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10/30/2013 8:39:34 AM EDT














The left gear didn't come down, which sent it off the runway.  However, at least it flys!

More drop tests at higher altitudes to come.
10/30/2013 8:49:52 AM EDT
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Love the fuzzy dice
10/30/2013 8:56:04 AM EDT
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Glad  it didn't land like the lifting body at the beginning of the  '6 million dollar man' !
10/30/2013 8:57:37 AM EDT
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a nananananaaa
10/30/2013 8:58:04 AM EDT
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That's the legacy of the Dream Chaser design
10/30/2013 9:02:19 AM EDT
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Vid cuts off before the actual landing. That sux.
10/30/2013 9:20:39 AM EDT
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I came to post this after watching
10/30/2013 9:24:01 AM EDT
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I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror!
10/30/2013 10:41:56 AM EDT
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They didn't want to show the footage of it skidding off the runway

I hope the airframe is still useable.  The whole fuselage is made from carbon fiber.
10/30/2013 1:09:35 PM EDT
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The left gear didn't come down, which sent it off the runway.  However, at least it flys!

More drop tests at higher altitudes to come.
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10/30/2013 1:12:33 PM EDT
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Umm.   Not that impressive.      Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?       They dropped the damn thing from a skycrane.
SpaceX is doing all kinds of neat shit, even resupplying the ISS.
10/30/2013 1:13:43 PM EDT
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Because it crashes...
10/30/2013 1:17:22 PM EDT
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

but they have all the important data and it sounds like they'll just move to the next phase (which also uses different landing gear)
10/30/2013 1:18:09 PM EDT
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

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When do they start testing thrusters?   That will be interesting.
10/30/2013 1:21:19 PM EDT
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

but they have all the important data and it sounds like they'll just move to the next phase (which also uses different landing gear)

When do they start testing thrusters?   That will be interesting.

that would be cool but it looks, according to the wiki, that the system is intended for use in vacuum.
10/30/2013 1:27:19 PM EDT
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Umm.   Not that impressive.      Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?       They dropped the damn thing from a skycrane.
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They will be doing more high altitude drop tests with this vehicle in the future.  This was just the first one, and I imagine the goal was to ensure the landing would work out.
10/30/2013 1:27:59 PM EDT
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Isn't there a "BLOW DOWN" system in some landing gear mechanisms?
Like a CO2 cylinder?........in case the mechanical-hydraulic system fails?
10/30/2013 1:32:30 PM EDT
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that would be cool but it looks, according to the wiki, that the system is intended for use in vacuum.
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

but they have all the important data and it sounds like they'll just move to the next phase (which also uses different landing gear)

When do they start testing thrusters?   That will be interesting.

that would be cool but it looks, according to the wiki, that the system is intended for use in vacuum.


So thrusters don't work in space?  

10/30/2013 1:45:00 PM EDT
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Umm.   Not that impressive.      Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?       They dropped the damn thing from a skycrane.
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I'm not quite understanding your question. Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?

If you fly fast enough, even thin air provides enough lift and the entire craft is a lifting body design. The automated systems will provide the ideal balance between lift and velocity
10/30/2013 1:49:26 PM EDT
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I'm not quite understanding your question. Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?

If you fly fast enough, even thin air provides enough lift and the entire craft is a lifting body design. The automated systems will provide the ideal balance between lift and velocity
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Umm.   Not that impressive.      Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?       They dropped the damn thing from a skycrane.
SpaceX is doing all kinds of neat shit, even resupplying the ISS.


I'm not quite understanding your question. Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?

If you fly fast enough, even thin air provides enough lift and the entire craft is a lifting body design. The automated systems will provide the ideal balance between lift and velocity


I thought spacecraft could tumble in thin a atmosphere, and needed complex thruster control programs to keep them stabilized, and at the right angle of attack to keep the heat on the tiles.
10/30/2013 3:22:01 PM EDT
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

but they have all the important data and it sounds like they'll just move to the next phase (which also uses different landing gear)

When do they start testing thrusters?   That will be interesting.

that would be cool but it looks, according to the wiki, that the system is intended for use in vacuum.


So thrusters don't work in space?  

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T9HQWKrWFys/Ul07LzRYroI/AAAAAAAAQxs/y9YiAy7vA2k/s1600/Walking+in+Space+(7).jpg

Space is a vacuum
10/30/2013 3:25:07 PM EDT
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I thought spacecraft could tumble in thin a atmosphere, and needed complex thruster control programs to keep them stabilized, and at the right angle of attack to keep the heat on the tiles.
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Umm.   Not that impressive.      Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?       They dropped the damn thing from a skycrane.
SpaceX is doing all kinds of neat shit, even resupplying the ISS.


I'm not quite understanding your question. Neat, but how will it do in very thin atmospheres?     Reentry?

If you fly fast enough, even thin air provides enough lift and the entire craft is a lifting body design. The automated systems will provide the ideal balance between lift and velocity


I thought spacecraft could tumble in thin a atmosphere, and needed complex thruster control programs to keep them stabilized, and at the right angle of attack to keep the heat on the tiles.

RCS sets the right attitude/angle of attack and as you get down Hypersonic speeds gives reasonable control
10/30/2013 4:11:05 PM EDT
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such an innocuous thing to go wrong.

but they have all the important data and it sounds like they'll just move to the next phase (which also uses different landing gear)

When do they start testing thrusters?   That will be interesting.

that would be cool but it looks, according to the wiki, that the system is intended for use in vacuum.


So thrusters don't work in space?  

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T9HQWKrWFys/Ul07LzRYroI/AAAAAAAAQxs/y9YiAy7vA2k/s1600/Walking+in+Space+(7).jpg

Space is a vacuum

Yes, more or less.
10/30/2013 4:55:51 PM EDT
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Well, the thing is ...... the atmosphere is usually pretty thick near the ground where you need to land.  

BTW, every manned vehicle goes through a drop test like this.  The Apollo CM did.  The Shuttle did.  And the SpaceX Dragon capsule did.  You have to start somewhere.

Yes, SpaceX is much further along.  But no need to diminish this accomplishment.

In the end, it will all be about cost.  As cool as this lifting body craft is, I suspect SpaceX will have them beat there.