasters would drop dead shortly after retirement due to unknown heart conditions that the nitro was hiding. |
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I used it years ago in the coal mines it will give you a head ache you wont ever forget ! Nitroglycerine is a powerful vasodilator. Factory workers will get accustomed to the effects after a few days. But if they are out of work for more than 3 or 4 days, they get the headaches again when exposed to it. |
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Geogel 60% nitro, prima cord... Was a seismic driller for a few years. Regs have tightened up since the last time I used any of that stuff but there were 'moments' that it was used in an unconventional way.  When my dad was in Egypt, all the explosives were in a bunker. His company had a key and the local police had a key. If you asked for admittance just before prayer time, the police would give you their key. He said some guys wrapped some primacord around some 4x4s and pipe. It would slice the pipe and turn the 4x4s into toothpicks. |
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Apparently years ago you could stroll into a hardware store and buy a case of dynamite...my dad has an old wooden crate in his barn that's decades old and it is marked Dynamite.....how sweet would that be....someone has to have some stories ETA: crate looks like this one http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj67/lsheets65/il_570xN312520381_zpscc910199.jpg Those old crates are sweet.... as long as they are empty... and the prior contents didn't leach NG into the wood. 
Really old sticks where the NG is crystallizing out is not fun to dispose of. |
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Common practice in NH and some other states up until after 9-11..most places you could buy Dynamite and blasting caps with no more than a DL for their ATF record book I had no idea it was readily available just a few short years ago IIRC NH was probably one of the last places it was "Readily" available Friend of my Brother's had a cabin in NH, and i remember helping him bust some stumps as late as 1986 before i got on the Job..I remember him talking about picking up another case around 1992 or 3 to clear some more of the property |
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If one wnats to play with that stuff legally, how do you do so? Get a license or something?? Is that possible in this day and age? http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/become-an-fel.html http://www.atf.gov/content/Explosives/explosives-industry/explosives-how-binary-explosives |
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That demands elaboration. Shots with the equivalent of more than 750 tractor trailer loads of TNT? Really? Quoted:
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Meh. We shoot shots with more explosive energy than "Little Boy" about once a month. We shoot a few smaller ones every day. That demands elaboration. Shots with the equivalent of more than 750 tractor trailer loads of TNT? Really? Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. 
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I have a buddy with a construction company and he's licensed for it. We're going to collapse a small cave that is a big leak in his pond some time this winter. Personally, I think he's going to blow the whole shebang completely to Hell and have to start over but he insists he's a professional. I was in favor of pumping concrete in the cave but he's got a thing for dynamite. I can't wait to see if it works. My great uncle used to blast out highway cuts. He was a complete nut. Came back from WWII that way after being left stranded in the Phillipines for a while. He used to do some incredible 4th of July displays. The time he blew up the outhouse was a true family classic. |
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Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. http://www.dgihire.com/images/triple-p-truck-web.png Quoted:
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Meh. We shoot shots with more explosive energy than "Little Boy" about once a month. We shoot a few smaller ones every day. That demands elaboration. Shots with the equivalent of more than 750 tractor trailer loads of TNT? Really? Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. http://www.dgihire.com/images/triple-p-truck-web.png Yes, yes they do. |
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If one wnats to play with that stuff legally, how do you do so? Get a license or something?? Is that possible in this day and age? http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/become-an-fel.html http://www.atf.gov/content/Explosives/explosives-industry/explosives-how-binary-explosives Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? |
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Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? Quoted:
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If one wnats to play with that stuff legally, how do you do so? Get a license or something?? Is that possible in this day and age? http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/become-an-fel.html http://www.atf.gov/content/Explosives/explosives-industry/explosives-how-binary-explosives Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? Well, if you had a business in that land, you could probably get one. I figure ranches and farms still use it for construction and demolition. |
