Posted: 10/30/2013 2:47:00 AM EDT
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Million-dollar treasure found in abandoned safe.
What may be a million dollars worth or more of uncirculated South African gold coins were discovered in an old safe that was meant for scrap metal, and now the question is, legally, to whom do these valuable coins belong? A locksmith at Robbie's Key & Lock in West Houston told Local 2 it took weeks to get that safe open and when he finally did, inside were cases and tubes of gold coins, small silver bars and jewelry. The locksmith secured the safe and called police. Members of HPD's precious metal unit responded and took temporary custody of the contents. A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. He brought it to Robbie's to see if there was anything inside. The executor of the estate found out about the discovery and staked her claim on the valuable coins. Attorney Mike DeGuerin was called to broker a deal and tells Local 2 the coins have been returned to the executor of the estate. |
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Finders keepers in my book….safe was given away fair and square. Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Notso Needs to learn to read better. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers!
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Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers! ![]() Quoted:
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Finders keepers in my book….safe was given away fair and square. Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers! ![]() Read the article. The executor told a third party to clean out a garage and dispose, as they saw fit, with the contents. That third party took the safe to a locksmith. Under the "fair's fair" moral code (and I'm pretty sure most civil law), the contents of that safe belong to the guy who was given the contents of the cleaning job as payment for doing it. ETA: The only troubling thing about the whole story is the locksmith calling the cops. Unless he did so at the behest of the customer, that's shitty professionalism. |
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Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers! ![]() Quoted:
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Finders keepers in my book….safe was given away fair and square. Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers! ![]() RIF
From the OP: "A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. He brought it to Robbie's to see if there was anything inside." Therefore whatever is inside belongs to this man not to the executor and not to the locksmith. ETA beat by < 1 min I type too slow |
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From the OP: "A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. He brought it to Robbie's to see if there was anything inside." Therefore whatever is inside belongs to this man not to the executor and not to the locksmith. ETA beat by < 1 min I type too slow Quoted:
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The locksmith secured the safe and called police. ![]() ![]() ![]()
Finders keepers in my book….safe was given away fair and square. Yes, but the safe was given to the Executor, who hired the locksmith to see what was in it. They belong to the executor. Otherwise the pop a lock guys could say that since they found your keys in your car, Finders Keepers! ![]() RIF
From the OP: "A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. He brought it to Robbie's to see if there was anything inside." Therefore whatever is inside belongs to this man not to the executor and not to the locksmith. ETA beat by < 1 min I type too slow yeah..>RIF. A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. contents should go to the guy who was aksed to do the cleanout…thats what I meant, but did not say very well |
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Quoted: Million-dollar treasure found in abandoned safe. What may be a million dollars worth or more of uncirculated South African gold coins were discovered in an old safe that was meant for scrap metal, and now the question is, legally, to whom do these valuable coins belong? A locksmith at Robbie's Key & Lock in West Houston told Local 2 it took weeks to get that safe open and when he finally did, inside were cases and tubes of gold coins, small silver bars and jewelry. The locksmith secured the safe and called police. Members of HPD's precious metal unit responded and took temporary custody of the contents. .... Never talk to the police. |
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Million-dollar treasure found in abandoned safe. What may be a million dollars worth or more of uncirculated South African gold coins were discovered in an old safe that was meant for scrap metal, and now the question is, legally, to whom do these valuable coins belong? A locksmith at Robbie's Key & Lock in West Houston told Local 2 it took weeks to get that safe open and when he finally did, inside were cases and tubes of gold coins, small silver bars and jewelry. The locksmith secured the safe and called police. Members of HPD's precious metal unit responded and took temporary custody of the contents. A man recently acquired the safe from an estate executor who asked him to clean out the garage of the deceased. He was asked to remove the safe from the garage and dispose of it however he wanted. He brought it to Robbie's to see if there was anything inside. The executor of the estate found out about the discovery and staked her claim on the valuable coins. Attorney Mike DeGuerin was called to broker a deal and tells Local 2 the coins have been returned to the executor of the estate. WTF they cannot handle rape kits and they have a precious metal unit. DeGuerin took his cut I am sure. If I would have opened it up I would never called the cops. I would have called the customer and said I got it open. Come by when you get a chance. I have a feeling this guy was not told to take the safe and that no one knew of the safe because it was covered with all kinds of other crap. when he got to the safe he says to himself he told me to get rid of it all and smiled. |
