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11/4/2013 6:42:21 AM EDT
Just in case you need storage - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/04/helium_drives_from_hgst/#!
11/4/2013 6:45:33 AM EDT
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Oooh, 6TB!  
11/4/2013 6:48:43 AM EDT
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Any word on price?
11/4/2013 6:56:29 AM EDT
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This may be a dumb question, but if you go to all that trouble to hermetically seal the platter enclosure, why not just pull a vacuum on it and have 0 air resistance?
11/4/2013 7:00:13 AM EDT
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Good question.


My off the cuff guess is that the drive is pressured to roughly 14 PSIA, and that it is more difficult to maintain a seal against vacuum than it is when the pressure differential is close to zero.
11/4/2013 7:05:35 AM EDT
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Good question.


My off the cuff guess is that the drive is pressured to roughly 14 PSIA, and that it is more difficult to maintain a seal against vacuum than it is when the pressure differential is close to zero.
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Good question.


My off the cuff guess is that the drive is pressured to roughly 14 PSIA, and that it is more difficult to maintain a seal against vacuum than it is when the pressure differential is close to zero.



It's pretty common to evacuate the chamber on free-standing laboratory centrifuges. Imagine if you had to have a two vacuum pump stages to run a hard drive-- a centrifugal pump followed by an oil-diffusion pump, both of which require power to run and make a bit of noise.

11/4/2013 7:07:46 AM EDT
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.
11/4/2013 7:08:39 AM EDT
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Like I need this on top of the 14 TBs of storage I have.

TXL
11/4/2013 7:09:43 AM EDT
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6TB... How much porn does any one man need?!
11/4/2013 7:11:15 AM EDT
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.
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The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
11/4/2013 7:12:22 AM EDT
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all of it

 
11/4/2013 7:48:56 AM EDT
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The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.


The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
Correct.  The heads have to FLY above the disk surface.

 


11/4/2013 7:56:12 AM EDT
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I would guess not cheap which is a shame becuase I will be in the market for some new drives next year, my 2 3tb drives are almost full.
11/4/2013 7:57:06 AM EDT
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Correct.  The heads have to FLY above the disk surface.  

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This may be a dumb question, but if you go to all that trouble to hermetically seal the platter enclosure, why not just pull a vacuum on it and have 0 air resistance?


Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.

The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
Correct.  The heads have to FLY above the disk surface.  



This too.
11/4/2013 8:02:14 AM EDT
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This may be a dumb question, but if you go to all that trouble to hermetically seal the platter enclosure, why not just pull a vacuum on it and have 0 air resistance?


Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.

The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
Correct.  The heads have to FLY above the disk surface.  



This too.


Correct. Heads have a "air bearing" surface to create lift over disk
11/4/2013 8:04:27 AM EDT
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What's the point of hard drives for the Everyman when porn is streamin now
11/4/2013 8:07:05 AM EDT
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What happens when the internet goes down?



No internet, no cloud, no porn.
11/4/2013 8:08:56 AM EDT
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There isn't a seal to hold a perfect vacuum much like there isn't a seal to hold in Helium forever. It's a marketing gimmick. I wonder how long those seals hold before good ol' nitrogen seeps in to replace the helium lost.

I love how the article states "of course it weighs less"

Perhaps it does, but that is in the material used. Though they have 2 more platters so I wonder how that works on the weight savings.
11/4/2013 8:12:12 AM EDT
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I would guess not cheap which is a shame becuase I will be in the market for some new drives next year, my 2 3tb drives are almost full.
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I would guess not cheap which is a shame becuase I will be in the market for some new drives next year, my 2 3tb drives are almost full.


Stick with your 2-3TB drives until the new wizzbang technology becomes stable.  I've seen this time and again with first 2tb drives and then 3tb drives, people losing their stuff.
11/4/2013 8:12:36 AM EDT
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No internet, no cloud, no porn.
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What happens when the internet goes down?

No internet, no cloud, no porn.


SHTF stash of hustlers and kinky German porn.
11/4/2013 8:16:19 AM EDT
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side note:  I got the first 1 GB drive here at my company because I was working with a lot of "large" files related to a SCADA system I developed.  It cost around a thousand dollars and came in a special wooden crate mounted to special shock absorbers and surrounded by foam.  Now, I have some files that are over 8GB.  
 



ETA: My phone has 48GB. lol.
11/4/2013 8:21:31 AM EDT
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.


This. Nothing to transfer the energy.
11/4/2013 8:24:03 AM EDT
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Correct. Heads have a "air bearing" surface to create lift over disk
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Heat. Vacuums act as insulation and would cause the components to overheat.

The hard drive heads float on a cushion of air created by the rotating platter.  Take away the air and the heads become a grinder.
Correct.  The heads have to FLY above the disk surface.  



This too.


Correct. Heads have a "air bearing" surface to create lift over disk


Learn something every day.
Thanks for the explanations.
11/4/2013 8:25:01 AM EDT
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Like I need this on top of the 14 TBs of storage I have.

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You need an even 20. More space for the chick in your avatar!!!!!!!!
11/4/2013 9:12:50 AM EDT
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side note:  I got the first 1 GB drive here at my company because I was working with a lot of "large" files related to a SCADA system I developed.  It cost around a thousand dollars and came in a special wooden crate mounted to special shock absorbers and surrounded by foam.  Now, I have some files that are over 8GB.    

ETA: My phone has 48GB. lol.
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I believe you ordered a new state-of-the-art hard disk drive?



11/4/2013 9:33:04 AM EDT
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Google says ...



No.



Might be shipping, but only to channel partners and distributors. Who, will then add their 5-10% to cost and get back to us on that whole "price" thing...



In a couple years, you'll be buying them off TigerDirect for about $200 each.