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I have a buddy with a construction company and he's licensed for it. We're going to collapse a small cave that is a big leak in his pond some time this winter. Personally, I think he's going to blow the whole shebang completely to Hell and have to start over but he insists he's a professional. I was in favor of pumping concrete in the cave but he's got a thing for dynamite. I can't wait to see if it works. My great uncle used to blast out highway cuts. He was a complete nut. Came back from WWII that way after being left stranded in the Phillipines for a while. He used to do some incredible 4th of July displays. The time he blew up the outhouse was a true family classic. That's almost as good as fixing everything with fire. Fire or explosives; no matter the problem, it's fixed. |
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Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? Quoted:
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If one wnats to play with that stuff legally, how do you do so? Get a license or something?? Is that possible in this day and age? http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/become-an-fel.html http://www.atf.gov/content/Explosives/explosives-industry/explosives-how-binary-explosives Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? This quote is from the second link; I suppose they avoided answering your question on purpose: Mixing binary components together constitutes manufacturing explosives. Persons manufacturing explosives for their own personal, non-business use only (e.g., personal target practice) are not required to have a Federal explosives license or permit. However, individuals or companies must obtain a Federal explosives manufacturing license if they intend to engage in the business of manufacturing explosives for sale or distribution, or for their own business use. Such business uses include manufacturing for use in commercial blasting applications, removing obstacles such as trees or rocks during construction, theatrical special effects, and for demonstration or product testing purposes. You can make targets to shoot, but you can't make explosives to remove rocks for construction. No mention of whether you can do this for yourself if you want to build a basement, septic tank, pond, or you just like loud noises and random holes in the ground. I'm sort of intrigued now. I'd happily buy a case of whatever if I could use it to blow a hole in our farm for our future basement. |
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This quote is from the second link; I suppose they avoided answering your question on purpose: Mixing binary components together constitutes manufacturing explosives. Persons manufacturing explosives for their own personal, non-business use only (e.g., personal target practice) are not required to have a Federal explosives license or permit. However, individuals or companies must obtain a Federal explosives manufacturing license if they intend to engage in the business of manufacturing explosives for sale or distribution, or for their own business use. Such business uses include manufacturing for use in commercial blasting applications, removing obstacles such as trees or rocks during construction, theatrical special effects, and for demonstration or product testing purposes. You can make targets to shoot, but you can't make explosives to remove rocks for construction. No mention of whether you can do this for yourself if you want to build a basement, septic tank, pond, or you just like loud noises and random holes in the ground. I'm sort of intrigued now. I'd happily buy a case of whatever if I could use it to blow a hole in our farm for our future basement. Quoted:
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If one wnats to play with that stuff legally, how do you do so? Get a license or something?? Is that possible in this day and age? http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/become-an-fel.html http://www.atf.gov/content/Explosives/explosives-industry/explosives-how-binary-explosives Hmmm. Looks like you actually have to have a business reason. Not just a landowner getting rid of stumps. Am I wrong? This quote is from the second link; I suppose they avoided answering your question on purpose: Mixing binary components together constitutes manufacturing explosives. Persons manufacturing explosives for their own personal, non-business use only (e.g., personal target practice) are not required to have a Federal explosives license or permit. However, individuals or companies must obtain a Federal explosives manufacturing license if they intend to engage in the business of manufacturing explosives for sale or distribution, or for their own business use. Such business uses include manufacturing for use in commercial blasting applications, removing obstacles such as trees or rocks during construction, theatrical special effects, and for demonstration or product testing purposes. You can make targets to shoot, but you can't make explosives to remove rocks for construction. No mention of whether you can do this for yourself if you want to build a basement, septic tank, pond, or you just like loud noises and random holes in the ground. I'm sort of intrigued now. I'd happily buy a case of whatever if I could use it to blow a hole in our farm for our future basement. Just be sure you paint a bullseye on it first.  