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Why the F did the locksmith call the police ? I mean I dont know why the guy went to a locksmith in the first place unless he wanted it open in such a way as to be usable agian. If it were me and I had just opened the thing I would have called the guy who hired me and asked him to come down and see what was in the safe and make a decision. Now everybody who last week couldnt give a damm are involved, the state govt who will find back taxes owed on the deceased's property the IRS will show up outta nowhere etc. Money attracts flies just like shit does. |
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"Members of HPD's precious metal unit" HPD isn't exactly the Mayberry Police ... They service the 4th largest city in the nation. They probably have lots of departments small cities have no use for. Of course, they probably have lots of departments even *they* have no use for. |
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HPD isn't exactly the Mayberry Police ... They service the 4th largest city in the nation. They probably have lots of departments small cities have no use for. Of course, they probably have lots of departments even *they* have no use for. Quoted:
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"Members of HPD's precious metal unit" HPD isn't exactly the Mayberry Police ... They service the 4th largest city in the nation. They probably have lots of departments small cities have no use for. Of course, they probably have lots of departments even *they* have no use for. When you have hundreds if not thousands of rape kits that you cannot handle and all kinds of investigations that get flubbed you would think that a precious metal unit would not be high priority. But when your priorities are looking to secure and confiscate cash and other unclaimed valuable you have one. example : guy comes with 10,00 pounds of clean stripped copper to a recycle cannot prove it is his cops take it no one claims it and even if they do copper is copper and there is no way to prove it is yours. It now belongs to the popo. |
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When you have hundreds if not thousands of rape kits that you cannot handle and all kinds of investigations that get flubbed you would think that a precious metal unit would not be high priority. But when your priorities are looking to secure and confiscate cash and other unclaimed valuable you have one. example : guy comes with 10,00 pounds of clean stripped copper to a recycle cannot prove it is his cops take it no one claims it and even if they do copper is copper and there is no way to prove it is yours. It now belongs to the popo. Quoted:
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"Members of HPD's precious metal unit" HPD isn't exactly the Mayberry Police ... They service the 4th largest city in the nation. They probably have lots of departments small cities have no use for. Of course, they probably have lots of departments even *they* have no use for. When you have hundreds if not thousands of rape kits that you cannot handle and all kinds of investigations that get flubbed you would think that a precious metal unit would not be high priority. But when your priorities are looking to secure and confiscate cash and other unclaimed valuable you have one. example : guy comes with 10,00 pounds of clean stripped copper to a recycle cannot prove it is his cops take it no one claims it and even if they do copper is copper and there is no way to prove it is yours. It now belongs to the popo. Your hypothetical example has nothing to do with the reality I referenced in my post. Also, the words you strung together don't make any sense, again. |
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Your hypothetical example has nothing to do with the reality I referenced in my post. Also, the words you strung together don't make any sense, again. Quoted:
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"Members of HPD's precious metal unit" HPD isn't exactly the Mayberry Police ... They service the 4th largest city in the nation. They probably have lots of departments small cities have no use for. Of course, they probably have lots of departments even *they* have no use for. When you have hundreds if not thousands of rape kits that you cannot handle and all kinds of investigations that get flubbed you would think that a precious metal unit would not be high priority. But when your priorities are looking to secure and confiscate cash and other unclaimed valuable you have one. example : guy comes with 10,00 pounds of clean stripped copper to a recycle cannot prove it is his cops take it no one claims it and even if they do copper is copper and there is no way to prove it is yours. It now belongs to the popo. Your hypothetical example has nothing to do with the reality I referenced in my post. Also, the words you strung together don't make any sense, again. So what we know from your post is you are either an english teacher or HPD.
We all know that the police put a lot of effort into cash confiscation. They have many k9 units who are used for drugs but infact their primary reason for use has to do with collecting money and it does not have to be drug money. Does this make sense teacher or officer? |