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I still remember reading a " How To" Article in one of my dads 1960's Field & Stream;
How to build your own 1/4 acre duck pond using 50lbs of Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer, 2 quarts of No. 2 fuel oil, and a stick of dynamite. Pretty sure they won't be reprinting it.... |
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That's almost as good as fixing everything with fire. Fire or explosives; no matter the problem, it's fixed. Quoted:
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I have a buddy with a construction company and he's licensed for it. We're going to collapse a small cave that is a big leak in his pond some time this winter. Personally, I think he's going to blow the whole shebang completely to Hell and have to start over but he insists he's a professional. I was in favor of pumping concrete in the cave but he's got a thing for dynamite. I can't wait to see if it works. My great uncle used to blast out highway cuts. He was a complete nut. Came back from WWII that way after being left stranded in the Phillipines for a while. He used to do some incredible 4th of July displays. The time he blew up the outhouse was a true family classic. That's almost as good as fixing everything with fire. Fire or explosives; no matter the problem, it's fixed. Dynamite and Pyrotol. Predesessor to duct tape.
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I have a buddy with a construction company and he's licensed for it. We're going to collapse a small cave that is a big leak in his pond some time this winter. Personally, I think he's going to blow the whole shebang completely to Hell and have to start over but he insists he's a professional. I was in favor of pumping concrete in the cave but he's got a thing for dynamite. I can't wait to see if it works. My great uncle used to blast out highway cuts. He was a complete nut. Came back from WWII that way after being left stranded in the Phillipines for a while. He used to do some incredible 4th of July displays. The time he blew up the outhouse was a true family classic. Date/Time/Location/Beer preference? |
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Quoted: I still remember reading a " How To" Article in one of my dads 1960's Field & Stream; How to build your own 1/4 acre duck pond using 50lbs of Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer, 2 quarts of No. 2 fuel oil, and a stick of dynamite. Pretty sure they won't be reprinting it.... I guess you could use black powder to do the same thing, but it would take a shitload of it, and the ATF might not be happy about it. Though, if you made your own, I don't see how it's any of their business as long as you aren't selling it or distributing it over state lines. |
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Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. http://www.dgihire.com/images/triple-p-truck-web.png Quoted:
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Meh. We shoot shots with more explosive energy than "Little Boy" about once a month. We shoot a few smaller ones every day. That demands elaboration. Shots with the equivalent of more than 750 tractor trailer loads of TNT? Really? Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. http://www.dgihire.com/images/triple-p-truck-web.png I wasn't debating the how - I assumed for any large-scale industrial blasting they don't have guys carrying containers of explosives by hand. It's just that 15+ kilotons? Wikipedia's page for 'Largest Conventional Explosions' has the N1 launch explosion at 7kt as the largest non-nuclear blast. Also, got video of this? Because I can't imagine anyone wouldn't want to see a boom of that magnitude. |
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I guess you could use black powder to do the same thing, but it would take a shitload of it, We tried blowing one dam with black powder (maybe it was pyrodex?) but we had to use a rifle to detonate it, so we couldn't set the charge where it was really needed. Anyway, it produced much smoke but little flying mud. I'd stick with AN/FO if I had to go homemade, but then again you're stuck with the problem of detonation. Dang, sometimes I miss being a kid. 
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I wasn't debating the how - I assumed for any large-scale industrial blasting they don't have guys carrying containers of explosives by hand. It's just that 15+ kilotons? Wikipedia's page for 'Largest Conventional Explosions' has the N1 launch explosion at 7kt as the largest non-nuclear blast. Also, got video of this? Because I can't imagine anyone wouldn't want to see a boom of that magnitude. Quoted:
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Meh. We shoot shots with more explosive energy than "Little Boy" about once a month. We shoot a few smaller ones every day. That demands elaboration. Shots with the equivalent of more than 750 tractor trailer loads of TNT? Really? Large mining operations fill blast holes from large tanker trucks. http://www.dgihire.com/images/triple-p-truck-web.png I wasn't debating the how - I assumed for any large-scale industrial blasting they don't have guys carrying containers of explosives by hand. It's just that 15+ kilotons? Wikipedia's page for 'Largest Conventional Explosions' has the N1 launch explosion at 7kt as the largest non-nuclear blast. Also, got video of this? Because I can't imagine anyone wouldn't want to see a boom of that magnitude. Not sure how big this is, but its more than enough for a tree stump.
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